Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Ron Eyre, Hong Ly and Rebeccak 011

#361

Glen - Thanks for the suggestion in the structure of the ankle area. I think that was a case of drawing without really looking at what I was seeing.

Mr. MUMU - Thanks for the kind words.

Rebecca/Audit - Great question and great response. I learned a lot from that exchange. I am curious to see how all the work I have been doing digitally will effect what I do traditionally. I am toying with the idea of doing the next workshop in oil paint and then taking digital photos of my progress just to see if I can see what kinds of improvements may or may not have occured and what lessons I can cross-apply.

Here is my update from tonight:

#362

Vidar3d,

Wow, once again I am hugely impressed with your progress…this colorized version is lovely, and the attention paid to the tonalities of the background drapery as it relates to the foreground figure is quite nice…I also like the well~handled shift in perspective from the top of the figure to the feet…all~round, this has progressed beautifully! :applause:

The one minor crit I would have would be for her right arm and hand…which look a bit more flat in comparison to the body and face, which appear quite volumetric. The shadow area around her right shin might also be lightened with just a touch more reflected light to distinguish her leg from the background…but apart from these minor things, I think overall this is a really nice piece, and I look forward to seeing what you will do for the next! :slight_smile:

Glad the information re: opposing curves / chiarascuro was helpful. Thanks to audit for the really good question! :slight_smile:

Regarding using oil paints for the next OFDW ~ you are more than welcome to do so! I think it would be great to see that here ~ a few people have done that in the past, and I certainly wouldn’t mind at all if more people did so. :slight_smile: The structure of the OFDW series is really based on my recollection of the live painting and drawing Workshops I attended in school, and there of course we were working traditionally (though the term ‘of course’ may not apply today :)) so I am more than happy to see Traditional work done here for these OFDWs. The only concern I have is time, but frankly, in school we were given about the same amount of time to do Master Copies, so it shouldn’t be too much of a problem…the goal is to understand Drawing, Composition, and Color, and not to produce a carbon copy of the original ~ so I would definitely encourage you to go that route if you feel so inclined. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#363

GREAT JOB ON THAT ONE…Rett…:thumbsup:
One minor suggestion that might help you in the future…The top of the foot, has a
tappering arch shape, that ends where the toes begin…on yours, the arch shape on top
of the foot looks like it flattens out, too far up on the top surface of the foot,before it
reaches the toes. Lift your heel off the ground and feel the top of your foot, and you’ll see
what i’m talking about. Arch will always be there, even when heel is flat against surface.
Really nice and very fast improvements happening in your works …Rett…GREAT…:thumbsup: :slight_smile:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

#364

Here is mine.

#365

augustus,

Wow, what a unique style! You know, to be totally honest, it is hard for me to tell if this is digital or traditional media ~ definitely a compliment. :slight_smile: What media did you use? Traditional, or PS / Painter?

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#366

It’s Painter with lots of sharpen filter. :slight_smile: Thanks.

#367

Beautiful work then! I could almost be fooled into thinking it were oil. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#368

Yesterday’s Sketch:

#369

Hi everyone :slight_smile:

phase 3 tonight: torso etc. added. still bashing away…

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Rebecca: thank you for your thorough reply: I’m going to think out loud for a bit…

I can appreciate the huge gap between computer and ‘real life’ painting (a reflection of the gap between computers and real life…!), and i am tackling it, slowly. Digital work is much easier, especially in terms of ease of reference and the ability to amend anything without the waste of time or logistics. This suits people such as myself who have no formal training, i suppose.

Your references really illuminated the points i was struggling with. On reflection, the key to it lies in the appreciation of the interaction between light and form and regarding light as the agent which reveals form’s properties. What strikes me is the difficulty is showing the absence of line - chiaroscuro - within a two dimensional medium. This is a topic which i have read about a lot, and it seems line is a necessary evil given the nature of the process. However I guess the complexity of the human figure simply has to be accepted and dealt with through observation; after all there’s only so far I could go inventing schemes to draw by (which is quite refreshing, really…).

-audit

#370

hi, im new here and im still working on my digital art skills. i dont know if im able to post here but this is my progress so far. its definately not up to scratch as some of the other amazing artists here but hopefully i can get some critique so i can get better :slight_smile:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/vx2000/Sick%20Osiris/humanform1copy.jpg

thank you :slight_smile:

#371

audit,

Glad you’re interested in these problems! I call them ‘problems’ because they are things I’ve thought about for years. Frankly, there’s no easy way that I know of to resolve them ~ number one, it’s mostly a matter of practice, and number two, everyone’s resolution is personal. I used to agonize over trying to reconcile various different methods by which I had learned to draw…it took me years out of school to really even come close to coming to terms with the way that I personally, through my own personal filters, understood how to draw / paint ~ and that was traditionally! Digital is indeed a field unto it’s own, and cannot quite be quite equated with traditional work. It’s not to say it’s better or worse ~ it’s just to say that it is a different medium, with it’s own rules (even according to the program that you are using).

I would say that at base is the fundamental understanding of line. Then tone. Then color. These principles apply across media. Line, or contour, is even applicable in the world of 3D ~ I’ve seen tons of 3D models where the application or understanding of the principle of Opposing Curves would vastly improve the mesh.

At any rate, I hope this makes some kind of sense…let me know what your thought are.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#372

The new OFDW 012 has been posted! Please note that while this OFDW 011 will remain open indefinitely, the majority of the group will be moving on to OFDW 012, which will last from 3~4 weeks in duration:

Open Figure Drawing Workshop - William Bouguereau Master Copy - with Rebeccak 012
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3182954#post3182954

Hope to see everyone there for a great new OFDW! :arteest:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#373

Originally posted by sick osiris: hi, im new here and im still working on my digital art skills. i dont know if im able to post here but this is my progress so far. its definately not up to scratch as some of the other amazing artists here but hopefully i can get some critique so i can get better :slight_smile:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y9…anform1copy.jpg

thank you :slight_smile:

Welcome aboard, sick osiris! :slight_smile: Glad to have you aboard. Unfortunately, you’ve come in at the tail end of this OFDW 011, and we are on to:

Open Figure Drawing Workshop - William Bouguereau Master Copy - with Rebeccak 012
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3183097#post3183097

which I would welcome you to join! We are doing a Master Copy of a William Bouguereau painting, and I think it will be an exciting chance to learn some new things and to test your skills. :slight_smile:

Since you are new, let me point you towards a few different threads which I think you may find helpful:

I always recommend that those new to digital painting start painting in grayscale.

See this Tutorial in particular:
TUTORIAL - Digital Figurative Painting from OFDW - by Rebeccak
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=275436

Also check out:

Resources for Beginners
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2897666&postcount=2

I particularly think you may wish to check out the Beginners’ Lounge ~ lots of great exercises and work there by a really friendly group! I check in whenever someone posts work there and try to provide feedback ~ the group provides really useful feedback as well. :slight_smile:

You are most welcome to join us on the OFDW 012 ~ hope to see you there!

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#374

Already the #12 comes… and I’ve no finish one :scream:

I will try to finish it this week…

#375

AAh I suck. I wish there was a way to split myself into so many different pieces so I can get stuff finished. I got totally distracted with work and class assignments. I had this quick study done to get my feel of the subject. Now 012 has posted and its a subject I’d like to attempt from the beginning. So am gonna post this quick study, then rush in and do a fast coloring while we still have Becca’s attention.

heh and I’ll of course do some corrections before I start :smiley:

#376

All of you guys have posted amazing work in this thread. Looks like the higher up in numbers we go, the more amazing all the art works get. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

#377

Hi …QueenSoul…:slight_smile:

Don’t forget, that in the race between the rabbit and the turtle, …the turtle ALWAYS WINS !!

TAKE CARE
Glenn

#378

thats a lot for the nice welcome rebecca. really appreciate it :slight_smile:

#379

Hi there. Here is a wip am working on . Oil on board. Could barely finish the first layer before it got too dark and I had to stop. Hope it dries by tomorrow so I can continue. Still a bunch of work to be done.

#380

LOL Glen, you are so right.