Sketchbook Thread of Spirit Dreamer

#4521

NOV. 08, 2011
Did alot of work and sculpting on these two boxers to get more of a likeness of Mohammad Ali and Joe Frazier…This is the second fight they had…where Mohammad Ali won when the fight was called off by the ref because Joe Frazier wasn’t looking too good… both eyes closed up and his forhead was swelled up pretty good…Good call by the ref.
Next i’m going to do their first fight…where Joe Frazier came on strong as Smokin Joe was known to do and nailed Mohammad Ali with a massive left hook that sent Mohammad Ali falling to the canvas …losing him that fight…This will be in honor of Joe Frazier who just passed away yesterday…R.I.P. Joe Frazier…Gone, but Not Forgotten
Glenn

ZBRUSH 4R2…DynaMesh…LightCap

#4522

Hi Glenn :slight_smile:

It’s been a while since I visited and it’s great to see you still powering along with inspiration and dedication here :wavey: I was driving home from work only yesterday and heard about Joe Frazier… you’re certainly picking subjects in the moment (even though you’re working on a past event). Your 3D work is really going places Glenn - to me this piece is starting to look like a slow motion shot: complete with ‘sound effects’ et all :slight_smile: Nicholas Dunlop, a film artist from Australia - and the Australian Dance Company, created a movie using ultra-slow-motion camera where short clips show people interacting through dance, boxing, argument and other drama - these were then shown on large billboards across the world… You might want to check this out (as it may clear up my ramblings :wink: ) Link to snippet on Collision Course

I currently feel like the girl who left home without her keys… my thread has been archived :cry: so I’m not sure whether I should be start a new one or live in hope that my email to the people upstairs will open my door again. Regardless it’s good to be popping back again and seeing what my friends are up to :slight_smile:

Hope all is going really well your end
cheers
a :slight_smile:

#4523

Nov. 09, 2011
Hey There Annette…:wavey: Great hearning from you…I do hope that the gods favor opening back up your sketchbook in here…would be a shame if it gets lost and just collects dust in limbo somewhere…But if they don’t reopen it,…you can always start a new one right…
Ether way, I am looking forward to seeing what kind of new stuff you are up to while on this journy that we all share…and Hey…Thanks for the link to that work that you mentioned…I will check it out shorttly …for sure…sounds interesting…:slight_smile:
Anyway Annette…I’m doing fine, and all is well in my neck of the woods…Hope it is the same for you and yours, over in your neck of the woods also…Hope to see what you’ve been up to lately…soon…
As Always Annette…Take Care…:thumbsup: :slight_smile:
Glenn

Funny how things happen sometimes…I didn’t have any particular fight in mind when I started this experiment about a month ago or so…Just found out that Joe Frazier was sick and getting ready to pass on the 6th of Nov…and here I am working on this historic sequence of fights between Mohammad Ali and Joe Frazier for the last couple of weeks…Life is Strange at Times,…Makes me wonder sometimes…Am I just a Pawn in some Strange Game…

Anyway,…Started on the fight this morning between Mohammad Ali and Joe Frazier…The first fight between them …The one where Joe Frazier knocks Mohammad Ali to the canvas with that massive and deadly powerful left hook of his.
Just some quick simple gestures this morning while trying to figure out how best to visually describe this historic knock down that left Joe Frazier holding on to his Title.

ZBRUSH 4R2…DynaMesh…LightCap

#4524

NOV. 10, 2011

Hey Annette.:wavey: …I just checked that link out this morning that you sent me yesterday…Great stuff…Action and Motion is what I am into at the moment, so that link is right in line with my present studies.
Just wanted to Thank You Again.:slight_smile: …Thanks…:thumbsup:

Take Care Annette…:thumbsup:
Glenn

#4525

Hi Glenn :slight_smile:

Oh great that you liked it - seeing your latest work made me think of this film. I watched the ‘making of’ documentary a while back; the concept and the imagery is fascinating. It’s almost surreal the way the motion of colliding bodies creates a whole world of its own (which we don’t see at normal speed) :slight_smile:

Glad to hear you’re well - I look forward to seeing where your tribute artwork will take you! :arteest:

cheers and take care
a :slight_smile:

#4526

NOV. 12, 2011

Hi. Annette…:slight_smile: Yep,…That slow motion deffenitly creates a surreal feeling to the action taking place…Kind of like what Salvadore Dali had in mind with his Persistence of Memory painting and those Soft Watches of his and the distortin of Time that they describe and depict…:slight_smile:

Some more work done on the gesture of Joe Frazier as he lands that powerful left hook of his, and sends Mohammad Ali flying down to the canvas in their first title fight…I will work more on the gesture of Mohammad Ali next…Once the gestures are there, I will refine the sculpts, get their emotions in place for the action taking place, and make them look like who they are, and what they were going through.
ZBRUSH 4R2…DynaMesh…LightCap
Glenn

#4527

NOV. 14, 2011
WIP. Did alot of work and sculpting this morning on these two boxers…Went over the entire figure of Joe Frazier…Beefed him up quite a bit and started working on his face and head…still a lot to do on him yet…Also started working on the face and head of Mohammad Ali catching that powerful left hooh of Joe Frazier…Trying to get some emotion going on in thier faces before I go for the total likeness that makes them… them.
ZBRUSH 4R2…DynaMesh…LightCap
Glenn

#4528

NOV. 15, 2011WIP…Lots of work done, and sculpting on this Joe Frazier / Mohammad Ali title boxing scene this morning.Thier first fight…Extended out the right leg of Mohammad Ali, and resculpted it,…went over his whole figure,beefed him up quite a bit, and corected a bunch of stuff on him,… basically resculpted his entire figure,… and also put some color in their trunks and shoes.ZBRUSH 4R2…DynaMESH…LightCap

Glenn

#4529

NOV. 16, 2011
WIP…More work done on the First Joe Frazier / Mohammad Ali Title Fight of the Century in Madison Square Garden N.Y.
The Ring /Rendering / Lighting / Material /Composition ect.
ZBRUSH 4R2…DynaMesh…LightCap
Glenn

#4530

NOV. 17, 2011

Wrapping these fight scenes up for now…I got what I was after in each fight…the essence of the fight.
The first fight where Joe Frazier pounds Mohammad Ali over and over again with that powerful left hook of his, finally knocking him down at the end of the fight, and keeping his title.
The third and last fight between these two, where Mohammad Ali wins the fight after Joe Frazier’s corner man calls it off after the forteenth round due to the closed eyes and extreme swelling of the forhead of Joe Frazier.
Both fighters took an extreme beating in this last fight between them…Mohammad Ali later said that it was the closest thing to death that he had ever experienced.
Anyway,…I learned alot while doing this set of fight sequences, and that’s what counts the most…Now it’s time to learn some more about all of these new and Great features in ZBRUSH…Lots of experimenting and exploring ahead…

ZBRUSH 4R2…DynaMesh…LightCap

#4531

Hi Glenn :slight_smile:

I like the added colour to their shorts - really sets off the scene :slight_smile: You have definitely captured two struggling men in action; the pain is there and the immovable mountain of the opponent is there, and somewhere in the middle of it all is a sense of gentlemanliness (if that’s a word :smiley: ),
I think you have come a long way in creating a tribute to both boxers.

cheers and take care
a. :slight_smile:

#4532

NOV. 17, 2011

Hey Thank you Annette…Really appreciate your support…and kind words…:slight_smile:
Funny how different this forum is, and the people within it,… than the forum at ZBRUSH Cental is, which is where I have another sketchbook going on…I’ve about had it with that forum, The only reason I opened a sketcbook up over there, was to get some help in learning ZBRUSH, from the people who know it best,…but the only thing that i’ve gotten so far from them, is a hard time, alot of insults and grief, with the exception of a very few, who stand up to the Cleque and very Juvenile mentality that rules over there in that forum…It’s a pity, but it’s also very true none the less…Anyway, at least there is this forum where there is a better class of artist, and people involved in the learning process…and i’m very thankful for that…:slight_smile:
Take Care Annette, and Thanks for just being You…:thumbsup:
Glenn

Just posting in here, what I posted over in my sketchbook at ZBRUSH Central this morning after they took my posted images off of their forum…It will probably get censored, and get me demerits or something even more stupid, but who the hell really cares…Not Me…That much I am certain of…:smiley:

Posted below is…My Opinion and Rating of the ZBRUSH Cental WIP. and Sketchbook forum.

NOV. 17, 2011
Can’t say that I understand this forum, or appreciate my post being taken off of the bottom row, but such is the way in here, and I will live with it…Just doesn’t say much for the forum,…That’s just my personal opinion though, for whatever it’s worth.

At least I know that there is a forum with some truth in it, a place where juvenile taste is not accepted as the norm,…and a place where my work is still appreciated, and welcomed…A place where pettyness and nitpicking bullsh…t and censorship doesn’t happen on a daily basis…Thank God for CG TALK, is all I have to say.
ZBRUSH is a wonderful software, …It’s just a shame that it has a narrow minded clique running the show in this forum.
Now go ahead and censor this, and show your true colors one more time.

A statment in my CG Talk Sketchbook this morning below from a CG Talk artist and member

Hi Glenn

I like the added colour to their shorts - really sets off the scene. You have definitely captured two struggling men in action; the pain is there and the immovable mountain of the opponent is there, and somewhere in the middle of it all is a sense of gentlemanliness (if that’s a word ),
I think you have come a long way in creating a tribute to both boxers.

cheers and take care
a.

#4533

NOV. 18, 2011

I thought I was done with these boxing scenes…I guess I was wrong…LOL…Going to turn them into paintings…Not satisfied with the stiff look that I get with ZBRUSH…They always end up looking like painted sculptures to me, which is not what i’m after…I want them to look like paintings in the end…so that’s what i’m going to go for with these boxing scenes that i’ve been working on lately…I have to have something that I can relate to when I paint, and these scenes are it…:slight_smile:
Glenn

ZBRUSH / Corel Painter Combo

#4534

Hi Glenn :slight_smile:

I do like the painted version - fresh eyes can make all the difference (even when they are your own :slight_smile: ). I thought your comment was interesting about ZBRUSH looking like painted sculptures… Years ago I used to work in clay, but in the end I realised that my main goal with the medium all along, had been to create a canvas to paint on… :curious: It sort of woke me up in terms of where I wanted to be - and I found it so liberating to go back to painting and drawing, mainly because I no longer had to push a medium to be something it wasn’t ever truly going to be… :slight_smile:

This may not be how you approach ZBRUSH at all, and you have taken this software to heart - learning and experimenting and creating your own style. I just thought the comment was interesting :slight_smile:

Also - I read your comments about the ZBRUSH central forum… It truly is one of the most scary and exposing things: to put your work on display for people to crit or praise as they see fit. But it is also one of the most rewarding things (artists must like living on the edge :arteest: ), as feedback can lead to new insight and learning and communication with like-minded people. :slight_smile: Personally I feel that any critique should be given constructively and with consideration of the person you are critiquing - I cannot see the point in telling someone that their work is crap - ever. When I was teaching I had students with very different skill levels, and to me it felt important to tailor critique to each individual student, rather than adopting a blanket approach for all…

So where am I going with this rambling…? :banghead: Basically, I think it is important to focus on constructive feedback and ignore flippant comments… :thumbsup:

cheers and take care
a. :slight_smile:

#4535

NOV, 19, 2011

Hi Annette…:slight_smile: Yep, sometimes I get lost between painting and sculpture…easy to do when working with ZBRUSH…But I always find my way back home to painting, which is where my heart llies, and always will…Just using the 3d aspect of ZBRUSH to spin the figures around so I can creat different compositions with and from them…Compositions to be turned into paintings, least I forget, which happens often…Need to corect that fault line in my journy… someday…:scream:
About the crits…I love and learn from good ones, but I hate cheap shots from people who don’t know what they are talking about…and i’ve lived long enough and created enough art in my life to know the difference between the two…No good can come from it when you argue with a fool…That is the biggest and toughest lesson that i’ve learned while trying to learn over in ZBRUSH Central…As is said…Live and Learn…both from mistakes, and from accomplishments:)
Take Care Annette, and thanks also for stopping by, and sounding your opinion…which I highly value…:thumbsup:
Glenn

One more scene worked on this morning.
ZBRUSH / Corel Painter

#4536

NOV. 20, 2011

Been studying the boxing paintings of George Bellows…His darker versions seem much more powerful and dynamic than his lighter scenes where everything in the scene is depicted clearly, so I thought I would try my hand at a darker version of this scene of mine this morning…I am going to expand the canvas to include the onlookers at some point on these scenes of mine…I just want to get the main stage and focal point set in place properly first.:slight_smile:

Link to the fight scenes of George Bellows posted below

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oG7h5K5chOYnQArsBXNyoA?p=george%20bellows%20boxing%20paintings&fr2=piv-web

Mohammad Ali / Joe Frazier…Third and final rematch and title fight.

ZBRUSH / Corel Painter

#4537

NOV. 21, 2011

Converting another one of these ZBRUSH sculpture versions that I did earlier into a painting this morning.

ZBRUSH / Corel Painter

#4538

NOV. 22, 2011

Another ZBRUSH sculpture version turned into a painting this morning.
ZBRUSH / Corel Painter
Glenn

#4539

NOV. 23, 2011

One more ZBRUSH sculpture version converted into a painting this morning.
Glenn

ZBRUSH / Corel Painter

#4540

NOV. 24, 2011

One more ZBRUSH sculpture to painting conversion this morning.
Glenn

ZBRUSH / Corel Painter