Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Ron Eyre, Hong Ly and Rebeccak 011


#441

Zepyhri,

Wow, what a beautiful update! And I’m so sorry to hear that you’re injured…cats are so odd sometimes! :rolleyes: Hard to know what sets them off, I guess.

I’m really enjoying the soft colors in your piece, and can’t wait to see your next update! :applause:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#442

Hi …Zepyhri…:slight_smile:
Great to hear your bites aren’t infected…hope you gave the cat a good slap at least.
maybe not…MIGHT LEAD TO MORE BITES …LOL!!
Your stil working on doves I think, so I won’t say to much about them, other than…don’t
end up making them compete for atention with the main figure…one of the doves should be
primary…the others secondary…made so with shadows ect. I think the smaller one by her
hand is the primary dove, and creates the action…I think I like it’s original gesture better,
but maybe that’s just because it was more finished looking. I don’t think you need the dove
you added right behind that one…killes the openness in that area, and competes too much
with the first dove…and also makes the composition to obvious…you want painting to feel
uncontrived and have a natural open flow, with an element of surprise and mystery with the placement of your directional elements.
Also…don’t loose the richness of your shadow areas in clouds…I notice, your starting to
get a white’d out look in last version…looseing that rich orange and purple violet appeal
of the previous version…remember shadow adds to mystery and drama…depth and
beauty…I HOPE you don’t think i’m being too critical or nit picky at this point.
Just trying to be of some help, in this truly BEAUTIFUL PAINTING you are creating, and
like all advice, take it , or leave it…only you know what is best for your vision in the
end…:slight_smile:
TAKE CARE
Glenn


#443

Wooo… I finished it…well… for now. I might go back and tinker a bit in a couple of days. I don’t know whether I’ll be cutting it fine for Aphrodisia :argh: but never mind, the exercise in itself is certainly worth it. All hail the anatomy workshop!

Here’s the finished piece. Glad you mentioned the cloud shadows, Glenn, definitely better with them!:
Colours of the Wind

And some close ups:

I’ve also posted it in the finished 2d gallery too, with a story to go with it: Link . Thanks once again for everything guys! :applause: Now to go and write up a step by step! :beer:


#444

HI …Zephyr…:wavey:

Can’t stop admirering it…simply BEAUTIFUL…:thumbsup: :applause:

TAKE CARE
Glenn


#445

Zepyhri,

Totally beautiful piece…:applause:…so impressed with this, and I’m so glad you posted it to the finished gallery! :bounce:

Amazing stuff, and I hope you’ll be able to participate in the next OFDW 004 ~ where we’re doing another Bouguereau master copy. :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#446

Un chef d’oeuvre… un plaisir pour les yeux…

A masterpiece, a great pleasure for eyes…

It’s warm, it’s luminous, it’s inspiring, it’s dreaming… it’s full of many things… always and again speechless… bravo Sam :applause:

:bowdown:


#447

Thank you guys… Glenn, this piece is partially what it is due to your wise council! And lemog, thanks for your support. And Rebecca, I’ve just finished typing up a step by step that I’ll post shortly! I’m miffed I didn’t have time for the bougereau copy, so I’ll definitely be attempting the next one! (I’m personally looking forward to a caravaggio, he’s my hero).


#448

Zeph,

Great tutorial! :applause: I’ve pimped it about the forums, so it should be receiving some well~deserved attention. :slight_smile:

I think a lot of folks want to do a Caravaggio, so we’ll try to do that next. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#449

Zeph - Amazing work. I am glad to see you finished this one out. It makes me want to go back and pick up my sketch and work more on it. There is a lot of detail but if I may ask what is going on in the crotch?:eek: Is it to go with the sheer wings or viens perhaps? I am not critizing it just curious about the design and thought behind it. Now that I am blushing!


#450

Rebecca - I have been looking through the thread here after being absent for a while. It appears that there is some discussion about artistic output in the workshop. Is it my understanding that you would rather see the workshop as just that and not express one’s individual imagination but to try and accurately interprete the image as shown?

Aggie93


#451

aggie93,

Hmm, no, that’s a misinterpretation of what I’ve said. :slight_smile:

I think folks are free to use this Workshop as they wish. I am thrilled when Zephyri goes out on a limb and does beautiful works which only use the OFDW Reference as a starting, but not as an ending point. I think it really depends on who you are and what you need out of this Workshop. I certainly don’t dictate anything regarding style ~ I may have and express my own opinions, but that is just what they are ~ opinions. With respect to art, there are no facts, only consensus on certain things, and that’s about it.

What I think I may have expressed that you may have misinterpreted is that I think that too often, I see work on the general forums here which appears untutored, and as such, I think that people should do more representational work and practice studying from life, from photo reference, and from Master Works, so that when they go to do their own imaginative work, they might do so convincingly and with a well~established basis. I don’t often see that, and that is what these OFDWs are meant to address. Folks like Zephyri and Spirit Dreamer who already have a lot of experience may find it more to their liking to do more imaginative works, which I think is terrific! I enjoy figurative work of many stripes so long as it is of high quality, and that is just me. :slight_smile:

I guess you could say that for me (and that’s only me) quality is content, and also meaning. If a work has an ‘idea’ behind it, yet is poorly executed, I cannot myself see past the poor execution to the ‘idea’. That’s why I try to encourage people in these Workshops to do their personal best, because I think too often folks are encouraged in schools to express more ‘ideas’ than they have the tools to express.

I hope this makes sense!

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#452

Rebecca - Great! I really do like the self interpretation like Zephs work. It has actually inspired me to go back to this thread and work on another myself and create my own work from the picture. Sorry, I just misunderstood. Not unusual!


#453

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