Rebecca Kimmel's Anatomy Review 001: GESTURE

#301

BTW, it’s not final, but it looks as though this thread could potentially turn into a new
Sub-Forum under WIP/Critique: 2D, Illustrations and Concept Art…I am thrilled that this is a possibility!

As I mentioned before, this potential Sub-Forum, perhaps titled Artistic Anatomy and Figurative Drawing, would not be just a forum in which I critique peoples’ work (unless people want me to) but rather, it would be an open forum where anyone is free to post their work for critique by their peers in the CGTalk community. I will DEFINITELY be posting, but by no means is the idea behind this to be focused on my critique alone…but, as I said, I will be happy to review work if people wish me to do so :). My hope is that the forum will grow in such a way that more and more people will begin to feel comfortable critiquing one anothers’ work (in a constructive way, of course) and offering their advice and suggestions ~ much the same way as the other forums operate, in which peers are very supportive of one another’s efforts!

I’d like to open up a discussion about what TOPICS people are most interested in with respect to Artistic Anatomy and Figurative Drawing. This can be anything…books, resources, specific drawing topics, etc…

I greatly appreciate your input! And I hope that you guys will continue your incredible participation in this new sub-forum if it happens! Thanks for the support, guys, and for all of the activity you have exhibited with your awesome posts!

Thanks, guys :slight_smile:
~Rebeccak

#302

I will be around :slight_smile:

Thing is I enjoy gesture drawings because firstly practice is good and second it is so quick to do that you really do not use a lot of your time up. Just a few a day for practice. I am sure I might skip a few days but ill try to be around :smiley:

#303

Desp#2/Rog wrote:

>I will be around :slight_smile: around

>Thing is I enjoy gesture drawings because firstly practice is good and second it is so quick to do that you really do not use a lot of your time up. Just a few a day for practice. I am sure I might skip a few days but ill try to be around :smiley:

Thanks, Desp#2/Rog! It means a lot that you are interested :).

Since you are primarily interested in Gesture Drawings, perhaps it would be a good idea to have a thread under the sub-forum dedicated exclusively to daily (or weekly, etc.) GESTURE DRAWINGS. Much like the Sketch of the Week sub-forum, in which people post their drawings on a daily basis. This might be a great motivation to get people to practice :).

~Rebeccak

#304

Very much agreed! And I really… if you move this thread to a seperate forum-part, dont wanna loose your teaching!

#305

Kitami wrote:

>Very much agreed! And I really… if you move this thread to a seperate forum-part, dont wanna loose your teaching!

Kitami, thank you for your post, I appreciate the positive feedback! I wouldn’t want to not teach either ~ I find it highly enjoyable and seeing everyone’s work and watching as the community here develops is really inspiring! Plus, I really hope that my own work improves as I teach, as it helps to reinforce the fundamentals which for me are most important. So thanks!

I would love to have a thread which is strictly devoted to TUTORIALS created by myself and others in the community who wish to post theirs. The more interaction and sharing, the better, as far as I am concerned. I have certainly learned a lot from spending time on various forums here, and I really enjoy the fact that people are courteous to one another and really seem to encourage one another in their work.

So I look forward to everyone’s participation!

~Rebeccak

#306

Really cool to see things happening and unfolding, I’m really looking forward to the progression on a cgtalk anatomy sub forum. This would really benefit everyone who wants to grow as an artist.

#307

Darktwin wrote:

>Really cool to see things happening and unfolding, I’m really looking forward to the progression on a cgtalk anatomy sub forum. This would really benefit everyone who wants to grow as an artist.

Thanks, Darktwin! I appreciate the support :slight_smile: Hopefully with more people involved in critiquing one anothers’ work, there will be a faster learning curve for everyone involved…and no one will have to wait for my crits :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#308

meh, soon 5 am, should be sleeping!

EDIT : Woho then im doing something in right direction!

#309

All artists are insomniacs :wink:

#310

I’ve really been inspired lately to pursure my drawing and to learn more and more…among other great inspirations recently this thread has given me great motivation along these lines…thank you Rebecca! and to everyone posting. I’m a newb beyond the sense of the meaning but with all the book recommendations and the C&C I read on forums like this I hope to grow a lot better…I know what you mean about the insomniac thing…ive been up late a lot since all this drawing and reading about drawing and drawing more and meditating on all that Im learning…its overwhelming…I keep a sketch book and pencil in the car now so I can practice on my lunch breaks at work…drawing the human form seems so hard a skill to master…does it get any easier? if so at what point? my 100th drawing? 1000th? 5000000? gets frustrating…but im determined :slight_smile:

Thanks again everyone for keeping this kind of thread going.

#311

Skeksi,

I’m inspired by your post! I am thrilled to hear that you are drawing more ~ you seem very determined to learn to draw! I know it’s difficult…it does get easier after about your millionth drawing :wink: but it’s always a little frustrating, so hang in there, and don’t get discouraged ~ that’s why I love these forums, folks seem to really inspire and help each other.

Thank you for your comments! :slight_smile:
~Rebeccak (busily scribbling)

#312

Some more :)…experimenting.

Sources:

http://www.uem.es/web/afd/profesores/joan_valios/biomecanica/figura3.JPG
http://www.artincontext.org/images/WOC/0000/WOC0003D.jpg
http://www.cotianet.com.br/photo/great/Images/plus03/EM94.jpg

(might want to magnify 'em a little)

#313

are ya stll gunna have ur own sessions though?

#314

FromanylanD wrote:

>Some more :)…experimenting.

Nice. These are all Muybridge, then? It’s a great idea to do gestures from his work. Also a perfect thread topic ~ what do you think? Thanks for posting these :). Were these done specifically for this thread, or were these done previously? Curiosity…

Not sure if it is just my browser or if you cut out the upper left portion ~ but I can’t see the upper left corner…

Also curious about the medium you are using…

>Sources:

http://www.uem.es/web/afd/profesore…ica/figura3.JPG
http://www.artincontext.org/images/…00/WOC0003D.jpg
http://www.cotianet.com.br/photo/gr…plus03/EM94.jpg

Great links, thank you for posting them! :slight_smile:

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NOOB wrote:

>are ya stll gunna have ur own sessions though?

I definitely plan to have something, such as a TUTORIAL thread where I post tutorials along with anyone else who wishes to contribute them…but to get things started ~ assuming this happens :slight_smile: ~ I would like to post opening tutorials on each of the threads whose TOPICS I am hoping you guys will help to generate.

Thanks for the post!
~Rebeccak

#315

Apart from us finding it a real help, I hope that you are finding that this thread is helping you too R, from your teacher point of view I hope that you’re cementing your own learning and the journey of learning to teach is just as exciting and rewarding for you.

What are your plans now that you have completed Art school?

m

#316

I finally got around to making some quick sketches. I think one of my problems is that I tend to go over and over an area too much when I am not happy with it. I think I may sketch a bunch of small and very simple line drawings on a page as mentioned earlier, just for shape and proportion. I think this could help with that. Also, I realise that the first figure’s right leg is too thin.

#317

magic man wrote:

>Apart from us finding it a real help, I hope that you are finding that this thread is helping you too…

Definitely. This helps me a great deal to learn ~ it is always great to see others’ work ~ it’s the only way you improve/grow.

>What are your plans now that you have completed Art school?

Well, I worked for a number of years (about five) for a subcontractor making CD-ROMs, using Maya, After Effects, Flash, all the basic programs like Photoshop and Illustrator, Premiere, etc. So I’ve done CD-ROM interfaces, illustration, small animations showing technical equipment, etc. ~ I’m also currently an MFA candidate in Digital Art. I am enjoying the program and have made some great friends, including a great professor who has involved me in her multimedia stage productions, for which I did some Maya animations which were projected onto a huge screen behind live actors. This was a great experience, and also just a lot of fun.

I’ve always had the desire to teach, and this has certainly been the most amazing opportunity I could imagine. I am still incredulous that so many people have expressed interest in this thread, so thank you!! I’ve had many people tell me that I should teach, and this is an incredible entrance into that world. I am greatly enjoying participating in this thread, so thank you to everyone who has contributed and stopped by :).

Currently my job entails some web-stuff (though I am a super new beginner) and a bit of graphics stuff ~ some logo, letterhead, etc. stuff at which I am not a pro. I consider myself a multimedia person, and not a graphic designer. I love graphic design, but do not have the formal training ~ tho I’d like to go back to school one day to study the discipline.

There are so many areas of interest for artists these days that it is hard to invest time in all of them. But Drawing is definitely my core passion, and I hope to maintain and grow it through this thread, and hopefully, forum. I would love to teach one day full-time ~ be it in a classroom, online, or a combination of both ~ we’ll see.

Additionally, there are some things in the works with the Website that I am excited about, and hoping will come to fruition.

Also, I am looking forward to attending this year’s SIGGRAPH conference in LA for the first time!
I haven’t been back to LA for a year or so, so it will be great to catch up with friends and just get my socks blown off by all of the amazing work that will be presented at the conference.

Thanks for the post! Really like your work, I hope you will continue to participate and contribute to the forum.

Thanks,
~Rebeccak

Sphere,

Thank you for your post! Keep going, I would suggest doing as many as possible. I like what you’ve done so far, and it looks as though you’ve already critiqued a bit about your own drawings, so I would continue to look at them critically, and either trace over them (be it with tracing paper or in Photoshop) to reinforce the core concepts discussed in this thread.

Thanks for your post!

~Rebeccak

#318

danielkenobi,

~finally got a chance to review your post! :slight_smile: so here goes…

A good effort so far! I think you’ve done a good job of finding the central axis and of placing forms relatively accurately around that axis. I think the upper torso is pretty good, you’ve established the general shape of it well, and I can tell that the pecs don’t just float, but rather sit on top of the rib cage.

I would recommend looking at post #264 by FromanylanD as a good example of fitting several small images on a sheet ~ lots more practice this way :slight_smile: and the forms are controllable. He also provided some good links for reference to work from:

Source #1: http://figuredrawings.com/artistsmodel2.html (nudity)
Source #2: http://figuredrawings.com/1116JOHN%20EVERARD7.jpg (nudity)

~Hope this helps!
~Rebeccak

#319

Somhairle,

~finally got to review your work! I really like your gestures, I hope you continue to post and participate :slight_smile:


I would just suggest keeping everything as loose and as structured as possible ~ making sure that all your lines connect to describe the next set of forms. It’s important to describe the whole of the head and the neck to get it to connect properly to the body.

As I believe you did your work in Photoshop, I would even recommend doing what I did in the review ~ tracing and revising your own work ~ this is great practice, and helps to reinforce those dynamic principles of using curves and an exaggerated flow of lines to achieve expressiveness in drawing.

After school, I was really dissatisfied with my drawings, and went over the majority of them with tracing paper doing just that. It really helped!

Thanks for your posts!

~Rebeccak

#320

I’m finding this thread remarkably helpful. I’ve been working on understanding the approach Rebecca outlined and I feel it’s already improved my drawing significantly. Here’s the latest thing I’ve come up with. Any crits/advice?

Rebecca, do you have any advice for feet? I am still having a lot of trouble getting the flow of them to look right. Thanks! :slight_smile: