Sketchbook Thread of Erich Schreiner

#201

Hi …Erich…:wink:

I like those female studies your doing, …each one is getting better…more relaxed looking…:applause:
You might want to check out a links I just posted in FAVORITE FIGURATIVE ARTISTS in this
forum…their on page # 2 frame #23 …both of those links are great, and might help you out
some how …maybe…
You might post one of your favorite figurative artists while your there…start of a good
library there…needing more links though…:wink:
Keep up the GREAT work on your thread…I’M really enjoying SEEING it develope…:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

#202

Erich,

I think that these drawings are good practice, but I think it’s less important to try to do ‘finished’ drawing of figures in your case than it is to really dig in and explore structure.

There is definitely a difference between drawing for the sake of doing a ‘nice drawing’ and drawing for the sake of Analysis. I would really emphasize to anyone who is in the process of learning to improve their drawings that Analysis is more important than trying to do a finished work.

Also be careful of the Reference from which you draw. I see people drawing from rather non~artistic sources ~ such as the photographs of women from the web, which to my mind are more about the showcasing of attractive women than they are about art ~ and this focus in the Reference photos is reflected in the resulting images drawn or painted from them. Not to say that it’s bad to draw from these kinds of photos ~ it’s just to say that I think it’s not the best. Hong’s site has better photos, I think, or sites like:

http://www.3d.sk/

are more artistic in focus.

I don’t remember if you do or do not have Burne Hogarth’s books (Dynamic Figure Drawing, Dynamic Anatomy, etc.) but I would recommend them to anyone ~ it’s not to say that I think people should draw like him ~ I don’t ~ but he breaks form down in such a clear way that it’s a great source from which to learn how to achieve structure and dimensionality in your form.

If you’ve not already done so, check out the following thread:

Anatomy Thread of Thomasphoenix
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=296477

Siju / Thomasphoenix is a great draughtsman who has really followed Hogarth and incorporated it into his own style.

EDIT:

I would also recommend to anyone participating in our Open Figure Drawing Workshops, all of which are listed here:

Open Figure Drawing Workshops with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel

I think it’s a really great way to improve your work in a group setting, with lots of encouragement and feedback. :thumbsup:

Hope this helps. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#203

@Glenn

thx, i’ll check out your thread :slight_smile:

@Rebecca

those drawings are in no way finished. i just wanted to get some feeling for the female form, cause the mastercopies are more for the male form, i think :slight_smile:

The photos were in either a thread of CGTalk concerning figurative resources or in a thread on conceptart, don’t remember.
thx

i spent some time today trying some of painters mediums, cause i need to find a more expressive way of doing my artworks.

palette knife

acrylics, was harder to use than oil or gouache

Oil

Gouache

Charcoal

Guess i will choose oil or gouache

#204

My first OFDW, brrr, scary :slight_smile:

#205

Erich,

Fantastic! Why scary? You’ll do great. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#206

thx, hope so… :slight_smile:

underpainting

#207

You’ll be fine. The benefit of group work (as you know from the Workshop) is that it motivates you to do more than you might just on your own. I’ve seen plenty of people improve by leaps and bounds in the OFDWs. :slight_smile: You’ll be glad you joined. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#208

@Rebecca

i did understand a few things in the last days, and will prove them with this piece.

#209

Erich,

Lol ~ you’re doing a great job! :thumbsup: As I said in the OFDW 012 thread, the upper torso looks great! Can’t wait to see this finished. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#210

thx Rebecca

#211

the foreground figures are almost done, now i’ll do the background.

#212

Fantastic work! :applause:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#213

@Rebecca

thx

#214

almost finished…

#215

finished…now it’s time to go back and work on my portfolio

#216

pirate-scribble and some thumbnails


#217

Hi …Erich…:slight_smile:

I like that second small thumnail composition…nice directional flow to it. Also really like
the expression on the devil in your Dante copy…captured it perfectly…GREAT job on
that whole painting…:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

#218

Erich,

Great job on the Bouguereau copy! :applause: Surely this can go in your Portfolio as well? :slight_smile:

With respect to your new drawings ~ I really like the 2nd and 3rd thumbs ~ the top image (the large pirate one) lacks something I think in terms of composition.

Take a look at this excellent tutorial:

Composition Tutorial by Phillip Straub
http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3275&page=

I think it goes into some really useful concepts re: Composition and illustrates them really well. :slight_smile:

Also, bear in mind the lessons you learned from the OFDW ~ the dynamism set up by diagonal lines in the Bouguereau copy are missing from the top composition. I think if the left foreground pirate had a more dynamic pose, say, were leaning into the composition more and facing more away from the viewer, with maybe a hand resting on a rail or something, the composition might be more exciting. Try thumbnailing it, and just throwing down some lines ~ the action and the movement in the image will be expressed in just a few quick strokes which establish the way the eye will move about the piece.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#219

you did an awesme job on the bouguereau piece el chief! i also enjoyed your last wip, will you turn your thumbs into full paintings too?

#220

@Spirit dreamer

thx a lot. the copy was not too bad for the first try, i think :slight_smile:

@Rebecca

thx. yes, the pirate-scribble was not thought out, and i didn’t make any thumbnails for it, so that’s another corpse in my exercise-mortuary :slight_smile:

I downloade the straub-tut already, but i always forget about the rule of thirds…

@lyneran
thx. i ’ ll make some more thumbs, and get something serious out of them hopefully :slight_smile: . in the new set my faves are ‘construction site’ and station’. i need a scene with more figures for the expose 4, i have time left for it, so i will try something.
i’m working also on a few fantasy pin-ups. i constructed the example with pencil on paper, and traced over it via transfer-paper, to get a cleaner look.