Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Ron Eyre, Hong Ly and Rebeccak 011


#341

Argh, another update before I crash out…:smiley:

Compromised by sampling the colors I liked better from the more loose, painterly piece…while retaining the darker, and greenish cast to the original piece. Also adjusted some of the gesture of the pose. Still working…:smiley:

I think in the future, I’ll make small color studies in Painter first…I seem to be more inspired color~wise in Painter than PS…could be just psychological, because of the texture and ‘feel’ of real paint, I dunno…:slight_smile:

[left]Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak
[/left]


#342

Hi Ron,

When you say Corel Paint I think you are referring to Paint Shop Pro? I don’t actually know what that app does.

But,

Here is a link to Corel’s Painter IX website

and a little tutorial about the artist’s oil colours included in PainterIX

as an example, because this is a new feature most people freak out about.

I think Painter is best suited for people who started in traditional media as the behaviour of the tools is very close to their natural counterparts.

There are over 400 variants of natural media drawing tools from all kinds of chalks over several kinds of watercolor to inks pencils and acrylics (and oils of course). You can decide how much paint is put on the canvas and you can influence the way this paint is carried away by following brushstrokes. Actually you can influence all kinds of parameters to make the tools do what you want. Or you can just leave it as it is and start being creative right away…

Hmmm, I just realized there’s no point in me telling you all this. There’s a 30 days trial. You need to register with your email, though. But, beware. It is one of those trials which leaves you with a desperate and irrational desire for a product you did not need before you started the trial:scream:

Have fun!


#343

Hi Rebecca and everyone
Worked on face this morning
starting to refine features
trying to get Ron’s expression
A tricky one but a nice one for sure
Take Care
Glenn


#344

Guys,

Sorry to put this here, but it may be useful:
CGS Feature Article - Drawing Lessons: Opposing Curves - by Rebecca Kimmel
[size=2]http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3346&page=[/size]

[left]Hope you can check it out! :wavey:The tut is taken from work I’ve done for OFDW 002 and WIP from this very thread. :slight_smile: Thanks to Ronnie for allowing me to use his image. :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak
[/left]


#345

GREAT TO SEE YOU GETTING THE EXPOSURE YOU REALLY DESERVE…REBECCA…:arteest: :bowdown: :thumbsup: And speaking of exposure…What’s up with that black box, over RON’S CURVES…LOL!!:wink: :slight_smile:

TAKE CARE
Glenn


#346

Glenn,

Thank you, and LOL! :scream: I did ask Ron if it was ok to do that, but since people may be viewing the article at work, I felt it was necessary to add the silly box since folks may not be aware of what they’re about to see. Thanks to Ronnie, for understanding. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the support, Glenn! :wavey:

Now, I’ve gotta go register for school…:smiley:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#347

Whaouw… Perfect Beckie… real pleasure to discover this short but great and interesting article :arteest: :thumbsup:


#348

Lolo,

Thanks so much…really means a lot coming from you. :slight_smile: :wavey:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#349

Beckie… in first, when I saw the title… I don’t really understand “opposing curves” seem for me very obscur… but when I watch these pages… all comes lightened, clear… rich to share :arteest:


#350

Lolo,

Thanks so much…that means a lot to me. :slight_smile: :love:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~“Beckie” :scream: :cool:


#351

I am looking forward to the next Worshop!


#352

Great article Rebecca, nice to see you getting some “props” for all of your effort.

Another update, I trying to make a concerted effort to tighten up the drawing and rendering of the lower legs as I usually keep the lower legs and feet pretty soft and loose. I am to start coloring tonight like a madman.


#353

Vidar3D - this is making the whole pic rest on a solid and deeply rooted pillar! Really great work on the foot!
:bowdown:


#354

HI …Rett :slight_smile:
Put your fingers on your ankle bones…notice that the finger on the inside bone is alot
higher than the finger on the outside bone…that angle is off on the foot your working on.
in your painting…don’t get it confused with the heel in you painting.
Other than that, it’s looking great…:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn


#355

notice that the finger on the inside bone is alot
higher than the finger on the outside bone…that angle is off on the foot your working on.

wow, Eagle Eye Glenn. Fascinating little “experiment”…

I am sitting here at my desk following instructions from the web to touch my ankles:scream:

Maybe I need a holiday?:scream:


#356

LOL !! …MR MU…:wink:
Same thing applies to the wrist, depending on the motion of the hand…put your
fingers, one on ether side of your wrist bones, and move your hand from side to side
and you’ll see what I mean…but the ankle is more fixed in place, and the angle will
never change…always lower on the outside, and higher on the inside…just a couple
of many key features to keep in mind when depiting the human form…also true for a lot
of other critters too.:slight_smile:
TAKE CARE
Glenn


#357

Originally posted by Vidar3d: Great article Rebecca, nice to see you getting some “props” for all of your effort.

Thanks very much! :slight_smile: Really appreciate your comments. :wavey:
Great progress so far! :wip: Really like the way the whole figure is progressing, and the left foot is starting to look beautiful…definitely looking forward to your next update. I’m really impressed with the speed with which you are improving…keep up the great work!

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#358

Hi all

Here is ‘Phase 2’: finished arm+head, upper body/armpit etc. still to work on. hair was very labour-intensive and still not finished :argh:

i feel inspired to complete it :smiley:

-audit

—PS Rebecca: I read your article - it was very interesting. I was wondering what your thoughts were on the relationship between opposing curves and chiaroscuro - i suppose opposing curves is really a contour technique whereas chiaroscuro is for defining internal form…? (if it’s a stupid question please tell me!)


#359

audit…

WOW!!! :bounce::arteest:That’s beautiful! Can’t wait to see this one finished…:smiley:

Great work!!! :thumbsup: Be sure to save your stages for a Tutorial later…:smiley:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#360

Originally posted by audit: —PS Rebecca: I read your article - it was very interesting. I was wondering what your thoughts were on the relationship between opposing curves and chiaroscuro - i suppose opposing curves is really a contour technique whereas chiaroscuro is for defining internal form…? (if it’s a stupid question please tell me!)

Audit, that’s not a stupid question at all…I think it’s a really good one. Actually, I’ve never thought about it in quite those terms ~ generally I think of Opposing Curves in terms of the Drawing, but of course you want them to come through in the finished result, the Painting, as well. Basically, you want your chiarascuro, or whatever form of lighting/definition of form through light and shadow, to work harmoniously with the Opposing Curves / Contour you’ve used to define your form. This is a bit different with traditional / digital drawing than it is with traditional / digital painting ~ with drawing, particularly with traditional drawing, getting the interior shading to harmonize with the exterior contour (composed of Opposing Curves) is difficult, to put it mildly.

Michelangelo is probably the best at getting the two to harmonize…

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/m/michelangelo/tempt.jpg


http://www.michelangelo.nl/images/laurentius2.jpg


http://www.grf.hr/kultura/_priprema/predodzbe/lik-1/renesansa-rokoko/visoka%20renesansa/michelangelo.png


http://www.ripon.edu/faculty/KainE/Art172/images/michelangelo/painting/creation.jpg


http://daphne.palomar.edu/mhudelson/WorksofArt/13HighRen/3253.jpg


http://www.wsu.edu:8000/wciv/b/ba/bai/bai49.jpg


http://homepage3.nifty.com/kenkitagawa1/Michelangelo-Night.jpg

[left]Sorry had to run out, but getting back to what I was talking about earlier, the last thing that you want in a piece is for the interior of the form to make no sense with the exterior. You want the two to complement one another ~ in kind of a complex sort of braid. Where one form ends, another must begin, all the way throughout the figure. This sort of interrelationship between the interior and the exterior of the form is not exactly easy to achieve, and I don’t think that the digital medium makes it a lot easier ~ you have to have the underlying knowledge of form and also an understanding of drawing as distinct from anatomy to make it all work. I struggle the most with this myself in my traditional drawings ~ it’s not easy, and I certainly don’t claim to have mastered this. But the fun part is in trying…I feel like I learn more and more with each drawing. Digital work is newer to me, so in a way it’s like learning all over again. However, the same principles certainly apply to digital as well as to traditional art.

Hope this helps. :slight_smile:
[/left]

Cheers,

~Rebeccak