Man, the stuff just keeps getting better and better around here. Very inspiring 
I get a little traffic on my site so I hope you guys dont mind but I plugged the project and used a few images from this thread.
Just let me know if itās alrightā¦if not Iāll take them down 
Regardless, keep up the good work fellas.
Sllink,
Iām having āfunā with the rig for the landmate, of course I forgot about rigging the inner arms.
For the GMan - we didnāt use the inner (pilot) fingers to drive the outer hands, which made the constraints less of a hassle as we didnāt need one per bone per finger.
(You know what Iām going to ask donāt youā¦) 
Is it too much of a ātravestyā if I swap over the inner arm āglovesā for some simpler geometry so we donāt have to drive the inner fingers, just the hand position / rotation.
If itās critical that the model stays as is fair enough, (Iāll just send you the bill from my therapist 
).
Iāve also realigned the inner arms as they need to be in āt-poesā stance, and the strut/wing thingies on the back as they also will need to be driven by the rig / constraints (Iāve added one bone per wing thingy and one to lock the main part of the back pack as per the G-Man.
The overall appearance wounāt be affected, (Iāve created a copy anyway so the original is intact), but the removal of having to make some considerable additional constraints.
Unleess someone knows of a way to avoid that?
KM- wowā¦ thanks!
Who could ask for such flattering stuff to be taken down 
ā¦if you want toā¦Iād say go a bit further and link the higher rez images, you can run em off your server if you like.
Thanks again
Sllink- roger that
Colkai- ā¦I feel the painā¦oooooooooooy! :argh:
Hey no problem Soft, glad you approve. Once I get home from work Iāll edit it to reflect the hi-rez images
Keep up the good work.
No Problem Bud! Do what you think is best without loosing your wits. We are not as young as we use to be. 
Young??? Hmmm nope, ya lost me bud.
Ok, I shall cheat, Iāll leave a āfull handedā version in case I find a way to streamline the process too.
The rig looks rather funky due to the way the parts join together, once itās done I may even look at building a pure āmechā version (pivots / layers) and seeing if I can drive it using Maestro2. However, thatās for another time, meanwhile, I shall press on with the setup using our normal āG-Manā procedure.
Hehe, no worries, just having a ribbing with SD, more to do with MB than anything.
One Iāve done the housework and the garden today, should have time to look at it.
(Ahh, the ājoysā of home ownership :p)
Sllink- heheā¦niceā¦now I gotta think to find another for AJEā¦ .
FTP when you get time.
Will Do:thumbsup: sorry about that its just that one thing led to another and the next thing you knowā¦:twisted:
Hi Team,
Itās good to pop in and find a hive of activity. Iāve been beset by problems finishing a current project so I havenāt delivered what Iād promised. So no more promises, just a hope that Iāll be done sooner (in days) rather than later. Iām sorry Iām holding progress on the fuchi clip :sad:.
Sllink- heheā¦you could make that a new LW advert. I sat down and had a model doneā¦you make it sound easy.
Donshole- hey, itās ok, Iām just glad you are still alive. Was gonna send out a search party if we didnāt hear from you this weekend. Weāre in casual mode for a bit so no worries. :buttrock:
Sorry SDā¦ lol
Moving this weekendā¦ still donāt have the comp up and running.
Fire up another one that you need doneā¦ Iām still kickinā
Cheers,
AJE
doneShole-No worries, been there, done that. Life happens and as your tag says "Whether you do or donāt, time will pass." Im quoting this in a good way nothing stands still. The Shirow project will be here when you are ready and Im sure your gonna blow our sox off.
SD- I have uploaded the Dropship redo to my FTP. I hope its what you needed feel free to tweak it. Im sure I didnt get all the nooks and crannies that may have been on the original model but I tried.
Of that you can be sure.
Iām hoping to have something ready myself soon, Iāve āabandonedā the fake-rig setup for he landmate. When I looked over my notes again, the only reasonfor using a fake rig over constraints was if we need at some point to drive the inner arms without driving the outer arms. Iām not sure weāll ever have a shot where that is the case.
Iāve gone with a couple of relational constraints which allow me to adjust the offset of the lims so it doesnāt get twisted due to the difference in rotations of the inner and āmainā arms. Iām also going to put in a scaling constraint so the inner arms donāt sweep as much as the outer arms, we can then adjust this factor to suit, we can even do it on a scene by scene basis.
As it stands, Iām just in the process of finalising the constraints and hope to have a walk test ready in the next day or two. :wip:
You can have two independent characters in 1 model. Youāll need separate hierachies as you already do for the original landmate. Characterise each one. Then parent (with parent constraint)the FK hips (yellow effectors) of the āinner arm characterā to whichever part of the control rig of the āouter armā character you think is best.
The key here is to make sure that the IK reach for the āinner arm characterā is set zero for all its effectors, so that it is in pure FK mode.
Yeah, thatās more or less what we used for the G-Man, a heirarchy as a second character, btu for what we are doing, I think āsimpleā constraints are easier and faster to instigate and control.
I do intend to look more into secondary characters, but if we are only following, Iād almost be tempted to leave the inner arms then just set up some expressions in LW once the main motion has been done. In fact, I may do a test run doing just that for comparision.
As regards the second heirarchy, the fake pilot weāve used in the past was comprised of markers, if we were to import a model with secondary limbs, would we need a whole second skeleton?