Rebecca Kimmel's Anatomy Review 002: OPPOSING CURVES

#261

rebeccak, just dropping by to thank you for great tips and insights. It’s been hectic trying to follow all those pages and pages of your workshop and the earlier one. Great stuff and really made me think a lot about gestures and especially opposing curves… Of course it’s due to my ignorance but thanks again for this. I will read more and study more. :slight_smile:

#262

Hi Rebecca,

I got really inspired by your topics.
Actually I did a lot of anatomy drawing back when I was an FA student,
and it was by far my favourite.
I love gesture marks.

So without knowing the whereabouts of my conte sticks charcoal or pad,
I grabbed a model pic.

Then I found a PS brush I liked.
Then I got the mouse going…

Here’s the results just for fun :slight_smile:

#263

Ok I can’t help but post now - damn you Mirwen and Rebecca - j/k :wink: Mirwen I’m in high school at the moment, I don’t do art (there was no art class due to not enough demand - our schools are like that :() so the best thing I can do is draw in my own time.

Regarding modern art/traditional/digital - basically to me whatever looks aesthetically appealing (a bit like photography here which I show a keen interest in) while at the same time showing thought and presenting an idea gets my vote. And I agree with you when you say that there is indeed a new “revolution” - digitalism (heh I’m doing to start using that word :)). With Rebecca, I agree that we have to be accepting of all forms of art (sorta ties in with your everything is art theory). Anyway this thread is becoming sidetracked somewhat (this really should belong in Art discussion - hope Robert doesn’t mind…)

Anyway, out of the woodwork now, I would liek to thank Rebecca and Robert for giving us such a great educational and interesting thread - best one on CGtalk atm imo! :slight_smile: I’ll try to post some of my drawings once my scanner works, failing that I’ll just whip out my tablet…

#264

Hi rebbeca and everyone,

finally got around to post something here. The image is not from reference so i cant post it (duh).

Thanks rebecca for the time and effort you are putting into helping the rest of us. :applause:

Keep it up folks,
–kaspaxl

#265

Anytime you are at a computer and have access to the net, go to www.dictionary.com, no need to carry a big book around :slight_smile:

Anyway, I have drawn another study, but i want to least one more before I post. Watched a movie last night so ran outa time :stuck_out_tongue:

Back to drawing…

EDIT:
Here’s my new drawings:

References:
1st pic: http://www.abcgallery.com/M/michelangelo/michelangelo23.html
3rd Pic: http://figuredrawings.com/1116JOHN%20EVERARD7.jpg

#266

Hey Rebecca,

This is Hong. I went to school with you at Artcenter many years ago. We took a Steve Houston class together at Associates in Arts. I hope you’re doing well. Your work is awesome as well as your tutorial. I would like to see what you are up to now days. Please e-mail me.

Hong

hong@characterdesigns.com

#267

kaspaxl, nice stuff! I did a draw-over review of your post, hope you don’t mind :slight_smile:

Anyone, feel free to correct me if i did something stupid :slight_smile: I’m not a pro :smiley:

#268

[b]scorpion007

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OK.
I didn’t like your draw over.
I apologise but I’ll just be honest.

I actually think your figure drawing is interesting.
No one is doing hand studies anyway.
It’s just your overdraw that I didn’t like next to the thread creator’s.
I personally think Rebecca Kimmel should be doing the overdraws.

Please don’t be upset I don’t want to flame anybody.

#269

spin99, a little harsh, no?

for someone who admits he’s no pro, i don’t find scorpion’s post “asking to be flamed” in the least. also, scorpion’s draw over brings up some valid points, IMO. though i don’t know too much either. no need to get personal over a review of 1) work that wasn’t yours, a review that 2) wasn’t offensive and 3) brings attention some valid critique?

#270

LOL! Well if that’s how you feel, then that’s fine with me. :smiley:

kaspaxl, if you want me to delete my review, tell me and I will.

Spin99, feel free to do a better draw-over of kaspaxl’s work and let me learn.

As I said, I may be wrong with the flexibility thing, so I stand corrected. I am not overweight and I tried to see how high I could get my knee up prior to critting his post.

Your drawing of hands and feet is particularly atrocious.

Well, I wasn’t really aiming to do a detailed study of the hands and feet here, rather getting the placement of them down. As was the point of the exercise, no?

#271

Guys,

Chill out ~ this is not a big deal ~ everyone here is just here to try and help each other out ~ this has been explicitly stated EVERYWHERE on this thread ~ so please, don’t jump down each others’ throats, as this is not the atmosphere which I want to have for this thread. I believe scorpion007 was doing as I have encouraged EVERYONE to do, which is to raise their voice and say (or draw) what they think. Anyone may offer their opinion ~ not just me! ~ as this strengthens this community here and, I believe, helps everyone, both critiquer and critqued alike, to grow.

So let’s just not get over-excited, and move on. We all bring something to the table, and I do not wish for anyone to feel too timid to offer their opinion ~ it may be taken with a grain of salt, as mine may be ~ so let’s stay cool.

Thanks, guys, for your continued posts, and let’s just continue to support each other in our mutual efforts to improve our work. :wink:

EDIT: And SunnyRaining, YOU’RE RIGHT and I will control my ranting, or move it to another forum! :wink:

~Rebeccak

#272

AdrielaSakamoto,

I appreciate your posts! Here is my review of your work :slight_smile:

Comments: I really like some of your linework, and the way you block out forms ~ particularly faces ~ it reminds me a bit of Pontormo, whose work you should definitely check out. He has very soft, sensitive linework which is not overly obsessive with anatomy, but which gives somewhat of a more ‘impressionistic’ (at least by Renaissance standards) feeling of form. This is something I think you might like to emulate, as there is already a similar quality to your work.

Crits: I would say to focus on the bigger picture in terms of curves. You will hear me saying this a lot because I believe that this is really true ~ and is a principle which, when applied consistently, can improve many a drawing. When you are not sure of an area, generalize it in a more sweeping curve which relates to the opposite side of the body. You can always go back into the drawing to add more detail, but detail which is in a similarly loose style that consistently echoes the larger curves defiining the major forms of the body.

Hope this helps, and thanks for your posts! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#273

here is my update.
-R

#274

Just wanted to pop in and say congrat’s RK! I know you’re really working hard on this thread and even a non-drawing talent like myself might manage to glean a tip or two :wink:

I can’t post attachments yet, but once I can … then maybe I’ll get the nerve to post a few of my dancer sketches. (Q-tips not included)

see you :: AA

#275

Sorry I missed the first lesson. But atleast I got to do the secound lesson. I have not done any figure drawing in a long time so I figure this will be good to get me back into it. Below is my sketch done in conte crayon, charcoal and chalk.

#276

Roberto!

Cool to see you posting! <finger drum> Yes…eggsellent…

Many props to an excellent friend :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

EDIT:
Sulla ~ WOW! Gorgeous drawing there…thank you for posting! I am a little amazed by those of you who preface their lovely works with the phrase, “I haven’t drawn in ages…” ~ it will be great to see what happens when you guys PRACTICE! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

Vooram? in Eurrrrope? quiet chuckle… :wink: mad props to you!

#277

I go away for a few hours and miss all the drama. People flaming others and some intese crticism over what is art.

I will chime in only breifly as I think many of my posts have been a bit too long. I think the big controversy within this thread lies within differences of what exactly makes up good art and what exactly is proper (sucessfull) technical training. There is a great deal of confusion here. What is good art? This is an objective principle that depends entirely on the viewer. What is solid technical training? Good technical training depends entirely on the success of the people invovled, both teachers and students. This can be seen in the contemporary art world with the growing popularity of ateliers. Lets face it, if Rebecca’s posts of her work were really bad smiley faces, would we tune in? Her success as an artist can be traced back to her origins as a student (as well as a great deal of personal exploration as well). It is clear that her expertise has been derived form superior training ( Burne Hogarth…come on he’s friggin awesome) and practice habits. It is this training/knowledge that we are here seeking. Many of the principles that we are now being shown have been passed down for hundreds of years. They have been treid and tested, and have suceeded (almost to well) in producing artists of exetreme technical ability.
While the masters may not be everyones cup of tea (and that is perfectly fine, it should be this way), what they do offer is an education that can be priceless. If you know how to draw a hand, you can draw it anyway you like. Wrong or right, your work will be able to stand strong against much of the criticism all your art work will inevitably attract. You will allways be confident in knowing that your technical ability is exceptional and your conceptual prowess is even better.

Thanks for reading,
Shaun

#278

Thanks glad you like it but when I see it I see the great work of the masters over the years and see how far I have to go. For example some of the work on http://www.artrenewal.org/. At the moment I am looking for a good local teacher and I am planning on getting serios with my studies again:)

#279

Sorry duplicate message.

#280

[font=Arial][size=2]Sorry I know I am going a bit ahead of this whole thing, but I want to add some stuff to my portfolio and I thought a drawing to a finished state with all the steps is a good go per day :slight_smile: I plan to add all these to my website in a new section. The drawings I did in figure drawing class were nice, but it is messy scanning them so I rather just redo my own figure drawing area of my port.[/size][/font]

She is a Flamenco dancer btw. Got some basic ref on the net the pose is my own.

  1. Gesture
  2. Opposing Curves
  3. Clothing gesture
  4. Rendering shadow
  5. Rendering highlights
  6. Nice red flower :smiley:

Not too happy with the leg becuase of the ankle being small on the curves version on gesture it is thicker…

I love this thread it is giving me a mission to do some works in my free time :slight_smile: