Did another sketch, it took me a bit longer than the “2 minutes tho”
I was trying to get to grips with what Rebecca told me earlier. Some of it worked, some of it didn’t I think. Will keep trying - I can see in her sketches what she means!
There is some really inspirational stuff on this thread - keep it up everyone! :thumbsup:
[img]http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/938/contequicksketchalt7tw.gif[/img]Mirwen wrote:
>The picture I drew above shows, what happens, when you strike on parts between blue lines. Your defender is like the man from my picture, that is last. Notice, that belly does different movemnent. I do no want to look like a wise old man (I am 19) I just wanted to help.
Mirwen, thanks for posting this! I mentioned in a previous post that it is great to see other people in this thread posting helpful hints besides me ~ ultimately, you will learn the most from these guys, as they continue to post their work!
Keep offering advice and suggestions, this is not a thread where I’m the only person who can suggest changes. You did a nice drawing of the action of the figure, and since you’re an expert in martial arts, I am sure you can offer us a lot of advice about human movement!
Thanks for the posts 
~Rebeccak
Maybe a minute each...longer for the large one.
I draw from life as often as possible, but didn't have a chance this week.
Source #1: [http://figuredrawings.com/artistsmodel2.html](http://figuredrawings.com/artistsmodel2.html) (nudity)
Source #2: [http://figuredrawings.com/1116JOHN%20EVERARD7.jpg](http://figuredrawings.com/1116JOHN%20EVERARD7.jpg) (nudity)
PS: I think this is a great thread (thanks for doing this!), but honestly, I don’t consider the majority of these drawings gestures. If you feel the same way Rebecca, I wouldn’t hesitate to try to keep us on topic.
EDIT: now hosting the image on my site…
Darktwin,
Comments: this is a strong drawing you posted ~ it’s very well-structured and clearly executed. I like the way you clearly separate the upper from the lower torso, and the way the surface forms appear to be built on top of a structure instead of just floating.
Crits: I would say he needs more shoulder width and more substance to his arm. HIS left leg needs to be less curved, because the femur (upper leg bone) is relatively straight. I would begin to suggest his facial features, if only in a loose, gestural way - no eyelashes or tiny details, but just a central axis and the axis of the brow, nose, lips, and eyes.
As FromanylanD wrote in his post, this is not a gesture drawing. Right now, I am just excited to see that people are posting their work, but for the sake of having a unified thread, I will be asking that folks stay on topic for the next lesson ~ and that is only because I so strongly believe in the underlying fundamentals of drawing, though they may seem basic.
FUNDAMENTALS are the most important, and I see you have a grasp of the basics…but I ask that you not worry about doing “simple” work and go back to some of the really basic stuff to reinforce what you already know.
Having said that, thanks for the post! Keep up the good work!
FromanylanD wrote:
> …honestly, I don’t consider the majority of these drawings gestures. If you feel the same way Rebecca, I wouldn’t hesitate to try to keep us on topic.
I agree with what you say, that a lot of drawings people are posting are not gestures. Hmm, it’s something I’m going to try to address more on the next topic, which I think is important. But for the time being I will continue to review what people are posting ~ I am happy that people are participating, but on the next topic I will try to be more strict.
Thanks for posting, guys!
~Rebeccak
FromanylanD,
These are really nice GESTURE drawings ~ thank you. These are very sensitively executed and show the great benefit of drawing OFTEN.
Clearly you draw a lot. What is your background and training?
Thank you for posting these.
~Rebeccak
FromanylanD posted these great LINKS:
Source #1: http://figuredrawings.com/artistsmodel2.html (nudity)
Source #2: http://figuredrawings.com/1116JOHN%20EVERARD7.jpg (nudity)
Darktwin,
Comments: this is a strong drawing you posted ~ it’s very well-structured and clearly executed. I like the way you clearly separate the upper from the lower torso, and the way the surface forms appear to be built on top of a structure instead of just floating.
Crits: I would say he needs more shoulder width and more substance to his arm. HIS left leg needs to be less curved, because the femur (upper leg bone) is relatively straight. I would begin to suggest his facial features, if only in a loose, gestural way - no eyelashes or tiny details, but just a central axis and the axis of the brow, nose, lips, and eyes.
As FromanylanD wrote in his post, this is not a gesture drawing. Right now, I am just excited to see that people are posting their work, but for the sake of having a unified thread, I will be asking that folks stay on topic for the next lesson ~ and that is only because I so strongly believe in the underlying fundamentals of drawing, though they may seem basic.
FUNDAMENTALS are the most important, and I see you have a grasp of the basics…but I ask that you not worry about doing “simple” work and go back to some of the really basic stuff to reinforce what you already know.
Having said that, thanks for the post! Keep up the good work!
FromanylanD wrote:
> …honestly, I don’t consider the majority of these drawings gestures. If you feel the same way Rebecca, I wouldn’t hesitate to try to keep us on topic.I agree with what you say, that a lot of drawings people are posting are not gestures. Hmm, it’s something I’m going to try to address more on the next topic, which I think is important. But for the time being I will continue to review what people are posting ~ I am happy that people are participating, but on the next topic I will try to be more strict.
Thanks for posting, guys!
~Rebeccak
Thank you very much for the feedback Rebecca, I’m really learning alot from this thread and the visual critiques you’ve shared with others. Yeah I do agree that this is not a gesture drawing, its more of an anatomy study, I did get carried away and I should know better, but I couldn’t resist. I’ll stay within the guidelines in the future. and thanks again for the crit.
I’ve drawn for as long as I can remember and often, but don’t have much of a background, as I just turned 16. I go to local life drawing sessions (not classes), but haven’t had much instruction.
Ah…the anagram.
FromanylanD wrote:
>I’ve drawn for as long as I can remember and often, but don’t have much of a background, as I just turned 16. I go to local life drawing sessions (not classes), but haven’t had much instruction.
So you’re the daily animator? My friend is a great fan of yours ~ I look forward to your posts. Tell me, what would you like to learn most here?
~Rebeccak
Tell me, what would you like to learn most here?
Gesture drawing. I'd like to loosen up...whenever I try really loose, flowing gestures, they suck...I'll post some of those :D
I’d also like to settle on a workflow (you’ll probably say that you don’t have to, but I’m restless, I can’t stick to one method for more than a few drawings). Or at least develop one I’m comfortable with…maybe that sounds strange, but I’m not really comfortable with any one method or, even more so, mindset.
So you’re the daily animator? My friend is a great fan of yours
That hurts…I really should have stuck with those.
FromanylanD wrote:
>Gesture drawing. I’d like to loosen up…whenever I try really loose, flowing gestures, they suck…
>I’d also like to settle on a workflow (you’ll probably say that you don’t have to, but I’m restless, I can’t stick to one method for more than a few drawings). Or at least develop one I’m comfortable with…maybe that sounds strange, but I’m not really comfortable with any one method or, even more so, mindset.
Maybe you could post examples of each of the methods which you’ve tried…and describe a bit about the method. This would help me know where you’re coming from…are you a fan of Vilppu? Curiosity…
On a sidebar, something I’d like to open to discussion ~ what is your (FromanylanD’s and everyone’s) opinion on the role of 2D art training, specifically, figurative drawing, in the 3D world and industry? Have discussed this topic a lot amongst friends, and am curious to know what others think…
~Rebeccak
Somhairle,
Speaking of learning wish lists, I looked at your Website, very nice! ~And clearly you don’t need to learn anything from me in terms of character design / drawing ~ are you interested in drawing sometimes in a more classical style? Curiosity…
~Still scratching my head for a critique of your drawing…
PS ~ please share your expertise with others
~Rebeccak
The lower one I had loads of trouble getting rightish mostly because of the angle. My daily drawings
Everyone,
I’d like to emphasize that I am not the only person “permitted” on this thread to give feeback…for those of you with more experience, please offer comments and critiques when people post their work, so long as your comments are constructive ~ so far, everyones’ have been ~ thank you!
RULES FOR CORRECTING OTHERS’ DRAWINGS:
[color=cyan]EDIT: I would recommend the following: IF YOU DO NOT MIND OTHERS CRITIQUING YOUR WORK AND DOING DRAW-OVERS ON YOUR DRAWINGS, STATE THIS ON YOUR POST, in other words write[color=white]: [/color]“I do not mind others’ critique/draw-overs of my drawings”.
CAVEAT: However, if NOTHING is stated on your original post of your drawing, we will assume that permission has been granted by the artist to do a critique/redraw of your work. So, if a re-draw/draw-over of your work really bugs you, then STATE: DO NOT DO A DRAW-OVER OF MY WORK on your original post.
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I’m sure in most cases that people will be more than happy to receive advice and suggestions, as there are far more drawings here than I can review and revise single-handedly.
PLEASE BE COURTEOUS when making corrections, and respect the feelings of the artist whose work you are correcting or for which you are making suggestions.
I think that having more experienced participants ~ you know who you are ~ help out by reviewing peoples’ work and offering suggestions will definitely strengthen this thread and the learning curves of others as well as your own.
Thank You! Keep up the good work!
~Rebeccak
Go Desp#2/Rog!
Definitely inspiring that you’re posting daily! We need more like you!
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Rebeccak
Hi Rebecca and participants of the thread:
thanks a lot for taking the time to put up a thread like this. I’ll try to participate as often as i can. Gladly today i got time off work and could begin sketching poses, this is the one i liked the best, but there’s something odd still:
the left leg was on an theoretically akward angle, it was very hard for me to try to draw what i was seeing rather what i thought was right. but still looks strange. liked the pose for practicing different rotation on torax and pelvis. still can’t get good lines with the wacom, but don’t have a scanner for paper linework… guess i’m out of training, it’s been months since my last drawing :(.
Ok, hope you’re all ok.
Salut!
Sir Patroclo
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That would take up another 19 pages :)...assume I've tried most basic approaches and
everything inbetween...just make me draw like [this :scream:](http://www.vilppustudio.com/tone/wpe14166.gif) I probably need to spend time exploring one technique at a time, instead of ditching a method (only to come back to it later) after it produces a dissatisfactory drawing. I think I'll do that, between your threads and The Natural Way to Draw (I just got it, what's your opinion of the book?).
Vilppu’s great…not sure if I’ve seen enough of his work to consider myself a fan…also not crazy about the paintings on his site.
EDIT: http://www.williamwhitaker.com/
This guy’s also incredible, in terms of pure realism (and prolificness!), but completely different…
Hard to say from my perspective…for character animation, I’d say figure drawing is probably the most important and is directly applicable. How important? Hard to say…it’s definitely not essential. They’re two seperate mediums.
