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Sketchbook Thread of Erich Schreiner
Rebeccak
#142
Erich,
You’re welcome! It’s great to see your continued motivation ~ that’s an inspiration for all. 
It seems that the first 3 drawings and the last drawing are some of your best copies so far ~ it really seems you are concentrating harder here, and really seeing more in~depth in terms of the figure.
As you’re seeing, the more you do of these, the more you will discover in the figure ~ it’s kind of cool that way, that it’s sort of an unending process of learning and coming back to what you thought you knew with new information.
Great to see these, looking forward to seeing the final push!
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
ErichSchreiner
#143
thx.
It seems that the first 3 drawings and the last drawing are some of your best copies so far ~ it really seems you are concentrating harder here, and really seeing more in~depth in terms of the figure.
i had a different mine in my pencil with these. it’s a 2B too, but acts different than the mine from the other company…which doesn’t mean that i’m not concentrating
i have the problem now, that i’m running out of good drawing references (i ordered some books as mentionned above, but i again have to import them…). lucky me i have a book about Michelangelo, so tomorrow there will be a lot of him.
btw i messed up the kneeling man of Rubens, he’s too slim…
Amerasu
#144
Wow! This is a totally inspiring and motivating thread! You’re so productive and I can really see an improvement from the beginning of the thread to now. And your initial work was nice and solid anyway. All of the master copies are really serving you well.
I like your characters / concept art too. You have so much of it!
Fantastic work and I look forward to watching your thread in the future
ErichSchreiner
#145
@Amerasu
thx a lot. your words are really motivating, and i’ll do my best to keep the work up.
it’s really getting hard to find good drawings that i didn’t copy yet (the book didn’t turn out as good as i thought). The last two in this series look very strange, but their refs looked strange as well
Rebeccak
#147
Erich,
Nice update. What was it that you didn’t like about the book? Just curious.
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
ErichSchreiner
#148
thx Rebecca.
most of the drawings are to small, so you really can’t copy them well…seems that i have to wait for the amazon books, to get new material
i also ordered one about Rembrandt: The Painter at work. was not cheap, but i read that the author talks a lot about Rembrandt’s technique.
done…i did 100 master copies in about two weeks now. i think that’s a good basis to move on. i’ll do now one every day or every two days, to slowly move up to 250…
Slux
#149
Hi
Rebbeca have just pointed me to your thread
heh really nice drawings, especially these master studies looks mighty fine
hmm I will have to do some too
Anyway keep going I will have to check you thread from time to time heh 
-Slux
ErichSchreiner
#151
thx
thx a lot. the two weeks were really very strenuos, but who cares
first color exercises. i’m trying to assimilate some puddnhead techniques and mix them up with my own way of doing things. first one was messed up, second and third are not too bad, i think
Rebeccak
#153
These are looking mighty good, Erich! The next thing you might considering tackling is doing copies (drawings / paintings) of figurative sculpture. 
These would be more condusive to intensive shading copies, I would think.
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
ErichSchreiner
#154
@rebecca
thx
The next thing you might considering tackling is doing copies (drawings / paintings) of figurative sculpture
could you give an example please ?
Rebeccak
#155
ErichSchreiner
#156
still can’t imagine what’s in this book to be copied. color paintings of Michelangelo or b/W pictures or sculptures?
i thought it might be a good idea to try to color some of the drawings i already made, cause you clearly can see that there are some difficulties for me working with color
Rebeccak
#157
Erich,
LOL, no worries ~ I think it is a good idea to continue on with your color studies…just a suggestion for the future. 
The book contains drawings and sculptures ~ sculptures, mainly, really nice b/w images, many closeups, views, etc. of his greatest pieces. Have done many copies from this book ~ an excellent resource.
I like your idea of coloring your drawings, though ~ looking forward to more of those.
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
SpiritDreamer
#158
Hi…Erich…
REALLY like your master copies …
Also like the way your experimenting with colors on, or with them.
I think the link below, might be of some help to you in your experiments.
Study the way he uses color on or in his figures,…each one is different,
and picks up the colors of it’s surroundings.
Keep studying the masters, it’s a great way, and the best way to learn…
Take Care
Glenn
Boris Vellejo :bounce:
ErichSchreiner
#160
thx Glenn. it’s funny that you posted this link, cause i have Vallejos & Bells workshop book here around me all the time, for figuring out like they do it. unfortunately the text is not too precise (we paint the figures with the colors of the background etc.) but it’s interesting anyway.
Seegmiller wrote, that he makes the highlights (hint of, very subtle) of his figures with the colors of the background.
so my actual understanding (hope it’s right ) is the following: the background colors should be very subtle, they occur in the reflected light areas (shadow side and, light side shortly before the form turns to its outer rim) and around the highlights ( but i think that depends on the light source; strong sunlight will make it more yellowish etc)
hope that makes sense
