Here are some more gesture drawings I have done tonight. I have been doing alot, but still need to find a live model so I can practice the real deal! These are all from photos. The hands on the first sketch are awful. I really need to work on hands more. I have Burne Hogarth’s Dynamic Hands books. It is great, so overwhelming. The amount of details he squeezes into his hand sketches is staggering. Having alot of fun! 
Oh and a quick question to the group. I was checking out Glen Vilppu’s site and his stuff is great! Has anyone ever watched any of his dvds? Are they worth checking out?
Thanks!
Travis
well… i’m doing mostly 3d modeling but i’m infact a little bit in all areas of 3d… looking forward to get more into character drawing and animation… i think that 2d art training is not essential for doing 3d but would certainly help… a great deal if you ask me… perhaps more in animation (because you would practice your senses to pose characters in natural postures) but would be useful in other areas as well (texture painting for example)…
it depends on kind of person you are and what seems to fit you best… some people are perfectly comfortable with starting a character from a scratch in 3d and make up things as they go… although this may be fun and creative way to work it’s not always applicable in the industry because client usualy wants to see where it’s going and not always able to understand crude low polygonal character proportions blocks…
but if you put all that on side… for my personal work i would like to be able to conceptualize on paper and then go for 3d modeling part… 3d tends to be time consumive and too precise (sometimes limited)… with drawings you can do what ever you want, they take away less time, you don’t have to worry about technical issues, they are more suggestive (which opens more doors in creative process)… tools are a lot cheaper and you can bring them with you :)… all in all… i can’t wait to get better at it!
hi rebeccak, first of all want to say you are doing a great think, and your drawings are awsome! also the tutorial you wrote about the stages of capturing a figure are great, going to start it soon.
have a question though- do you want us to draw the figure from someone who models for us (just posing for couple of minutes) or from our minds?
I appologize if question is terribly idiotic.
Wow, thanks everyone for your great posts! These are starting to look like gesture drawings, so that is great!
Spirit Walker wrote:
>have a question though- do you want us to draw the figure from someone who models for us (just posing for couple of minutes) or from our minds? I appologize if question is terribly idiotic.
This is NOT an idiotic question! Happy to see your post! I think it’s best to either draw from LIFE or to draw from REFERENCE. Realizing that not everyone can get to a figure drawing session, I think it’s fine to use reference. FromanylanD provided these great links to sources of drawing Reference:
Source #1: http://figuredrawings.com/artistsmodel2.html (nudity)
Source #2: http://figuredrawings.com/1116JOHN%20EVERARD7.jpg (nudity)
Thanks!
~Rebeccak
Mirwen,
I finally got the chance to review your post. Thank you for your diligence and interest in this thread! I think you posted a really nice set of gestures. The recommendation that I would have is:
SIMPLIFY.
Here are the results:
These are only suggestions. No matter how you choose to draw, find the long, clean lines within the form and SIMPLIFY forms. I think you have made a great effort in that direction. We’ll work later on using curves and circular forms (circles) to add life and reality to your drawings.
Definitely continue to draw like this ~ several sketches to a page is really nice, and gives you a ton of practice. And thank you for drawing gestures
Thanks for your posts, participation, and patience! I look forward to more of your posts!
~Rebeccak
Rebecca i’ve been looking over the thread an It seems the main problem people are having are proportions,arms too long,legs to short,head too small etc. maybe u’d like to give an insight on that.
NOOB wrote:
>Rebecca i’ve been looking over the thread an It seems the main problem people are having are proportions,arms too long,legs to short,head too small etc. maybe u’d like to give an insight on that.
Great suggestion, NOOB! I want to cover each topic one at a time, but here is a preview:
From “Artistic Anatomy” by Dr. Paul Richer ~ a book I highly recommend.
Some general principles in brief:
The adult human figure is approximately 7.5 heads tall, and can be sectioned off in “head” units.
The eyes fall in the middle of the face - they are not higher up in the face as people believe.
The distance between the base of the chin and the pit of the neck is approximately 1/4 head.
The pectoralis muscles (pecs) are about 3/4 head high.
The entire torso (including the pecs) is approximately 2.5 heads high.
The top of the femur (upper leg bone) to the base of the foot is approximately 4 heads high.
The upper leg measures two heads high ~ the lower leg measures 2 heads high as well.
The upper arm (minus the shoulder), lower arm, and hand are each about a head high.
Surprisingly, the hand is about the size of the face.
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Hope this helps for now. We will go more in depth into proportion in a later lesson.
Thanks for the suggestion!
~Rebeccak
yeh i thought just a lil insight on proportion cud help with forming the gesture is all.
btw u did draw that right? cos jeez,its looks like it came straight outta a professional book or sumthin
hint
NOOB wrote:
>btw u did draw that right? cos jeez,its looks like it came straight outta a professional book or sumthin
Nope, this diagram is from “Artistic Anatomy” by Dr. Paul Richer. It is an excellent resource book which I mentioned at or near the top of my recommended book list in post #9. I just added all the purple and yellow boxes to show where the head unit measurements come in more clearly…
No, I wish I could bust that drawing out in under 3 minutes, but it’s just not the case 
Thanks for your post!
~Rebeccak
sigh
u shudda just sed yes…work with me here,i’m trying to get u a book deal.
hehe.
ok i’m gunna stop ruining ur thread now…seeya.
RebeccaK:Hey! Thank you very much for your appreciation, I really appreciate it:) And thank’s for your analysis as well. It is great! I can’t find words to express how you made me glad.
(But if I do any troubles to anybody… tell me):curious:
There are several new sketches (I’ve chosen only 3 this time from more than 18) and the big one - it has taken more than two minutes to finish it. I can’t choose one best from all. Perhapes nex time?
about the three skatches: I am not sure if they are simple enough. Should I continue this way or try something like FromanylanD did (I mean sketching)?
And thank’s for not torturing internationally
FromanylanD:hey man, excellent sketches! And thank’s for the link.
layer01: oh come on Australian dude Hey! I am just reading book about Australia (almost Australia) Terry Pratchett - The Last continent - it’s really funny:wavey:
Okey I am a newbie at anatomy so i got myself two anatomy books but I really like this thread… this was made in 10 minutes in PS drawn from ref…
I really appriciate critique
http://img274.imageshack.us/my.php?image=womansitting0dr.jpg
EDIT: I Find it really hard to follow that “head messurment” As soon as they are sitting hunched or something, its real hard
Hi Rebecca,
Well, after college I had a massive roll of classical drawings/paintings (a LOT of pieces from 10 mins to 6 hours) but in my first work experience just before the end of college, someone took the liberty to incinerate them while I was on holiday (we usually left a lot of work at the studio), I never received an apology or anything (they know who they are). Enough of that story!.. Some of the traditional pieces on my site are from the last years in college and were in an A4 sketch book, etc that I had at home.
So now I’m trying to recreate my portfolio, but its very hard when you’re doing other things. And now Im trying to focus on that. So yes, I’m here like some others and trying to get way back to basics and keep improving…we are always learning!
Thanks for the comments!
REVIEW (permited): Kitami’s “woman sitting” (Post #294)
You had some nice lines on the legs. try to keep that looseness in your gestures.
Like Rebecca said before, try not to get the details so much, the hair, eyebrows, and other smaller parts in gestures is not as important as the “feeling” of the piece.
try not to “outline” the body so much, try to see through the body in 3d - imagine the cylinders/shapes connected and intangled in each other.
also as rebecca mentioned, try to “push” the form to explain it better! like you have on HER right leg. try to show the direction of the pieces (head, rib cage, pelvis, etc). Try making your images with one continous line that rarely breaks - this helps to loosen up how you perceive the model - for example, look at the way I drew HER right breast, the line continues through her ribcage shape. it may not be 100% accurate, but it gives a better feeling to that area.
Try not to use the basic airbrush for shading in gestures, its faster yes, but it doesn’t help to delineate the image better…its just adding “fluff” to the image.
Everyone: Have a search for Glen Keane’s gestures (One of THE best Disney animators), he has some really beautiful pieces.
Another great artist is HEINRICH KLEY… his dancing elephants are a great inspiration.
Thank you, those were some great tips, I will do my best to think bout them while drawing!
Thanks Ill get something up today also. I really liked the proportions of the human body guide.
Mirwen wrote:
>RebeccaK:Hey! Thank you very much for your appreciation, I really appreciate it:) And thank’s for your analysis as well. It is great! I can’t find words to express how you made me glad.
No problem! I’m glad you found them useful! I was happy to finally get to your posts :).
>about the three skatches: I am not sure if they are simple enough. Should I continue this way or try something like FromanylanD did (I mean sketching)?
I think that FromanylanD has the right approach in terms of looseness. In truth I think the looseness and accuracy shown in his gesture drawings is a result of a lot of PRACTICE. If you draw daily, you will get better. Unfortunately, there are no shortcuts to improving one’s drawing abilities!
>And thank’s for not torturing internationally
Sorry, I haven’t had time to fix this, but I will try to soon
Kitami wrote:
>Okey I am a newbie at anatomy so i got myself two anatomy books but I really like this thread…
Welcome to the thread! Thanks for posting! I hope you get a lot out of this Thank you for posting!
Somhairle wrote:
>Well, after college I had a massive roll of classical drawings/paintings but in my first work experience just before the end of college, someone took the liberty to incinerate them while I was on holiday (we usually left a lot of work at the studio…So now I’m trying to recreate my portfolio, but its very hard when you’re doing other things.
I am SO sorry to hear that. I had a good friend in college whose drawings were AMAZING, and her car was stolen with all of her best drawings in the trunk. She missed the drawings more than the car…I truly hope this thread helps you to rebuild your portfolio…it’s more encouraging when there are others doing the same thing.
>And now Im trying to focus on that. So yes, I’m here like some others and trying to get way back to basics and keep improving…we are always learning!
Awesome! I agree :).
>Like Rebecca said before, try not to get the details so much, the hair, eyebrows, and other smaller parts in gestures is not as important as the “feeling” of the piece.
Somhairle, thank you for the great review you did for Kitami! I am thrilled to see you do this! Please do this for others if you have the time I’m sure it will be appreciated!
>Everyone: Have a search for Glen Keane’s gestures (One of THE best Disney animators), he has some really beautiful pieces…(and the artist) HEINRICH KLEY… his dancing elephants are a great inspiration.
Thanks for these recommendations!
~Rebeccak
Desp#2/Rog wrote:
>I really liked the proportions of the human body guide.
Let me know what kinds of things you guys are interested in learning, and I will try my best to incorporate them into the lesson.
Thanks for your posts, everyone!
I will get some more reviews up tomorrow
~Rebeccak
[color=black]Here is my latest. tug of rope. I should have done the left have more of an arc.[/color]
I am pretty interested in action poses. and strains. I really need work on those. It is really hard to give a feel of movement with or strain with a picture.
Ill try to help when ever I can with crits but I do not think I am really to that level.
