Poster Drawings By 11th Door

#61

What’s going on, Hong? :slight_smile: It’s a reunion tour, lol! :scream:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#62

Hey everyone,

Thanks for all your input and compliments.

Digitalputty, (cool name by the way :slight_smile: ) I suppose the reason that the one you pointed out looks familiar is that the drawing is pretty darn generic in character (I actually have a pretty generic face, unfortunately, and I didn’t push any character into it.) That coupled with having been a student of Hogarth and, since his imagery is everywhere, it seems likely that it resembles his generic head model that is prevelant in all of his books. That, or perhaps someone similar with a similar generic model. None of the drawings are particularly pushed in terms of character or pose. I am glad you like them though.

HONG, I can’t wait to reconnect, Man. Yeah, I am taking a break from teaching to try to actually make some art again. I have been inactive for the last 3 years in terms of creation, spending my time trying to help students make their improvements. And so, like so many teachers, I fell into disrepair, and got seriously rusty in terms of making anything myself. I became a teacher instead of an artist, which prompted me to leave teaching to pursue some unfulfilled dreams. I decided that it was time to go digital finally and to take a chance at getting a industry job. It is really what I have wanted to do. If you have some time I would love to get together. We had some fun times at ACCD and you were always a great help to me. I’ve heard you’ve done well. I’ll send you an email ASAP.

Pixelstalk, I will try to find some photos that I took during the making of one of the Anatomy drawings. I’m not even sure I still have them but if I do I will post a tutorial on Rebecca’s Anatomy Forum. I don’t think there will be much to learn there but I will do it anyway if I have the shots. My process really isn’t anything special compared to some of the people on this site, but it is an honor to be asked. If I can’t find the shots, I may do another drawing of a Hand or lower leg with foot. If I do I will document that one fully and post it. That may take me awhile though, Sorry. :hmm:

Later All,

Kyle

P.S. Thank you, Rebecca, for all your help and support.

#63

Very nice works thanks for posting them. You should do a book:)

#64

I love it…
Definitevely looks like bursn Hogarth, who’s I love…

#65

Simply great…its gonna be an awesome study for a lot of people…gr8 style too…:thumbsup:

#66

Kyle thanks for making these resources available. They really help me with my students. It feels good drawing again doesn’t it? We’ve gotten the Open Workshop started and we’re going to continue it next quarter, but I don’t need to enumerate the obstacles we’re dealing with.

Makes me want to do some anatomy studies of my own…

Looking forward to October.

#67

I should say thank you for your posters. It is useful to me. I like drawing but don’t have enough knowledge about it, (Drawing is only my interesting, I have never study it.) so I see I will learn more from your posters.
I consider it is the best poster for beginner like me.:thumbsup:

#68

Thank you very much for porting them. They are very nice works 11th Door . I agree you should do a book :thumbsup:

#69

ThanX Kyle, it’s really usefull:love:

#70

Kyle, I heard you were coming out to Vegas, You plan on teaching out here when you come out here???

#71

Hey beelow,

Sheff said you were one of the hard workers out there at the school. It is good to hear because so many don’t take the education seriously enough. My wife and I will be coming out in the middle of October during the weekend to visit Sheff and his wife. I will pprobably be at the school for the Saturday workshop that is starting up. If Sheff wants me to, I could bring the original posters and do a demo or something. I’ll have him let you know what is up closer to the date.

Later,

Kyle

#72

@11th Door

I almost forgot to say thank you.
It's really nice to have an idea of how you achieve your inspiring results.
So you work from both a mirror and printed reference when it comes to 
muscle studies :)

I was wondering if there was maybe a plastic model for these,
since skeletons seem to be sometimes available.
So the days of dissecting corpses must have ended in the Renaissance?

Actually I remember this guy in our local class that went to medical school 
and apparently did it, or so the rumour was.

Actually I was only 17 and just didn’t have the guts (or stomach) lol

I'll have to look at the Hogarth books someday :)

Hope we get a chance to see your digital work someday.
Thanks again.

#73

Hey Spin99,

Back in my days as a Teachers Aid at Art Center, I used to go with the students every term to view cadavers at USC medical school. I probably went 20 times so I definitely picked up knowledge there. I don’t own a plastic skeleton at this time but It would have come in handy and I think they are a good buy if you get a good quality one.

I recently met a guy at Comic Con in San Diego that has an amazing half sized anatomy model. The casts run between $200-$400 I think depending on the kind you want. I will probably get one some day. I have sculpted anatomy models in the past but never molded or cast them. I just don’t have the time or money right now to go through the process. Who knows, maybe one day.

later,

Kyle

#74

@ [b]11th Door

[/b]Hi again I updated above, but I’m really glad about your reply.
Feeling better now, pheww…

I suppose with good relations one could also talk Medical school
into letting one do a cast (?) I actually just lost contact.
It’s probably not that easy casting something like that as well :slight_smile:

Any case it seems books are much easier, and surely doing the job.
I can still just imagine the smell :argh:

#75

One thing I noticed when viewing the cadavers is that, since these are students doing the disections, the cadavers are not always so… clean :argh: :argh: :argh:

It would be very hard to cast from as far as I can tell.

As far as my digital work, I am probably the last person on this site that you would want to see their digital work. I just haven’t gotten the hang of it yet. I hope in about a year to be making something worthwhile but in the meantime I will be as active of a CGTalk member as I possibly can. :slight_smile: Even if that means posting bad work and getting reamed by everyone.

Peace,

Kyle

#76

tnx for posting those images, greeeeat work! and tnx for taking time to answer so nicly to people’s question’s, we all have such benefit from your knowledge!

#77

Hey these are awesome 11th door, not only great ref about to be copied to my hdd.

But also a very effictive demostration of the effect of shading techniques, I noticed you had some very sharp edges in the cast shadows where the edges were almost outlined instead of gradiating towards bounced light, I noticed it a while bakc in a happy accident of mine. These will be carefully scrutinised and torn apart so to say. Big thanks and keep working, I’m profoundly eager to see your future digital works, should be very beautiful work. :slight_smile:

#78

Hey jmBoekestein, thanks for posting here. I miss spending time with you all in the DSG but things have been too busy lately and I haven’t even been able to start the new Challenge yet. :banghead:

You’ve got a good eye. Yeah, in more graphic work, I like the hard line at the edge of the cast shadow to really separate it from the core shadows in the picture. I think you have to be more careful with it in realistic works but it still seems to work well and makes your forms more solid. It is a trick of J.C. Leyendecker, my all time favorite artist.

As for my digital works, I hope to get better at that by focusing on it this year. Right now I don’t really know what I am doing. I only have Painter IX and it is the program I most want to learn but there doesn’t seem to be much material on learning it, at least not as much as Photoshop (which I can’t afford right now.) :hmm:

#79

Hey Everyone,

I thought I would put up a detail of one of the drawings. I don’t know if it helps at all but it was the only other photo that I have of the drawings that I put up. It is a detail of the arm, which was the first Anatomy poster that I did. I haven’t been able to find any of the making photos anywhere but I will keep looking. :slight_smile:

#80

O.K., I actually found some old photos of how I did one of the drawings. Unfortunately, it is of the front torso drawing, which I am no longer very fond of, but oh well. I think the pictures will speak for themselves so I won’t write anything in with the photos for now. If people want I will edit this post later to explain anything people want me to.

Thanks for all the interest in these drawings, it made me feel good to be of some value here for once. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Later,
Kyle

Line Drawing

Blocking in the Color

Starting to Modulate Lighting

Refining Modulations

Finish