Rebecca Kimmel's Anatomy Review 002: OPPOSING CURVES

#241

I’m so glad to hear you say that. Can I say that these threads will be more education than most will receive in their “formal” training. It’s so focused and to the point. This is probably the fourth time now but thanks for doing this Rebakka. You are really helping many people.

#242

WyattHarris,

When you blast coke out of your nose, just make sure it hits your DRAWING ~ that way, you can call it a day, and have a finished PAINTING :scream:

:wink:

~Rebeccak

#243

Rebecca!
This thread and indeed the previous one are amongst the most fun threads I’ve ever read at CGTalk and definitely the most educational. I’m having fun reading through all the posts and some stunning work here!
Congrats everyone…you are all doing fantastically!! Major kudos to you rebecca for doing this for us… where in the US are you at the moment?

I’d be incredibly interested in learning about your art education and what you think of the direction art education is heading these days. Please post another rant!

#244

paperclip!

I’ve been wondering where you were! Thanks a bunch for the comments, it’s really nice to hear such positive feedback! Having said that…have you posted your work today? :wink:

It is indeed great that so many people are on board for this ~ I am thrilled!!!

Can’t wait to see who else decides to join up and post their fabulous drawings…and, when the sub-forum gets up, paintings! Woo! :slight_smile:

I live / work near Washington, DC ~ though have considered off and on moving back to the West Coast ~ go figure, I must miss the smog! :wink:

And I could rant for DAYS, yeah, you just don’t want that ;).

~Rebeccak

#245

Yeah, i do want you to! I’m interested in hearing what you have to say about it. Would you like me to open up a new thread about it in the art discussion forum?!

As for my work…my scanner is kaputt at the moment and my work isn’t as good as others here…sob…so I may have to sit this one out. When my scanner is resurrected though, believe me you’ll be inundated!!

#246

augustus,

Thank you for posting your work! Here is my review…:slight_smile:

Overall I think you have a good feel for form and weight ~ and your rendering / shading is really quite nice and has a sensitive quality to it which should be commended. However, my recommendation would be to focus FIRST on the major flow lines of the figure and to FIRST draw in a more loose and gestural way so that when you go to render a final piece, you do not get stuck with proportions which are wrong, if only slightly.

The critique I made is not about your style but about your APPROACH ~ I would try to focus on the BIG PICTURE before rendering any details. I would always draw the head in, if only loosely as a gesture, as the head dictates the attitude of the rest of the body.

SIMPLIFY ~ and then focus on getting details right within this looser context.

Great work, and I look forward to more of your posts ! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#247

Mirwen, you don’t know how funny that sentence is! I have a pain laughing! lol :slight_smile:

#248

ok, after reading this entire thread, i’ve been following along since the first thread and drawing gestures, but i don’t have a scanner. i decided to run to the library today and use theirs!

i give permission to anyone to say anything they want about my pics, these or otherwise (in later lessons). just keep in mind i’ve never taken an art class in my life (except one in high school i think) and i have no idea what i’m doing in terms of everything, tools, shading, etc.

i did these with a #2 i found some place. i know i was supposed to use references, but i had a hard time finding good ones, so i just drew gestures first then went from there.

this is a boxer. i got a bit carried away with musculature in all of them, especially this one

this is a guy holding something heavy, maybe some groceries or a really heavy purse haha

this guy is being pulled away by the hands i think

thx in advance guys

#249

i sure love a lot of these drawing showing up here. very inspiring. now that im hooked, this is all i do, at home, work, etc. feedback and suggestion on mine would greatly be appreciated.

#250

thetrianglekid,

Wow, no training? Really? These are downright good considering that ~ and to go to the library to scan these, wow, that is dedication ~ how awesome! Thanks for posting these! :slight_smile:

bandersnatch,

I am trying to get to these as I can…indeed there is much inspiring work here, and I want people to feel free to comment on others’ work as well.

Thanks for posting, this is highly cool!

~Rebeccak

#251

Rebecca:Right now you seems to me a little bit sarcastical.:slight_smile: I said what I had on my heart (of course not everything) and I understand that you understand it:) And I thank you for your tolerance:). But let me tell you some of my opinions on art. No, I don’t think you will tolerate modern art:arteest: after this post, but please… try to listen.:wink:
How did I look one year before from now - I was studiing 3th year (from 4) of high school of art - advertising school. I loved Leonardo Da Vinci and from newer age Matthew Stawicky, Luis Royo, Larry Elmore and my favorite one Keith Parkinson. I hated homosexuals. I hated so-called modern art. I hated everybody - even myself (In that time I made a new international word: L’egression [No, it is not in french agression] - it express createful agression that person have on himself. In 4th year - a new young teacher of drawing came. Along with this we started learning styles of 19th century to 20th century.
It was one or one and half year of brutal change. First hour of drawing that new teacher came to me, looked at my drawing and said: “It is completly wrong”, “Do you see that line of the head?..” and so on. Than he took an eraser and erased my drawing completly! Justa few weeks ago he told me that In that moment when he erased my drawing My face changed color to red and he thought that I will really beat him. I didn’t - because I am not violent person. After that he started to learning my class what is modern art and what is it all about. I can’t tell you everything what all I learned. But I can tell you this. I dont love rennesaince right now. I respect it as I respect modern art of 20th century. Now I respect that somebody can have his own color of skin (I didn’t like gypsies), his religion, his sexual way. His Whatever. What I love now is realism of 19th century and art nuovo (Such czech names as Alfons Mucha, Myslbek, Marak, Brozik, Piepenhagen) an from now I love what I would call Digitalism. Now is the time when modern art became classical and old art with new medias (3D and tablets) became modern. This time belong to us, to you - to modern classicals! It is our purpose to put out modern art. But let me tell you this. What modern art did was that modern art flaunted classical art. But without this it brings new things - such as new medias, clean design, and very important souls in art. I was thinkink about all these things and still thinkink but what I’ve realized is that I we have a digital renessaince right now, we should take the best of E V E R Y T H I N G . Put it together and create new form, not just make new rennesaince with new medias but with old thoughts.

You said that modern art killed an art. But if modern art killed art, then it in fact killed itself:). Sounds like nonsense? The fact is that art cannot be killed. The thing that modern art kiled is more important. Look at you great cities, and tell me what can you see. Beautiful skycrapers right? That is modern art, there you can see what modern art killed - the Nature.

In my opinion we should learn from the centuries and try to create a new world. Classical art is beautiful and simple to understand, but it is soul-less. Modern art kills nature so what I am saying is - no this way: What would you deign?

It is my genaral question to everybody. And now I am silent as a grave. I have several solutions, but I would like to hear others solutions first. sci-fi? No it’s beeing happenning right now. We are now. We are the future.

#252

:scream:Hey! this is cool. I didn’t see it before. And now I can - can’t stop laughing - did only men Hee hehehe:scream:

#253

haha thx rebecca, i take that as a HUGE compliment. i was trying to draw like your example pics on the first page, but not getting anywhere close.

bandersnatch, i think your pics have got a great sense of proportion and weight. something i struggle with :frowning:

#254

Mirwen,

Wonderful post, and thank you for sharing what’s on your heart. I do know that without modernism we would have no lovely skyscrapers, and trust me, I’m happy I’m not living in a hut. I do just love to rant, though :slight_smile: as this makes me happy :wink:

Now, trust me, I am not such a Luddite that I’m not aware of the current Renaissance taking place within the realm of Digital Art and Movies ~ I’ve taken to watching geeky movies laden with special effects with my friends, and I am constantly AMAZED at the advances made in the Digital Realm ~ holy cow! When I go to SIGGRAPH this year, I am taking a bike helmet as a form of personal protection, so that when I am blown away my dental costs will be reduced ;).

It is a bit funny how everyone on the thread began to copy Michelangelo’s works. Notice that I never said that people had to do this! I only wrote that that’s what I like to do, and I absolutely cannot deny that I’m a Renaissance freak who back in the day would probably have been happy as a lark mixing paint for some fuddy duddy Old Master. BUT…the reason I emphasize learning from the Old Masters is because I see flaws in current forms of Art which make me lament the loss of traditional teaching in Art Schools.

For example, in 3D work, I can see MYRIAD flaws in some models which could be improved. I am no Maya Master ~ and ironically, I am better at technical Maya modeling than I am at Organic Modeling (mostly due to inexperience) ~ but I can certainly spot flaws from a mile away. So my rant is about artistic TRAINING less than artistic FORM ~ I am as much amazed, inspired, and obsessed by 3D work that I see in other forums on this site as I suspect you and many others are. 3D - Woo!

Having said all of that, let me say that I think ABSOLUTE statements of ANY kind are the kinds of things that produce people like Hitler and your other demons of history, be they religious, political, or otherwise in pursuit. I find it touching that you would admit to having had experienced some of this ABSOLUTISM in your “youth”, and I think we all grow out of these things as we begin to take in more experiences of the world and stretch our capacities to think, accept, and grow. You will continue to change for the better, as you have admitted that you already have, and I would just encourage you to continue to do so as you
discover more about the world than you know.

As for your teacher, if I could, I would hit him ~ this kind of treatment for students is for me unacceptable. People are delicate in their beginning stages of learning ANYTHING, and artists in particular are succeptible to criticism. So on your behalf, I give him a big one-fingered salute ;).

Mirwen, thanks for sharing your thoughts, and I hope you know that I’m not a Drawing Nazi, and DO accept all forms of art. I love video installation, movies, some performance (tho not much!) and multimedia and design work of all kind. I DO have strong opinions when it comes to drawing, but mainly it is because I truly lament the fact that traditional training has been eroded to such a point in my country that it has a hard time coming back. 3D gives 2D new life as it demands traditional skills of every stripe. The world changes quickly, and we have to adapt more quickly than ever before in history ~ but I don’t believe that we should completely shed the artistic heritage which took centuries to build because ‘South Park’ is a hit show :wink:

That’s my rant, and I’m sticking to it :slight_smile:

#255

I will ask you tomorrow because I need my big dictionary - so many new words - I am learning here both anatomy and English. This is great!:slight_smile:

Just one thought to my teacher - right now he is one of my best friends :slight_smile:
Here is 23: 38 -going to sleep - good night

#256

Hey hey! this thread is really interesting, i might throw something in for you all to laugh at! :smiley:

#257

keep up the good work everyone! :slight_smile: this threads great :smiley:

I’m gunna pitch in on the modern art, now, i haven’t studied art, i don’t know all the intricaces, but here we go. If i can put a canvas on the floor, get out my wang, piss on it in a variety of random patterns, possibly created whilst doing a cowboy" yeeeha!" style motion, and sell it for millions, calling it art, then bleh, its just retarded. and thats how i see a lot of modern art :smiley: give me like, portraits and scenes anyday :confused:

have a good un everyone :slight_smile:

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#258

Mirwen wrote:

>Just one thought to my teacher - right now he is one of my best friends :slight_smile:

Hahahahahaha! Okay, THAT is just funny. I take what I said about him back! :smiley:

#259

No! It is more funny not taking it back :stuck_out_tongue:

#260

Mirwen wrote:

>…(Now) I love what I would call Digitalism

Oh thank heavens you said that. I kept asking my friends what we should call contemporary art ~ Post - Post Modern Art? UberPostModern Art? I couldn’t come up with something right.

[color=lemonchiffon]Digitalism. Yep. Works for me. :)[/color]

Desp#2/Rog,

Since we are speaking of tolerance, I will acknowledge that it’s funny either way ;).

~Rebeccak