"PAINTOVER PLEASE" - painted crits on demand - with Steven Stahlberg

#141

Hello steven, this is my newest work.i wanna design a character by the fashion way.i like painted it with a little oil-paint way and i hope u like it and i would love to learn how to improve it.

#142

Hi!
Idea of overpaint crits is so great and I don’t want to miss it and oportunity came in the right time to show picture in here, this is what I’m working lately, an image for young, skilled, polish director’s movie. This picture is an illustration of one of many dreams that main character in movie got… and maybe it looks like finished job but something is wrong and I just don’t know what, so far no one on few cg foums could tell me straight what to change, so I came here, You are so great artist for me and I’ll be honoured to take crit from you:)

Thanks

p.s. sorry for my english…

AND HERE IS LINK TO BIGGER VERSION:
http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/2…6balony8wo.jpg

#143

Squibby, here’s my suggestion. I raised the lance because it was an uncomfortable pose, and it seems more ‘proud’ upwards. The horse - always use reference, Google images is the best reference library anyone could ever dream of. The background, muted a bit to help showcase the character.

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#144

Well this is concept design and really not a suitable subject for overpaints, but I played with a bit and maybe you can get some more ideas from it. :slight_smile:

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You should always check the horizon line, and the perspective lines meeting at it. You might want the horizon lower or higher than this, if so redo the lines accordingly. I also tweaked the shading of the guy a bit.

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Usually cartoons are not very suitable for overpainting, but I thought I could suggest some improvements to the forehead, the symmetry of the face, and the perspective of the body. I also thought the yellow in the background was a bit too greenish for a fire.
Nice face and hand.

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#145

Misiek1125, nicely painted, but sorry I don’t understand it… what is actually happening in this image? Is the person trying to climb or fix a hot air balloon, while being attacked by birds? Is it a balloon race? Is that a tornado down there? Is it a man or a woman, and what’s the strange moustache thing across his/her shoulders? Let me know some more details and I’ll try a paintover.

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#146

wow now thats exactly what I was thinking off, absolutely stunning and very dramatic… the issues with my original are so blindingly obvious now…

Now to stumble about changing it, thanks alot for the input it was truely invaluable. I’d be happy if my finished image came out to be half as good as that quick paintover :smiley:

#147

This thread is a very generous of you mr Stahlberg.

Might I suggest posting paintovers as a two frame animated gif? It would increase the pleasure of casual browsing, and become easier for everyone to compare and learn.

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Cheers

#148

Ok I’ll try to explain… This image is in fact symbolic, it’s about reaching the happyness, dream I was to told to paint was about women who climb on very long cloth going down from sky from place of eternal happyness, but it changed to baloon race (but baloon race is not what I wanted to show, that’s why just few baloons are showed, main idea was to show women trying to climb on baloon)), Everything in this image had to be a little dreamy and cartoony, clouds in far are not tornado but regualr clouds going down like pillas from earth to sky, birds are attacking women becouse the sky belongs only to them and they won’t accept invider, they so mean that they will even destroy ballon in which our character wish to reach the sky (baloon race is either symbolic, couse everybody want to have some part of his or hers own happyness), and moment I painted is when birds made hole in baloon and it’s falling down, so women desperatly want to fix it but she doesn’t have tools like needle and string, and here comes the parrot, colorfull parrot, a symbol of good, not like other evil birds, parrot want to help women, so it’s carrying needle and string and it fights back evil seaguls

women on her neck wears shawl made of birds feathers - in first concept it was a symbol of birds of flying, becouse firstly I wanted to paint women who use birds to reach sky, but than I changed idea and shawl stayed couse I liked it:)

ok i think it’s in part clear now…

thanks

#149

@Stahlberg.
Many, many thanks.
I allways had the feeling, theres something wrong with the perspective.
The softer look is great, i really have to pay more attention to it. Thx again, it really helps a lot :slight_smile:

#150

I’m curious to see what could be improved in this picture. I made it for the DSG, “July”

#151

djtrousdale, it’s a cool idea clearly staged. There’s only one aspect I’d change in a paintover, and this once that’s easy enough to describe in words: the saturation is too high, covering too much of the image.

First of all, the realism-issue. In real life nothing is ever 100% saturated unless it’s incandescent or hit with a huge amount of tinted light. The sky is not one of these things, which you can easily see if you color-pick a few average sky-photos in PS. Same for hair, skin and water, and even brightly colored plastic.

Now the visual effect it has on the brain. To me this image hurts to look at. :slight_smile: You may think I’m joking, but there is a slight discomfort if I look at it too long. Now, that’s just the opposite of the effect we want with our images right? :slight_smile: I’ve reached the conclusion that only a very small part of the canvas can be strongly saturated at any one time, before it becomes too much, and gets in the way of enjoying the image.

In this case, you might try keeping the ring and the pants the same, but muting the skin a lot, and muting the sky a bit.

#152

Hey there Steven.

I painted this for the Daily Sketch Forum Topic “Betrayal”. I had this neat idea of a girl in a cloak. She was trying to hide her identity in the cloak, but accidently “betrayed” herself.

Anyways, I wasn’t happy with how it came out, so I was wondering if you could give me some tips on how to fix it so I can try her again.

Thank you so much for doing this for everyone, it’s so great.

#153

Hi Steven,

Thank you for doing this for everyone, its really cool.

So here is my work in progress. A piece I call, “Fine Wine”. I am trying to convey simple sophistication, both thematicaly and in my painting technique. I want to illustrate the feeling of this woman who has worked hard her whole life, and is now for the first time beggining to allow herself to enjoy some luxury time. She is drinking fine wine, eating chocolate covered strawberries, being served at a nice restaurant somewhere in Europe. SHe is confident, wise, and beautiful. Or at least I hope she is.

I have kinda slowed down on this piece. I feel it has the potential to be one of my nicest works so Im trying not to rush it. Im workin on it in my spare time between animation.

Any help would be much appreciated.

#154

Ok I’m testing to make an animated gif out of this one, with a 3 second delay. Is that optimal for everyone?

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My thinking here is to make this more clear and readable, but I may have gone too far. But I hope you get the rough idea what I mean anyway.

#155

Thank you steven :slight_smile:

#156

Thanks Steven!
Greate overpaint, now I see what I can do with this ok I’m going to fix it, thank you again, cheers

#157

hello mr. stahlberg,
how is kuala lumpur? thank you very much for having this thread.
i am working on a little concept. i call it unplugged and i started painting on it again after watching episode III. first it was a line drawing layout. i blocked in the colors quite some time ago and got it up to this point in photoshop. my main problem is lighting in space. i have had some trouble settling on a light source and also wanted lights all over like in a bad science fiction flick. but unfortunately i ended up with not enough value in the separate objects and kind of making the overall appearance remind one of a north american christmas tree. the ship in the foreground was obviously intended but draws too much attention to itself right now. i already tried to fix this problem by changing the color and saturation. sadly i have not yet achieved the result i was originally going for. please let me know what you think and how i could improve things. i am thinking about just starting over but then again, i got so much other things to finish and so not enough time. by the way, the psd has way more defined colours which creates clearer depth. thank you

the image:

some detail, just to get a better idea:

#158

The woman drinking wine

#159

The hooded girl

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#160

The space station. You mentioned you were divided between two different lighting setups, since we have to pick one :slight_smile: I chose the darker one.

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