I don’t know much about anytomy, but I think I know something about reactions of human body. Because I attend martial-arts (Ju-Jutsu) trainings three times a week. And I am doing this more than for six years. I dare to say, that I know, what happens, when you strike on your opponent from some direction or on certain part of his body. I like your picture, and Rebbeca did an excellent specification of the first attacker. However I would like to turn your sight on the defender (or the beaten one:)) The picture I drew above shows, what happens, when you strike on parts between blue lines. Your defender is like the man from my picture, that is last. Notice, that belly does different movemnent.
I do no want to look like a wise old man (I am 19) I just wanted to help.:sad:
Rebecca Kimmel's Anatomy Review 001: GESTURE
awesome thread, having no art background, its nice for me to see this 
been doing some this afternoon, good fun Keep up the good work everyone, and of course rebecca 
Very interesting thread
this may be out of my bounds to say, but to the dude who said id like a review, patience is a virtue 
that seemed very rude to me, seeing tho this is something rebecca is doing from the goodness of her heart And if you look at the start, she said she would only do 4, which she has already surpassed i believe
Anyway, crashing on, good job everyone, keep it up!
anim_ziggy,
finally! Your review: ~thanks for posting!
Comments: I like that you are tackling difficult poses, this shows initiative, and surprisingly, difficult poses are more easy to do than supposedly easy poses where there is relatively little action ~ the reason is because when you look at a difficult pose, eg, one that is twisted or bent etc., you actually have to observe more closely because you do not have any preconceived ideas about the pose.
Crits: I would focus less on shading than on achieving form purely through drawing lines, using opposing-, or counter-, curves to delineate the various aspects of the figure. If you do use shading, make sure to always shade in the direction of the form ~ your shading must be as curved in some instances as the exterior lines of your gesture drawing ~ because straight lines do nothing but flatten a figure out and destroy whatever you’ve worked to achieve through exterior line work.
Practice drawing several loose sketches of random organic matter ~ it does not need to look like anything ~ it can basically resemble a branch, because much like a branch, the human figure is twisted and contorted and composed entirely of circles and curves.
Hope this helps, and I’m looking forward to your posts!
~Rebeccak
NoirQ wrote:
>this may be out of my bounds to say, but to the dude who said id like a review, patience is a virtue that seemed very rude to me…
Meh, no worries, I encouraged NOOB to post, and then promptly got swamped by great images to review ~ so it’s all good! NOOB, if you’re out there, I promise to get to it today. But thanks for the compliments, NoirQ, and I hope to see you posting soon!
~Rebeccak
NOir Q,was u referring to me or anim_ziggy?
if me ,i was really not being serious,theres like 40 pics for review.
i respect the time shez puttin into all this.
don’t hate NOOB!
runs
p.s. rebecca,i had a great idea,that maybe u shud contact ballistic publishing and get an anatomy book made?
NOOB wrote:
> don’t hate NOOB! runs
no worries, no one’s hating anyone on this thread 
so it’s all good.
> p.s. rebacca,i had a great idea,that maybe u shud contact ballistic publishing and get an anatomy book made?
Woo! Cool idea…thanks for the suggestion!
I’ve asked about the possibility of turning this thread into a forum under the WIP/Critique: 2D, Illustrations and Concept Art Forum ~ do you think there would be enough support for this? I think it would be great to have a lot of tutorials in one place, according to different categories ~ what do you think? I’d be happy to moderate
~Rebeccak
ofcourse,i think everyone wud support that idea.anatomy is the most diffucult to learn in the art world ,wud be great.
coughand then u cud release the book and make big cash and open ur on school.cough
who sed that
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It will be allot of work for u though…phew!
Woo! I think NOOB could be my marketing director
I’m going to focus on getting your review done in the meantime!
~Rebeccak
NOOB,
Ok, finally done…this is still a bit in progress, but I have just made a few minor suggestions for your piece. Overall I would say you’ve done a great job of coming up with this out of imagination ~ only a few tiny modifications might improve it.
Comments: Great layout and sense of space ~ I never would have come up with this kind of composition, but its definitely pretty decent! Great rendering of the female head so far. Her proportions are very good.
Crits: I think that his head in relationship to his body and to the female in the piece is too small, and too far back in the picture relative to his body. I sketched in some legs ~ not sure if this is where you want them to go, but I would suggest figuring out where the two figures are placed in relation to each other before rendering, or you could get into trouble if the pose doesn’t work out the way you had thought in the beginning. I would make the background more dynamic, using a lot of diagonal lines and curves to really play up the dynamism of the poses.
Good work so far, looking forward to seeing the finished piece!
~Rebeccak
ziggy, i did not realise you had said anything i like your piece, very interesting
i think a forum itself would be a good idea, by the example of this thread, there’s plenty of interest in it and would make looking for new threads/old threads when it gets to that stage all that bit easier
Keep up the good work
wow! thanks so much this is a great help.
the man and woman are actually merged with the creature,so my intention was,not to give em legs at all,but now i’ve changed my mind,i have a great idea.
i got a crap load of things to fix.thanks for giving me an idea of the guys arms,i was having issues with them especially!
yeh the background is coming along exactly how u suggested.
EXCELLENT! thanks allot! i shud finish this sumtime next week.
btw,whats ur next session gunna be about?
edit: ur crit is still in-progress? i’d be happy to hear anything u have to say.
edit2: oh my bad,u meant my work was still in progress…heheh punches self
I agree a new area would be great I think it has enough intrest to be possible. Plus it would help greatly to have people who do life drawings to pass by and post some works in for some extra help.
NOOB wrote:
>wow! thanks so much this is a great help.
No problem! I’m glad to help out ~ it’s so cool to see the variety of work people do, things I am not creative enough to imagine! Keep it going!
>btw,whats ur next session gunna be about?
The next session is going to focus more on using Opposing Curves and Overlapping Shapes to create form. Kind of similar to what I was demonstrating in Post 211, but much more in-depth. Gradually we’ll build up to really studying Anatomy, but it’s important to first conquer some of the more abstract concepts about representing the figure.
Desp#2/Rog wrote:
>I agree a new area would be great I think it has enough intrest to be possible. Plus it would help greatly to have people who do life drawings to pass by and post some works in for some extra help.
Cool! I really hope so ~ I think it is an area that would greatly benefit from in terms of having people swap tutorials, share drawings, etc. It wouldn’t be just me critiquing stuff, but like the Daily Sketch Forum, where people just share their work and get comments and suggestions. Roberto is very creative with that forum…perhaps he can help out with making a new Artistic Anatomy / Figurative Drawing forum as much fun…
NoirQ wrote:
>i think a forum itself would be a good idea, by the example of this thread, there’s plenty of interest in it and would make looking for new threads/old threads when it gets to that stage all that bit easier
Thanks for the support, NoirQ! I think it would be a great way for people to learn from each other, as they are doing here and all over CGTalk
~Rebeccak
i just stopped by to say hi and to put in another vote to turn this thread into forum… man, this is growing FAST… i mean… i didn’t follow the thread for 2 days and had quite a bit catching up to do
i plan to join you guys as soon as i get some free time… excellent idea this forum is… thanks a bunch rebecca!
really looking foward to ur next session,the curved rule u applied looked very interesting.
i really hope u can handle getting through 10billion reviews in this session.haha
Wud u mind posting some of YOUR gesture sketches u have lying around on ur hard drive?,they could be a great inspiration for the rest of us.
peekoot and NOOB,
Thanks for your posts! Will try to post some more gestures later today. Hmm…10 billion sketches…how many is that a day? Yikes!!
Nah, that’s why I think it would be better to have a more open forum, like most of the others on CGTalk. I’d be happy to do reviews and things if people ask ~ that would be cool! I’ll have to graft another arm…hmm…stem cells!
~Rebeccak
I agree with the open forum idea as well. :bounce:
Considering how many posts are writen here today its going to be impossible for rebecca to critique everything. With this much work it would be to easy for a kind gesture like this thread to become a burdain.
If some more experienced people like magicman and a couple of other guys (and girls) would throw in a couple of critiques of their own it would make things run better.
I’m sure their advice would be quite helpfull as well at least to me it would.
MagicRubber wrote:
>I agree with the open forum idea as well. :bounce:
Considering how many posts are writen here today its going to be impossible for rebecca to critique everything. With this much work it would be to easy for a kind gesture like this thread to become a burdain.
If some more experienced people like magicman and a couple of other guys (and girls) would throw in a couple of critiques of their own it would make things run better.
I’m sure their advice would be quite helpfull as well at least to me it would.
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~Absolutely. While I will be posting the various lessons from week to week, anyone is free to jump in and offer suggestions and solutions to various figurative drawing problems and dilemmas. I do not want the thread to get out of hand ~ eg, people working on different kinds of lessons at different times, as it breaks up the unity and flow ~ but I have absolutely no problem with other folks doing draw-overs on peoples’ submitted works, so long as that is okay with them.
Cool, I hope this thread continues to grow!
~Rebeccak
kalorlo,
finally able to review your work
I think you’re doing very well, thanks for the posts! My review is basically to show another way to delineate / show structure:
I’m not suggesting you have to draw this way, this is more or less just a demo to show another way of thinking about form.
Comments: I like the way you handle the media, the brushstrokes look confident ~ I think they just require a little more structure behind them. I think you’re careful of your axes, which is good, and are considering where it is that you will place lines to delineate form. I think you’ll do well as the exercises get tougher.
Crits: Watch the way the head attaches to the next and the neck to the body ~ make lines to show their connection, and if these lines don’t make sense, then something is wrong with the drawing. For example, in the leftmost drawing, the head is too far to his right (our left).
Thanks for your posts! Keep up the good work!
~Rebeccak