Sketchbook Thread of Erich Schreiner

#181

Masterful improvement on the face in that one Chief! Brilliant rework!:slight_smile:

#182

Definite improvements, Erich. Do you want me to make any suggestions via a paintover? I wonā€™t unless you give me the go~ahead. :wink:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#183

thx Martin

@Rebecca
no problem, just go ahead :slight_smile:

#184

so her is the next piece. itā€™s still WIP, just before the fine-tuning-phase. need to take some photos of my hands, and need to look up some other refs, just to make sure.
some things still bother me, so iā€™ll change them soon.

i was inspired by the movie King Arthur, and the following screen capture:

and here is my versionā€¦hope you like it :slight_smile:

#185

Erich,

I like this piece quite a lot! More so than the last, I must say. :smiley: Have you seen sh@keā€™s thread, and his horse? I think you might quite like itā€¦

I really like your subdued color pallette and the sense of atmosphere in this piece. The one thing I would say is that the horseā€™s legs look a bit wooden ~ take a look at the horse Reference images in the Animals thread, this post:

This contains lots of useful links to horse skeleton images etc. Slux also has some really nice drawings of horses in his thread.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#186

@Rebecca
thx. iā€™ll check out the refs tomorrowā€¦what do you think about the bluish hue (sky), better or not?

#187

Hey Erich,

nothing can promote doing master copies better than this piece which followed your intense phase you went through.

I am really impressed.

I like the fact that it only borders on fantasy topic-wise. I like the dull earthy color palette.

As concerns the sky: I did not feel the need to change anything about the sky as a viewer in the previous piece, so - while the blue hues donā€™t disturb too much - I donā€™t feel that this change contributes very much and I would therefore leave it like it was.

What I think you could do is push the depth information a bit. Maybe more contrast and sharpness about the horse armor and grass in the foreground?

#188

Erich,

I agree with Mr. Muā€™s comments in terms of making the background a bit softer, and bringing focus to the figure. What also might be nice is a shaft of sunlight on the top of the banner ~ something golden~orange and dramatic might really set things off.

Hereā€™s just a quick touchup by really only adding a layer set to the Color Blending Mode and increasing the merged resultā€™s Saturation ~ let me know what you think:

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[left]Of course this is only a suggestion, and even if you went in this direction, youā€™d want to sample the new colors and do some repainting, particularly around the horseā€™s legs. Hope it helps.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak
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#189

oh wow erich that looks great! i especially like how elaborately dressed the horse is. imho both the blue and greyish sky work, i guess itā€™s just down to what mood you want to convey. did i mention you totally amaze me? :smiley:

#190

@Mr Mu, Rebecca
thx a lot. i agree and will push the background back further in the next steps, i also will increase the saturation a bit. the picture with the overlay is ok i think, the more saturated version is too much for my taste :slight_smile:

@lyneran
thx so much for your kind words :slight_smile:

update

#191

updateā€¦i really need a more loose way of paintingā€¦itā€™s already starting to look too clean, isnā€™t it?

#192

updateā€¦

#193

Oh man, I am so glad you changed the horseā€™s foot because I was just about to crit away at it:D

Now, much against my initial intention and to my utter joy, I can say:

great job with the horse! It has much more of a warhorse look simply by the fact that it does not seem glued to the ground, now!

Thereā€™s another thing: I can decipher the structure of the mountain better than the newly introduced shape which obscures some parts of it at the left side.
But, as the mountain is supposed to be further away than that shape, it should be even more blurred/hard to read. Know what I mean? I think this would even deepen the distance in your painting, which, by the way, rocks the whole freaking building:buttrock:

#194

Erich,

I like this latest update, and think that the horsesā€™ legs look much better.

I think the ā€˜cleanā€™ look to which you are referring is due to the fact that most of your edges are the same ~ take a look at a traditional master painting, and notice all of the different kinds and types of edges which are present. As an example:

Titianā€™s ā€œThe Flaying of Marsyasā€


http://www.bexley.k12.oh.us/hslib/art/artists/Titian/The%20Flaying%20of%20Marsyas.jpeg

[left]Titian was a painter known for the remarkable variety of brushstrokes and edges in his workā€¦I think the best thing for digital artists to look at is not other digital art as much as at Traditional Drawing and Painting.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak
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#195

@Mr Mu
thx a lot, hope itā€™s better now.

@Rebecca
i read that titians ā€˜rough mannerā€™ was not very popular at his time, but may have influenced rembrandts late work.
another way of explaning rembrandts change of style is, that the ā€˜rough mannerā€™ is more for experienced artists, who know what to show in detail and what to indicate.
i believe this too, because for me itā€™s easier to render all the tiny details (which is wrong, wrong, wrongā€¦) than to leave a piece rough.
another problem i have to solve is, that i donā€™t know how much i have to work on a piece on screen, so that it will look ok in printed format.
so i made two versions of the last painting, that i sent to a photo-labor. guess i will have them back again tomorrow or on saturday.

letā€™s call this finalā€¦

#196

Erich,

Thatā€™s really interesting ~ the one little bit that I remember about this particular piece, ā€œThe Flaying of Marsyasā€, is that it was painted late in Titianā€™s life, and that it was almost meant as a self~portrait ~ where the artist is depicted as being ā€˜flayedā€™, or picked apart and criticized by the critics of his day. I think I saw this piece in the Louvre (a long time ago) or maybe I am just remembering a blurb from television at some point. :slight_smile:

Itā€™s not so simple to duplicate traditional techniques digitally, I am definitely struggling with it myself ~ a part of me is not so inclined to totally duplicate the traditional look, because digital is a different media and I want to exploit itā€™s particular properties. It will be interesting to see how far people can push it, since it seems weā€™re just at the very beginningā€¦I think at some point you might want to consider joining in on our OFDWs ~ weā€™re doing a Master Copy now, which would be good for you, I think, in terms of translating some of that traditional ā€˜feelā€™ into digital pieces. :slight_smile: (For me, too, if I had more time). :wink:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#197

@Rebecca
yes, itā€™s not that easy to mimic traditional art.

hereā€™s a bunch i made over the last days (the MasterDrawings are getting more sketchy, cause i used all the good ones already)

i thought what works with mastercopies might work with other stuff too; so i start my female-form-series right now :slight_smile:

#198

I think youā€™re work definitely resembles Luis Royoā€™s. He is my favorite artist, and I also strive to achieve similar style and photorealism to his in my work. Awesome job, keep up the good work.

#199

@3dgi

thx. i like royos style too, heā€™s my fave out of all the artists that do pin-up-like stuff

#200

next triesā€¦