Sketchbook (Art) Thread of kosmaty

#21

Keep going, Kosmaty! :slight_smile: These initial stages can be discouraging, but believe it or not you are making progress. No such thing as talent, just committment and hard work. Keep it up! :slight_smile:

#22

LOL, there’s no beating the Kimmel when you try to reply fast…:smiley:

okay

you shouldn’t exactly wait for progress…:smiley: just forget about it if you can. Might be more fun that way, and fun it should be!

And besides, this isn’t an either/or situation. Do both!

Many, many 2 mins drawings. Of complex poses, of master drawings. You know from the start that you won’t be able to get all the detail in or to even get the pose right, so… great! Because you can relax now. No need to try and get it right, because it’s only 2 mins. And the more you relax the more the other half of your brainpower is takin over. Then you suddenly start to realize how your gestures are more fluent and with time and some fifty to hundred 2 minute drawings (no need to post all of them…:smiley: ) wonderful things are going to happen.

Do the same with 5 and 10 mins. Don’t care for criteria like “right” or “wrong”. Do your very best.

With those you don’t erase. No time for that. If you feel a line is wrong, ignore and replace it. Let chaos reign!

And then, as a distraction from this madness you can start with a slow, thorough, focused study of a drawing (maybe even a master drawing you already have a 2/5/10 minute study of). There you erase to your hearts delight. There you take your time.

To cut it short: do both

And forget about the talent thing. Who gets further on this way: the talented lazy bum or the devoted enthusiast? Besides, I told you you have a feeling for opposing curves, imho, on page one… so where did that come from?

:slight_smile:

#23

Thank you both :slight_smile: why I got fustrated… a bad day probably… :stuck_out_tongue: gona do a Open Canvas painting and post the wpe would be great if someone would give me some advice after that.

#24

Hey, Kosmaty, I really like your latest master copy. Why are you abandoning it? You should continue painting it 'till the end. At least I would like to see that piece finished. You have a great start on it.
Another thing, these sketches seem to be done fast. Apologies if I’m wrong, but you shouldn’t rush anywhere. Take your time when doing a study. If you work longer, for example, drawing, hatching a hand, you will get to know it better, the muscles, how they react, you’ll think of where the bones are under them. Just a suggestion :slight_smile:

#25


I tried working at bigger format and realized, that it is harder! I’m going to do a full rendered master copy giving myself time!
Why I abandoned my baster copy? I saw a lot of mistakes, and it gave me a bad feeling while painting, I would have to repaint the whole thing, so I decided to do a new master copy instead.

#26

HEY…kosmaty…:thumbsup:

Still likeing your thread:) …great job on those two faces in your last post.:applause: :thumbsup:
Just take your time…make the most of it…:scream: …look at it this way,…if you solve one small problem in each work you do everyday, at the end of the
year, you will have solved 300 hundred plus problems…:slight_smile:
Once you solve that many problems, …speed shouldn’t be a problem, because you will have soved all the problems that you will otherwise keep repeating if you rush it…:slight_smile:
WHAT’S THE RUSH ANYWAY, WHERE’S THE FIRE…LOL…:scream:
JUST LEARN TO ENJOY IT, ONE DAY, AND ONE PROBLEM AT A TIME…:slight_smile:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

#27

I have 1,5 year then I want to do the art school exams in order to learn there, so I have to pracise every day.
And 1,5 year… its not much time. I draw alot besides anatomy, I love painting landscapes or cityskapes (also fantastic ones) even though I’m not very good at it…
for examlple (sorry for showing this in the Anatomy forums hope you dont mind)

#28

wow kosma,

I really like the second one with the android(?) on the platform

#29

i tried out big format, and i have some problems with it. Unfortunately my scanner is to small to show it to you :confused:
here are some sketches i did the last days… yeah i started to work with Hogarth, when I saw the book i decided to forget about Loomis :PP the problem is i dont realy know how to learn out of that book… i guess copying and trying to understand is the right way.
so whatever… here we go!


some eyes i found on google and in newspapers

#30



i’m proud of myself :slight_smile: Hogarth is just amazing!

#31

Lovely hogarth work, I’d say keep those up! You’ll learn simply from copying whatever you feel you need to work on, every drawing you do will better your knowledge and ability, expand your mental anatomy repertoire! Your environment work is quite lovely too, you have a nice sense of composition and scale in those. It’s a shame you’re not really pushing that first colour master copy of the lady with the fan, that’s got real potential as it stands, and I’m sure with a little more work it’d be fantastic. Keep up the good work!

#32

Hi…kosmaty…:thumbsup:

I really like that one with the two guys in the boat…nice feeling in that one,…that little touch of red really sets those silvery greys off in the rest of the painting…proving less can be more, if handled properly…nice job…:thumbsup:
Also really like those eye studies, and can see your starting to get into Hogarth…GREAT…:slight_smile:
When I had him as a teacher years ago, he always had a little sketch book that he would fill with figures in all sorts of action poses…the figures were no more than maybe six inches tall, or there abouts…He would always start them out with that peanut shape that he shows in his book, then add the legs and feet, then the arms and hands, then the neck , head, and face, in that order. Using that method, he could creat hundreds of them really quick, all in varied positions.
You might try something simaler while doing the detailed studies like you just posted,…the small ones don’t have to show every muscle, but should convay a sense of rythum with opposing curves, which will creat movement and a sense of action.
I think that a combination of smaller, lesser detailed figures, created from your imagination, combined with the larger detailed studies will give you the most benifit …What you learn and remember from the larger detailed studies, will start to show up in your smaller studies sooner than you might think, and those will have been created from your own imagination, which is what his method of drawing and teaching is meant to achieve…That, along with master studies,and studies from real life, should take you far,in your progress I think.
Just my opinion and thought here though…:slight_smile:
Really looking forward to seeing more of your work, and studies…:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

#33

thank you both for the advices and the motivation :slight_smile:
some more Hogarth studies… i’m not that happy about them in comparison to the first one…

#34

Hi there, these are good sketches! If I were you I wouldn’t give up on Loomis, although it can be hard to follow at times, like just how you are to draw something and trying to interpret some of his things…you kinda have to figure it out after looking at all his drawings. A nice companion book to Loomis that has a lot more instruction and tips I found is “Drawing the head & hands” by Jack Hamm. It’s a really good book too fyi :slight_smile:
I think in addition to copying work to learn, having some instruction on why things are as they are, and having it written out for you, really helps.

#35

Hi…kosmaty…:thumbsup:
Was wondering which Hogarth book you are working from.
The Dynamic Figure Drawing one has a whole lot of instrution on why things are the way they look,… in it…what makes things look correct,…and also why things look wrong if done incorrectly. If you don’t have it yet, you should for sure get it if you can.
I was just thinking about what Roja said, and that book came into my mind…has everything you need to know about creating a believable figure in it…not so much as in his figures…they being extremely styelized,and are mostly for teaching purposes, to demonstrate what is in his words,… which is where you will find all the answers to what you are seeking to know…so as you can interpret the human figure in your own style or voice, once you master the princaples that apply to drawing the human figure that he teaches in his books…:slight_smile:
REALLY nice job on those last studies by the way…looking forward to seeing more…:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

#36

Yep, I’m working with Dynamic Figure Drawing. I realized today, that my problem is not to draw on big format. My problem is to draw something bigger, than i actually see…

here is a visualisation of my problem.
I drew a random shape (more or less) and than tried to copy it (as you might expect) a little bit bigger. After making the shapes same size, you can see how wrong I was. I wonder if there is a good way to train on that.

#37

Kosmaty,

I think that with respect to enlarging / getting proportions right, a really good method is laid out in the book by Tony Ryder:

The Artist’s Complete Guide to Figure Drawing: A Contemporary Perspective on the Classical Tradition (Paperback)

The method he uses is to first lay out the figure or object with a series of straight lines to approximate the outline of the figure - describing the angles of the form instead of the curves. This technique, though simple, is remarkably effective in translating from life or from reference to the page.

Check out his webpage also:

http://www.tonyryder.com/

Cheers, :slight_smile:

-Rebeccak

#38

ok that worked out quite good :slight_smile:
Rebeccak your great :smiley:

#39

Heh, thanks Kosmaty, glad it helped. :slight_smile:

Keep pushing these Hogarth studies!

#40

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