WIP - Kreola - Norberto Idiart

#1

Hi All…
Maybe i’m a little bit late with this sketch, but here we go:

  • This sketch is just composition and values.
    I was trying to use both sides of the plate, but was stucked in a simetric composition. Then Brian came with that beautiful concept using just right side of the street and it was ok…
    This gave me much more freedom to create the valley i had in mind, and it’s represented in this sketch.

  • This is an homage to huge canyon we have near home and i wanted to set huge scale as well. It follows the river and makes a curve to the right in the far distance…
    This huge scale makes the portion of the plate maybe small… i don’t know if its ok, but i really wanted to show a big and vertical canyon.

  • I also want to play a lot with shadow an lit areas. A big canyon, with big shadow area and the river cutting it all, as if it was bleeding…

  • Outside the canyon, in the top, there is a desert. And the dunes ends in the very edge of the cliff.

  • Architecture: I didn’t define yet, especially the palace on the left. Now i’ve marked position with some city of pietra reference (Indiana Jones). But this is too greek/roman style and i don’t like it. But the idea is to put some religious or mystic palace there.
    It’s very important for my composition as i want it to guide the eyes from palace to the balcony in the other side.

Actually i think i will pick the mood of planet Tatooine, with houses sculped directly on the rock. The only materials this people from the canyon have to build are rock and iron/brass.
Many scaffold elevators, stairs, ropes, chains, but no bridges in this valley, as they didn’t have developed engineering to build it.

Well i’m looking forward for your thoughts and comments. I have no words to describe how good it is to follow the forum with the contest on. Such great artists (some of you idols i must say) giving such good feedback… it’s priceless ! And free, by the way. :beer:
Thank you all guys for spread the knowledge and share your keen eyes.

all the best,

Norberto

#2

Hey Richie !
In my ancestor’s language Norberto means:
“Big enormous gigantic almighty warrior, with superpowers and a big heart, which have the right to drink all the beer in the village and conquer all the girls as well”
It is also the word used for “little liar”, depending on the pronunciation.

hahaha

cheers mate ! And good luck !
Nice concept you have and as David said, i would love to see the close textures in the FG stair.

#3

Hi norberto. i think it will be better if you bring the plate closer to the camera. since they need to clearly see the actress mesmerizing the environment :slight_smile:

#4

Norberto, save me some beer,

Richie

#5

Nice brainstorm! Careful of that road that exits in the bottom left corner… it might be useful to try the pathway leaving the page somewhere else… not right at the corner like that. It creates a lot of compositional tension.
Maybe look up some photo reference of the type of environment you’re going for to help inform the negative/positive shapes of the composition?

#6

Thanks Ken… really apreciated

may i ask what do you suggest with the road ??
For me the bottom left corner is the most important part of my composition… it should really guide the eye to the balcony in the other side.

I’m colecting photo reference. Thanks again

#7

I saw you post this in the support thread Norberto, so I’ll post this here for you, as it’s a question you should be stating and getting answers from in your own thread:

“I know my plate is a little bit far from the camera now, but i’m painting in 7k which can provide enough resolution for a moving shot from the balcony to my final position… beside that this is a stablishing shot…
well, anyway, i’m still waiting for a feedback”

Keep in mind, this is for a still style frame, no camera move necessary. Painting it at 7k maybe too much for this challenge, and also you should worry about just getting a good concept and composition first before tackling that large of a technical challenge. The comment that Ken made about the road is that it’s too much in the diagonal bottom left, create a curve higher up on the frame, or more to the right, but not directly in the diagonal

You should also post some reference or inspiration, as that will help you, and us when we give you feedback.

#8

Be careful not to drift too far from the plate
:shrug:
Have you tried punching in and having the framing be closer?

#9

Hello Norberto,
I hope you are well and your WIP is coming along fine.
Remember that the best motivation for people to give you feedback is to leave some comments on their work and thereby creating a give and take forum environment.
It looks like you have a lot of great advice here already.
Looking forward to seeing the next stage of your image.
Keep it up.
Milan

#10

Hey Milan !
Thanks a lot for asking.
I’m good, thanks. Just that i have tons of work to do now… And this is good as well.
this will be delivered next week, so there will be more free time in my horizon.

I would like to thank Brian, David, Seema and Ken, who gave me very valuable feedback. And also apologize for posting an individual question outside my thread.

Well, about my wip: I put the plate close to the camera and got rid of that road on the right side.
Now I am refining my left side cliff and hope I can post my progress soon.

Thanks,

#11

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