Open Figure Drawing Workshop - Mixed Masters - 020


#321

Amazing to see the different approaches to this challenge. I love the work of the Old masters and welcomed the opportunity to jump in this OFDW finally and learn from these historic incredible artists.

Intervain and YMS really helps to see how your value study developed and then applied the color over it. Am trying to find the right and most efficient and comfortable way to approach digital painting. Excellent technique. Excellent studies.
SpiritDreamer You will inspire me to try Painter, yet. Great choice and great job thus far.
Rebecca I am studying your impressive description of the fabric. You have that control of the media that I admire so much. Wonderful job.
Indeed, a master copy teaches SO much. As well as humbles immensely. Now an attempt digitally, admire aappreciate the efforts of the many artists that try this medium because it definately has it’s quirks.

Here is my finished Leighton copy. I spent an embarrasingly large amount of hours on this exercise over the span of 3 days.
My lay-in and finish done in Photoshop. Did a direct painting using a hard round and opacity pressure sensitive brush. Color was eyeballed. As I want to learn to see the color accurately I didn’t want to dip the dropper onto the original image color ,as I have done in the past. Instead, I built color in 50% - 100% transparent strokes still controlling opacity by pressure. Used a seperate layer as I worked on each element. e.g. face and chest, hair, clothing. Am learning to control color, value transitions by variable pressure strokes.
This was a thoroughly enjoyable and big learning experience.


#322

Well spotted NR43, that might explain her rather large ears too.

-craban


#323

HEY…Aztec FireFlower…:bounce: :thumbsup: :slight_smile:

Beautiful work there…really like the way you have done the edges,…some crisp, and some soft.
Also like the way you brought some of that background color into the shadows of the figure, like along the back arced curve of her neck…really puts her in deep space, and gives the painting a great sense of atmosphere, and a oneness…:thumbsup:
The likeness…thought I was seeing the original…LOL…scrolled down, expecting to see your version below the image you posted, then realized …that is your version…:scream:
FANTASTIC JOB…BLOWN AWAY, AS PREDICTED…:applause:
TAKE CARE
Glenn


#324

RebeccaK: Thank you for your kind comments. She’s done, hope you enjoy her even more now.

NR43: Thanks !!

After 001 stage 7:

I guess she’s done…

I just bought my Wacom Intuos 3 - 6 x 8 today (replacing my Wacom Graphire 3) and used it to finish this.

I must say it made a whole new level of subtlety available to me as evidenced by this final stage.

I struggled to purchase the Intuos for a year as it is very expensive here in Malaysia; after this experience, I can just say to all who are still apprehensive about the difference;
JUST BUY IT.

WIP can be seen at my signature thread.

The main thing I learned from copying this Master:
Not one stroke can be left out without it being detrimental to the emotion of the character.

About this copy:

It is all eye-balled.
No painting over a master layer.
No grid system or perspective lines to transfer the original.
Painted using final colours without a greyscale underpainting.
There was a lot of repainting over errors in perceived proportions.
Surprisingly it was FUN to do; although very tiring for the eyes.


#325

Dec 18, 2006

Beautiful work everyone!!

A couple more hours of work done on this one

The WIPs for this are on the last page of my ANATOMY / SKETCH BOOK THREAD .

Take Care Glenn

PFDW 020


#326

HEY…Vincent… :applause: :thumbsup: :slight_smile:

She came out BEAUTIFUL…:thumbsup:
Like Rebecca says,…you might just blend , refine, and soften up the background just a little,
you don’t want it to detract from the great work you have done on her…you want the painting to have a oneness, where there is no competition between elements, such as background and forground…harmony of elements kind of thing…:slight_smile:
Really enjoyed reading what you learned from this exercise, and the way you went about painting her…may not turn out totally perfect, and look like an exact replica of the original,…but you will learn the things that you need to know along the way,by doing it this way …and it is those things, that can’t be learned any other way , that will lead to great works in the future…all the shortcut’s, just shortchange the artist in the long run…:scream:
Short cuts are fine, if you know how to do it right to begin with…by right, I mean the way the old masters did it, but using the brushes afforded in the computer, and going through the steps and or painting process that they went through…which is what you have just done…:applause: :thumbsup:
Any other way, is kind of like using a calulator to add two and two, before you have learned how to add on paper,and in your own mind first…just my opion here…:slight_smile:
TAKE CARE
Glenn


#327

vincent1 I know exactly how you feel about your Intuos tablet :smiley:
Good luck with it and I hope you’ll have loads of fun using it!
your study came out gorgeous btw (I do agree with Glenn and Rebecca on the bg)

AztcFireFlower omg!
I see you are totally used to painting digitally :smiley: I think you are the living proof that having studied traditional media is a real advantage when working digitally!
wonderful outcome!

An update on my Ingres:


#328

Rebeccak - thanks again! I need a few days rest :smiley:

AztcFireFlower - OMG she’s amazing! Totally like the original :buttrock:

vincent1 - beautiful! The eyes are amazing!

SpiritDreamer - it’s like he’s coming out of a murky water - slowly but surely you can see more and more detail :slight_smile: Cool way of painting!

NR43 - great progress - I’d suggest flipping the image horizontally, she seems skewed to one side and I’m sure it’ll be easy to correct in photoshop with the liquify tool :slight_smile: [GO PHOTOSHOP! ;)] :thumbsup:


#329

SpiritDreamer, thanks for the great comments. :slight_smile: My goal for this workshop was to learn how the masters sculpted their forms, that’s why I did not do the full painting or finish the background. Eager now to apply it to my own work soon.

NR43: Thanks!! The Intuos has also help speed up my line drawings as it is so much more responsive.

Intervain: Thanks for the comments and also for the tip on using colour mode on a greyscale underpainting. :thumbsup:


#330

homg drapery ::hides::


I don’t see her lips making sense to me until I’m painting tone in. Grrrrrr.


#331

That’s it guys I admit defeat, I’ve just spent 2 hours trying to pull that dress into shape and failed miserably…much respect to those who have conquered it here and to the main man Ingres himself, but I a lesser man could not complete the task and therefore take this figure down to a portrait with a little crop tool action…this is it, I’m finished with it!!


#332

craban, that’s a great start - keep going!

Johan, I’ve no doubt that yours will turn out great at the end!

AztcFireFlower, Just a gorgeous piece - truly impressive stuff. :slight_smile: It’s not a surprise that your work is first rate, but given that this is amongst your first digital pieces, it’s just truly inspiring. :slight_smile:

Glenn, great look in those eyes!

ThePatches, ha, I sympathize! Looking forward to seeing this develop. :slight_smile:

Mark,
trust me, I am about to commit seppukku myself over this one. :surprised Not a lot of progress because I was extremely lazy this weekend. Still miles and miles to go:


#333

hi all
finally have some time to comment a little.

Rebeccak: perfect, love that soft skin and satin dress, looks very real (like you need to be told :))
Spirit: I like the way you play around with Ingres and all that :bounce:

AztecFire: well that’s a precise copy for you :eek: . I’m on the same now, wish I could even come close to your result…

vincent1, Intervain, YMS : pretty much the same as above… just staring…

NR43: tried to fix the face in my update. it’s coming on, but I wish I worked faster. I like the face in yours, can’t wait for the dress (kind of shows which part is most fun:)). Keep it up:thumbsup:

Having corrected some parts which were way off, I’m trying to get the detail now.


#334

Everybody is doing great job! The work has been so inspiring that I’m going to jump in on this one and try to get something done before Jan 5th. I’m a little annoyed because I subscribed to the workshop thread and never got notification of this one (OFDW 020).

rebecca- There’s some haunting quality about your piece with the dark and brooding tones

mal-1- If that’s defeat, I’ll take it any day!

Will post a WIP as soon as I get started …after I pick one…tough choice.


#335

Rebecca - What’s the original res on that? o.0 sooo smooth!


#336

small update…I worked a litle bit on the face


#337

I’m just bowled over by the work here. I don’t know where to start, except to say “wow”.

I’m still trying to figure out how to use PS for painting. This update actually represents a few hours work, but it doesn’t show. I beagn to founder when it came to the finer detailing. The first steps seemed so easy in comparison. One other thing here: up to this point I’d worked by eye, but I decided to make some corrections to the proportions and placement using a grid and cut&pasting. Thus the funny lines.


#338

HladekStepan, impressive work so far! Keep going! :slight_smile:

TripletDad, thanks a lot! I am sorry to hear you didn’t get the notification - sometimes there are just unpredictably weird things with the server. If anyone else experiences problems with notifications of new Tutorials / Workshops, please let me know!

ThePatches, lovely drawing so far! I work nearly all the time in print resolution. This way, if I get a portfolio piece, I can print it - as well, I can finely details areas that need more attention. For this piece, the size of my canvas is:

4200 x 4925 pixels, or 14 x 16.417 inches at 300 dpi.

I recommend always working at print resolution, unless you are doing something really, really fast - you never know when you’ll get something good, and you don’t want to be caught with a great low resolution piece that you can’t print! :slight_smile:

Looking forward to your progress! :slight_smile:

eduart, gorgeous work, really - looking forward to more!

holdensc, that’s a very solid start so far - keep going, and don’t be discouraged if the process takes a while to learn…I have a feeling you’ll pick things up very quickly! :slight_smile:

Experimental ‘colorized’ version - base layer - the grayscale isn’t finished yet.


#339

Rebecca - oh, if only my system could handle that. I’m runnin’ of 256 RAM. Anything REALLY big and I have to work at school. So mine’s 1921x4000 at 72 DPI and my computer still freezes kinda every time I want to zoom in/out.

/sad

Oh well, it’s just an exercise :smiley:


#340

Rebeccak - that’s amazing LOVE IT - and lol she’s got a halo :wink:

The Patches - beautiful start!

eduart - likewise, great image!