SaraD,
Really beautiful result, and so fast!!! 
I love the deep blue bkgrd and the overall figure is great. The only small thing I notice is that the feet appear a bit small and just a bit weightless. Other than that, this to me is a fantastic piece! :applause:
Morning, Lolo. 
:wavey:
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
After a bit of an absence, Iām back here to learn some more. Pleased to see everyone is still around!
I started a new figure painting this afternoon and will finish it tonightā¦ I hope. Excellent photos as always! I just love the shadows and colours of her skin, especially her face.
As you can see, Iām strugging with hands and feet as usual but I hope I can fix them up properly tonight.
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Corrected all the anatomical mistakes I could find at the moment.
Also went for warmer colors and mood.
Any suggestions from anyone are welcome and appreciated.
As always.
1st is yesterdays post
2nd is todays update
Take Care
Glenn
Originally posted by SaraD: Finished. I guessā¦
Wow, thatās a really nice painting for someone who had trouble getting started! :applause: 
This is being really nitpicky, but I feel that there is something just a bit funny with her left clavicle ~ perhaps just a tiny bit too thin? I liked the previously darker lower leg, but the foot definitely does look better.
The upper torso and background are beautifully rendered! 
Imho, I think the face could use just a bit more dimensionality, and the right leg a bit more of a flexible look / feel. But these are minor critiques of course. Overall, this is a beautiful piece!
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Originally posted by Amerasu: After a bit of an absence, Iām back here to learn some more. Pleased to see everyone is still around!
I started a new figure painting this afternoon and will finish it tonightā¦ I hope. Excellent photos as always! I just love the shadows and colours of her skin, especially her face.
As you can see, Iām strugging with hands and feet as usual but I hope I can fix them up properly tonight.
Amerasu, great to see you back! :applause: Really phenomenal start, look forward to seeing your update! I think you and SaraD are the fastest painters we have!
Cheers, and Happy 2006!
~Rebeccak
Glenn,
Here is why I think that color can be deceptive:
[left]While I like the drama of the intense color, when you take the color away, you can see why some of the figures are not yet working. Painting at bottom is all about DRAWING, and color alone never makes a good representational figurative painting. Donāt rely on color ~ rely on value. I know I harp on this a lot, but I do so because I so strongly believe that value ALWAYS always always trumps color in terms of importance.
Just my little schpiel. As always, you are doing a lovely job, but at times I think you are too quick to jump the gun to a finished painting, when I tend to believe that establishing the basics are much more important. I hope this makes some sense.
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
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Hi Rebeccaā¦
I donāt know how you took the color out of my painting, but when I take it out,
the detail remains along with the values.
Itās my understanding, but I have been known to be wrong at times LOL !..:eek:
When a spotlight is cast on an object, the detail becomes less at the brightest
areas of the object, depending on, and varying with the intensity of the light.
If IāM wrong in this case, be sure to set me straitā¦
IāM not to sure, that it would be corect or proper to show every detail with the Caravaggio
type of lighting IāM trying for. Some of his figures are very vague, and some very sharp
depending on where they are in respect to the lighting ā¦:shrug:
Take Care
Glenn
Glenn,
You know, I thought something looked wiggy! 
May I offer my apologies? I think I need a new computerā¦LOL. 
Ok, youāve definitely got me there. Iāll just beā¦over here.
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Rebeccaā¦
ā¦just kiddingā¦ ā¦no apologies necessary,ā¦just wanted to make sure that
I wasnāt way off in left field somewhere with this experiment IāM trying outā¦
Been known to happen to me at times LOL !
Thanks for the quick response, now I can go to sleep, and not have nightmares about
this paintingā¦still not finished with it yet, a fun one to experiment with.
ThankYOU AGAINā¦for all your GREAT ADVICE and HELP ALONG THE WAYā¦TEACHERā¦:bounce:
Take Care
Glenn
Awww, Glenn, thatās sweet, thanks for understanding. Hahahaha, I am still laughing at myself!
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Orig posted by sturmkim: Here is my starting, soooo many years passed from last hand(2d) drawingā¦
Oh, yay, glad to see your image! Really nice start here, and hope to see your update!
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
rebecca,Glenn,
I am by no means an expert (mentioning it as if it wasnāt painfully obvious:rolleyes: ), but I read herethat chosing ādesaturateā for an image does not do the same as āgreyscaleāā¦
maybe the two of you chose different conversion modes?
Or maybe I donāt have a ****ing clue what I am talking about? Weāll never knowā¦
Hi there,
This is my first post in this forum but I have been lurking for some time enjoying other peoples work and trying to learn from the advice given to others. I did this in my lunch hour (about 40 mins). I am trying to improve my anatomy and general wacom sketching skills.
Marco J,
Welcome aboard! Sad to say that I canāt look at your image atm, but definitely will do so later today. Glad to see youāve come out of the shadows to post!
EDIT: Mr. Mu ~ Doh! I feel like an idiot! Thanks for your post, that really helps! Usually, when I desaturate an image, it does not take the value range out as it did on Glennās piece ~ dunno why it turned out so strange, but oh well. Thanks again!
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Iāll add two cents hereā¦i find the best way to āgreyscaleā an image (in photoshop) is to select image -> mode -> multichannel and then choose the channel (R,G or B) that looks best, delete the others and then convert to grayscale.
About 10 years ago (man, i feel old) i digitally restored photos for a hobby and this trick came in real handy.
BTW, Mr Muā¦I love the likeness in your pic ā¦iāve had trouble getting the face on mine to look like the model (so in the end didnāt bother)ā¦but yours is great!!
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Used Goya colors. Warm earth tones for this version.
Rebecca:
I understand what you are saying about value trumps colors.
And why youāre saying it for the benefit of this class.
Butā¦
That is just one among many methods of paintng.
Rembrandt used it to tint with color over his black and white renderings.
But there is also a method used by the old masters where color is
used to create values in the painting. (color values)
In that method you donāt start with black and white half tone
value underpainting.
You paint directly with color from the start and create values as
you proceed using only color.
In that method, color is value.
The lesson for everyone I think is:
Never say Never
Just limits your possibilities.
Take Care
Glenn
To Mr. Muā¦
I agree - to take a color painting to black and white, de-saturating doesnāt
work because the essence of it is to take out the colorā¦oops! no painting left!
To go to gray scale or directly to a black and white version retains the values
that are in the original color painting.
Glenn,
Youāre totally right, and I definitely go straight for color when painting with oils ~ though the last time I painted with REAL oils has been quite a long time! I hope no one thinks I am anti~color ~ but for beginners in particular, value is most definitely the thing to emphasize. And for experienced persons such as yourself, it never hurts to be reminded.
Really, the issue is not only value, but drawing. Itās easy to get caught up in the properties of painting, and itās harder to always stick to that fundamental principle of āDrawing IS Paintingā. All of us need to become better draughtsmen in order to become better painters. Itās a lifelong quest for all artists.
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Iāll call this finished and Iāll start on another one today. I think Iāll just do a body part study though.
