Rebecca Kimmel's Anatomy Review 001: GESTURE

#341

Everyone,

Per FromanylanD’s suggestion, please do the following if you don’t mind people other than myself critiquing or doing a draw-over of your work (also see the full post: #275):

RULES FOR CORRECTING OTHERS’ DRAWINGS:

EDIT: I would recommend the following: IF YOU DO NOT MIND OTHERS CRITIQUING YOUR WORK AND DOING DRAW-OVERS ON YOUR DRAWINGS, STATE THIS ON YOUR POST, in other words write[color=white]: [/color]“I do not mind others’ critique/draw-overs of my drawings”.

CAVEAT: However, if NOTHING is stated on your original post of your drawing, we will assume that permission has been granted by the artist to do a critique/redraw of your work. So, if a re-draw/draw-over of your work really bugs you, then STATE: DO NOT DO A DRAW-OVER OF MY WORK on your original post.

Thanks! :slight_smile:
~Rebeccak

#342

Cool…also, if you do that, I think it’s safe to do a re-draw if someone doesn’t specify whether they mind or not :twisted:.

#343

Rather frightening icon you’ve got going on there…:wink:

#344

deadplant155,

I finally have time to post your review :slight_smile:

Thank you for posting :slight_smile:

I would not focus on shading at all at this point, as gesture drawings are first and foremost about lines. I wouldn’t even worry about cylinders and things, I would just try to get a freeform line on the page that is elegant and expressive at the same time. This may be easier with pencil and paper than with a Wacom pen ~ several people, including myself, have had a hard time adapting to them (tho, like drawing, adjusting to the digital pens just requires practice).

I would also recommend doing several FAST small sketches on a page in whatever medium ~ practicing a LOT is the only way to get better.

Definitely continue to post your work, and I hope that this is helpful :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#345

Gord MacDonald,

Thank you for your post #109 ~ finally I had time to review it :slight_smile:

My main comment is to simplify things ~ I think you have too much emphasis on the small bumps and anomolies of the body ~ I would focus more on the big picture ~ with only lines to suggest an entire figure in only 2 minutes, you want the drawing to read from a long way off, and the only way to accomplish this is to draw simply and create clearly defined forms.

When you are drawing one side of a form, always regroup on the other side of the form to complete it ~ in other words, use OPPOSING CURVES to consistently generate form, all over the body.

Don’t worry about shading at this point, as doing gesture drawings is intended to reinforce your economy of LINE. While shading can be used in a gesture drawing ~ there are, after all, no gesture drawing police :wink: ~ I think it’s more important to reinforce in the mind and in the hand the sense of form you can accomplish only with line.

Hope this helps! Please continue to post your work :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#346

Right, don’t laugh too hard :smiley: I don’t draw, i haven’t properly drawn anything in 5 years, and even then i didn’t do a huge deal. I’ve been meaning to practice, and this thread has sparked me off :smiley:

Few things: I really don’t care if you crit or not, it’s possibly not worth it, as ive been doing tese for a few days. and each time i am noticing things that are wrong/need improving and things. I think i am getting more confident than i was a few days ago. Anywho, i don;t want you wasting your time, so don’t feel you have to :smiley:

I don’t have decent pencils here, which has made making corrections a tad harder, and made some if it a tad complicated to see. The order i doddled them, is bottom right, the boxes, then the red over it, and then the black over the red. :slight_smile: Complicated, but mef, worked for me for now lol

I know i have issues atm, and i’m slowly weeding them out :slight_smile: For example, these were all based off women (clothed, so a bit more complcated for me) yet they appear quite big. I also have issues with shoulders, they always seem to big lol But alas, its all a learning game, and i’m getting there, slowly but surely.

Anywho, there we go, go for your life if anyone direly wants to crit it, but i won’t be distraught if it doesnt happen :smiley: Keep up the good work everyone :slight_smile:

#347

oooh i kinda like gord mcdonalds drawing style there,kinda cool,sorta what i’m goin for.

#348

NoirQ,

Don’t sweat it, all noobs are welcome here! Glad to see your post :slight_smile:

NOOB,

I like Gord’s style too ~ I think the figure on the left is nice ~ the crit being that focus should be on generalities first, and details second :slight_smile: This is going to start to sound old, because I will keep repeating it :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#349

lutonomy,

Thank you for your posts and your patience :slight_smile: ~ Finally, your review…

I think you are doing well, particularly on the one on the left, which is the most recent one which you submitted, I believe.

I really like the flow of line in the leg of the left figure, and I like how you’re not overthinking things as you were in the earlier image on the right ~ loosening up is the key, even if not everything is perfectly positioned! So thank you for your post.

Keep up the good work, and I hope this proves useful :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#350

Thanks Rebecca!! Very helpful - looking forward to more good stuff! :slight_smile:

#351

AStott,

Thanks for your posts and your patience :slight_smile: Finally, your review:

I think you did a cool little drawing which I think you enjoyed doing. I would just say to loosen up your lines and to try to establish a feeling of one line connecting to another in your drawing.

I would try to fit several little sketches on page, using whatever medium with which you are most comfortable.

I hope you continue to sketch and post!

~Rebeccak

#352

Hi Somhairle

THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I will try to take on board what you have said, but will need to wait until the anatomy class begins in earnest to understand the “inside the body” bit you mentioned. I must confess I dont have a clue - I’ve never studied it.

I didn’t have any underdrawing to these, I just drew them as I saw them. I do agree that they seem a bit devoid of my personality. This is something I will try to sort out with more practice now I think I get it a bit more.

Again, thank you so much for the crit!

Take care

MIKE :thumbsup:

#353

MagicRubber,

Thanks for your posts and participation :slight_smile: Finally, the review…

Key to everything is simplification while retaining form. Also, I would recommend when drawing, ALWAYS drawing in the same direction ~ in other words, don’t draw in one direction and then another, going back and forth with your pencil / wacom pen / charcoal ~ but if you make your strokes from top to bottom, do this CONSISTENTLY. This will significantly help a drawing.

Keep up the posting and continue to draw daily if you can :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#354

Whoa…Ive lost track…Been away for only a couple of days. Ehehhh…

But thanks rebbecak…I appreciate your review…maybe i’ll post some later.

They are some great talents here as i can see…Keep it up guys!!

#355

libor,

Thanks for your original post:#105 ~ Finally, your review :slight_smile:

Comments: I like the inked style, it’s cool, and I’m happy you’ve used minimal shading ~ I like the line that runs along the left side of HER body and down her leg ~ this has a nice continuity to it.

Crits: I would say that the head is too small for the body, and that the legs are too short.
I would emphasize drawing the axis that connects the shoulders - this is important in establishing the gesture of the rest of the body. Her left lower arm looks a bit rubbery, which I think is one of the reasons why the pose should be established as a gesture first, and then in a rendered state…but I think you have a strong start, and I hope you continue to draw this way and post your progress!

Hope this helps :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#356

Ok, I need a break, but will post more either later tonight or tomorrow…stay tuned :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#357

EDIT:
dioxide,

Ok, I finally have your review :slight_smile:

I think your post is a very decent effort ~ however, there are a few recommendations I would make which I think would help to improve your drawing.

Firstly, I would try to define the whole of the head, as it sets the proportional standard for the rest of the body. A circle bisected by a few axes to show the axes of the brow, eyes, nose, and lips should do it.

Secondly, you’ve done a really nice job defining all of the neck muscles, but in a gesture drawing, you want to keep things SIMPLE.

Define the head, neck, center axis, box or peanut of the ribcage, general directional lines of the arms and legs, etc. SIMPLY.

I would recommend doing a sheet filled with small gesture drawings - in whatever medium.

Good luck with these, and I hope you continue to post!

~Rebeccak

#358

Junkoman,

Finally able to review your first post :slight_smile:

I think you are making really good efforts here, but I would try to pull the individual parts together into a more cohesive whole ~ experiment with more expressive lines and try to allow one segment of the body flow into another while still maintaining its identity as a separate entity. This is tricky and takes practice, but if you create several sheets of gestures drawings, smallish, and with several figures to a page, you will become more familiar with the terminology of gesture drawings, and it becomes a LOT of fun!

Keep drawing, and please continue to post :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#359

wow! there is so much information in this thread, it’s difficult to get through. I wonder if things would be easier in the future to split out the reviews from the ancillary comments? That way, Rebecca (and other reviewers) could have a noise-free thread for the reviews, and the rest of us could discuss and comment in the main lesson thread.

this is such an amazing opportunity, I hate to see it mired down.

anyway, thanks to all who are helping critique!!

#360

lokki wrote:

>wow! there is so much information in this thread, it’s difficult to get through. I wonder if things would be easier in the future to split out the reviews from the ancillary comments?

Excellent point, lokki ~ and I absolutely agree.

There is a strong possibility that this will become a new Sub-Forum under WIP/Critique: 2D, Illustrations and Concept Art ~ in which things will be much better organized ~ TUTORIALS, RESOURCES, various TOPICS will (hopefully!) all have separate threads.

I will discuss this with Roberto, and see what we can work out for the current thread.

Thanks for the input! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak