Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Ron Eyre, Hong Ly and Rebeccak 011


#241

Mecha,

I think we could all use help with our compositional skills…and there’s nothing like tackling a complex piece to get those compositional thoughts going, eh? :slight_smile: It will be a great challenge for me, I’m really looking forward to it! I’ve done digital master copies in the past, but mostly they were of select areas of the paintings, and not the whole thing…so we’ll all be going into this together with open eyes!

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#242

Mecha Just beautiful work! That face is just spot on with light and colours. Really impressive :slight_smile:

Rebecca Looking great too! The face is really coming along. Someone mentioned an almost statue look for your pose and they’re right. It looks amazing the way you’ve been painting it.

zng-Y Great to see your pic finished! It looks excellent and I love the shading you’ve done. The only crit I have is that her face seems a little small or maybe not enough forehead but she still looks beautiful :slight_smile:

aggie93 A great start! The two things that jumped out at me were her right hand which seems a little big / fingers too short and her breasts which seem to be a bit high on her chest. Anyway… no need for embarrassment. I always find traditional media much harder. The mistakes show more easily. We have it easy on the computer and can click ‘undo’ or easily erase / smudge lines. My digital painting had a bunch of erased and nudged proportion lines, you just can’t see them :slight_smile:

Think I got everyone else yesterday or in previous comments.

I won’t have time to do another painting for 011 but at least I did one and managed a few pencil sketches of Ron Eyre. I am looking forward to starting the master copies next week :slight_smile:


#243

Amerasu,

Thanks for the comments, they’re great! And I can’t wait for the next Workshop, and really look forward to your participation. :slight_smile:

Cheers! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#244

Rebecca and Amerasu » Yeah you’re right about the head, not my strongest part i guess :shrug:. Thanks a lot for the compliments, realy like that! Also the crits are most welcome, so thanks again!

[b]Hate Chimp! [/b]» wow, amazing how you bring this piece alive with such less work on it. The brushwork looks so fine, great style!

Oh btw, anyone know where i can get Painter?


#245

zng-Y - Painter has a downloadable, fully functioning program with a 30 day evaluation trial (I think!). Should be enough time to see if you like it. I have no idea how much it costs now, I’m still on version 8 I believe :slight_smile:

http://www.corel.com/painterix/home/index.html


#246

zng-Y,

There is also ArtRage, which is free:

http://www.artrage.com/

While not as sophisticated as Photoshop or Painter, it is a good paint program which many people like, including Zhuzhu. :slight_smile:

Hope it helps.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#247

ROFL… step away from the airbush:scream:.

I’m with you on the mastercopy image choice by the way, should be interesting. Might get a bit ironic though as we may end up adding a new level to Dante’s hell…

>Thou shalt spend enternity rendering flesh in photoshop… argh I REPENT, I REPENT


#248

Mecha, you and Sara have amazing picts. Can I ask a stupid question? Since I have never done a CG pict, do you import the original picture into your picture and enhance it from there? I know that may be an insult to your artistic ability and I do not mean it that way. I just think the pictures are so refined they look almost real. You can PM your reply to not give any secrets away or just cuss me out live.

:shrug:


#249

Originally posted by a ligthly spritzed AOAH: ROFL… step away from the airbush :scream:.

I'm with you on the mastercopy image choice by the way, should be interesting. Might get a bit ironic though as we may end up adding a new level to Dante's hell.. 

>Thou shalt spend enternity rendering flesh in photoshop... argh I REPENT, I REPENT

:scream: I would agree with that last statement especially if it ended with the phrase, “Thou shalt spend enternity rendering flesh in photoshop…[color=Yellow]WITHOUT the airbrush…” [/color]:scream:


#250

aggie93 » i just saw u were embarrassed to post your work, WHY?? First of all, everybody has to learn. Second of all, like they told me, it’s all for fun and study, so there is nobody who would bring you down with mean words or something.
So just keep the updates comming! :bounce:


#251

Thanks ZNG-Y!


#252

I am embarrased to confess that I actually felt a lump in my throat when watching this and had to swallow in order to not have tears welling up.

This is so beautiful. And I feel so ashamed:scream:…

But, while the others could do me the favor of ignoring or at least forgetting my message, I thought it’s only fair to tell you Rebecca - hope you finish this one.

By the way: PainterIX is on its way (hectic and nervous inquiries at my online dealer’s hotline told me so) and might be just in time for the start of next OFDW. I thought I might open my own anatomy thread and do some thorough studies of everything I will have to do for the master copy - what do you think?

I am actually quite excited!


#253

Originally Posted by zng-Y: aggie93 »aggie93 » i just saw u were embarrassed to post your work, WHY?? First of all, everybody has to learn. Second of all, like they told me, it’s all for fun and study, so there is nobody who would bring you down with mean words or something.
So just keep the updates comming! :bounce:

Exactly! :bounce:

Originally Posted by Mr. Mu: I am embarrased to confess that I actually felt a lump in my throat when watching this and had to swallow in order to not have tears welling up.

This is so beautiful. And I feel so ashamed :scream:

But, while the others could do me the favor of ignoring or at least forgetting my message, I thought it’s only fair to tell you Rebecca - hope you finish this one.

By the way: PainterIX is on its way (hectic and nervous inquiries at my online dealer’s hotline told me so) and might be just in time for the start of next OFDW. I thought I might open my own anatomy thread and do some thorough studies of everything I will have to do for the master copy - what do you think?

I am actually quite excited!

Mr. Mu, your comments on my work are so sweet. :slight_smile: (You will be receiving that money I promised you in the mail shortly). :wink: :scream:

Regarding your participation in the next OFDW, even if Painter doesn’t arrive (and I’m crossing my fingers that it does) you can still use ArtRage to get started ~ though it can’t compare with Painter, you can at least get a good start, then later open or import your file to Painter and continue from there. :slight_smile:

With respect to your Anatomy Thread ~ I think that’s a great idea! :bounce:We definitely support you on this. Looking forward to seeing it happen! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak


#254

EricTheRed
Really fine sketches, looking forward to your further updates.

Mr.Mu
Thank you. :slight_smile: (In der Nähe von Holzwicked. / Near Holzwickede. Woher kommst du?)

  [b]Amerasu[/b]

Make me happy about your praise, because it spurs. Thank you.

Mecha
I love the way you draw her eye, otherwise a clearly draw picture with
warm colors. Specially the red of her hair is wonderful. Great work!

  [b]Rebeccak[/b]

Puh, your work is very expressionful, impressing.

  [b]zng-Y[/b]

Very soft painting and I love the warm colors.

Here is my update:


#255

Rebeccak> OK OK, your obviously very attached to your beloved airbrush… Go spritz your world with gently changing tones.:scream:

Andy *wanders off to try a persuade a lion to turn vegetarian"


#256

Ravena » Kind words…can’t handle them…i’m…melting! :smiley:

Good start, now i would go from each part to an other and try to detail them!
Goodluck! :thumbsup:


#257

zng-Y
:arteest:
Yes, I will do, thank you. :slight_smile: But in the moment I really jump from part to part, while I have problems with the shadows under her chests. Times they are too dark or too bright. Oje.

Ciao,
Ravena


#258

Glenn,

You were right, I guess I didn’t realize the artist was Bouguereau ~ such a different style from the rest of his work!

The painting we will be copying for the next OFDW 012 (which starts this Sunday) is linked >>here<<: (Warning: slow site)

http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/art.asp?aid=7&page=6

William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Dante et Virgile au Enfers
Translated title: Dante and Virgil in Hell
1850
Oil on canvas
110 5/8 x 88 1/2 inches (281 x 225 cm)

I have saved the image along with a few others to a drive in case it disappears from the website (which I doubt).

~~

Ravena,

Thank you! Nice progress! It’s great to see such a diversity of work here. :slight_smile: Looking forward to your next update!

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak


#259

aggie93, I dont mind any one asking how I do my work … I learned by asking and if you ever have any questions for me, I’d be more than happy to answer them… so please do not hesitate! :smiley:

I normally work in PS using layers and several brushes. When painting, I have the photo reference next to me so I can use it as a gage for sizing my image as well as a direct color palette. I work large usually around 2500x3500 pixels which allows me the flexibility to add more detail to my image. I go back and forth, sizing the image and comparing it to the photo, working out composition and sizing issues as I go along. If I have problems where I cant seem to get the right size or dimension for a certain area, I will import the photo into a seperate layer drop the opacity and see where I am off. This helps tremendously if you get stuck and cant seem to work out the issues by just gaging it with your eyes alone.

I try my best to paint my image as close as possible to the photo on my own but I dont worry too much if its not exact. Im only looking to get as close to it as I can… if a few things are off, thats ok :slight_smile:

Heres a link to a flash sequence showing the overlapped comparison between the photo and the painting. You can see there are a few things where I am completely off on but again, it doesnt have to be perfect. The point is not to make a mirror image… the photo is there only as a guide:

Flash Comparison

As far as painting technique, I wouldnt say I really have a set technique. I like to experiment a lot so it depends on the illustration. For this last OFDW, I just layed down colors in Photoshop using a standard round brush that has a bit of an opacity fade as the stroke tapers off. I used an oily pallette knife in Painter to blend my rough edges and went back and forth between each program until I got what I was looking for. For the hair, I used a set of photoshop brushes created by Barontieri which he has made available for download at his site www.barontieri.com

I hope that helps a little and please feel free to pm me if you have any additional questions. I am always happy to help so please do not hesitate to ask!:arteest:- J


#260

Awesome, Mecha! :bounce:Thanks for that! I love the flash comparison, that’s sweet!

Actually, I would love it if people asked questions here ~ as I think we will all benefit from the questions / answers.

Cheers! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak