Noob On Nudes

#1

hey fellow artists.

i just wanted to drop my opinion on nudity and art,and how it effects us.

i’m looking it from two sides.

i understand that people find nudity offensive,which i find pretty strange.

HUMANS offended by the HUMAN body…huh?

however,heres what i don’t like about it

sensless nudes

i’ve seen allota paintings,actually quite a few for the new master and servant challenge,and on various art sites,and there are the most nude entries i’ve ever seen in a challenge and gallery heh,i have no real problem with it,but i just seems un neccasry in sum cases.

on another view,sum like to see the beauty of the human body,thats their reason for it,although in the digital age,it seems they but a nipple in there for thrills and nothing else,ofcourse i would never know for sure,but theres always that click,u can feel if its for a purpose or not.

what are u guy opinion on nudity in art? any interesting points to make?

#2

I guess you’re right. It spices up the painting with minimum effort. As a classic trick to let the work becomes [provocative] since public bathrooms are not public anymore. Besides, painting clothing takes alot more time in many cases.

warning: do not take the above very seriously! it’s 3:50am in Vancouver and I just woke up and can’t sleep…zzzz

#3

All nudes should have boobs. I agree

#4

hmm do u feel its right to spice up paintings in that way though?

and by that i mean

my pics crap,i’m gunna add a boob type of situation?

i don’t think thats good at all.

#5

Hey NOOB!, you just called us artists… :smiley: teehee…

Nudity in art… I don’t mind at all. And heck I’m from the Netherlands, I’m not at all easily offended by nudity.

But what I think is a bit of a shame is that it’s used to sell… videogames for instance.
I see lots of great executed (concept) art of females, armed to the teeth, fighting hordes of enemys… wearing nothing more than a steel thong 'n bra’s. First thing that pops in my mind is: “erm, that’s not practical”.
Nudity in art to me should make sense. Not just for the sake of it.

I too agree that all nudes should have boobs… does this include men too btw? :eek:

#6

hmm do u feel its right to spice up paintings in that way though?

and by that i mean

my pics crap,i’m gunna add a boob type of situation?

I don’t think it really matters. If the pic is crap, adding some nudity to it isn’t going to suddenly keep it from continuing to look like crap. In such cases, I wouldn’t say that nudity necessarily hurts the image, but it’s definitely focusing on the wrong thing.

#7

Well, It depends really. If the naked subjekt is naked for a reason or if it almost has to be naked or lightly dressed because of race (Fairies, winged Angels, winged Devils or other winged races, were garment would disturb the wings) or the spesific tribe.
I’ve never made any nude art myself, exept one that doesnt really count since I dressed them up before submitting it to Deviantart, because I was affraid of noobish comments.

#8

yep,but thats exactly what i seem to be seeing around.crap art with boobs.

and i notice in the finished art galleries,if the pic says (nudity) next to it ,it immediatly gets tons of views.

i guess its mostly males that do this aswell.

#9

i think when learning and perfecting anatomy, it’s only natural to draw a lot of naked people. if you look at a lot of master paintings there’s a tons of “senseless” nutidy.

#10

no no,ur putting my senseless nudity comment in the wrong context,yes obviously life drawing,ur gunna need to study nudes in order to see the anatomy of the body.

what i meant by senseless is ,for example,adding a nude person in a scene without meaning,

what is the meaning of the nude? was it so we can see all the beauty of the human body,or was it so u could get more comments?

#11

Oh, it’s not a question of right or wrong. It is a matter of choice for the creator of the work of art to use it, and it is a discretion for the viewer to find it tasteful or not. There is no absolute values here. This is not a question of morality, may be it was in the 19th century when Manet exhibited ‘Le Dejeuner sur L’Herbe’.

Nudity and sexuality are two different things. Equally, both could be extremely tasteful and positive. Do not try to bracket the way of art!

Why do I see this thread is going to drift into sex, commercialism and art type of discussion in no time?

#12

ashakarc the fact that u’ve now meantioned sexaulity with nudity has made my point,u’ve automatically linked it with sex,and that tells me,is that what nudity represents,desire for sex?..

is it just beauty…

or is it to turn a bunch of old sex hungry men.

u tell me!! hehe.again i have no problem with nudity as such,just not into the un neccasry stuff.

#13

yeah, that’s what i figured you meant. i don’t think i got you wrong at all. there’s plenty of paintings by masters which have nudity in them for no other reason than the artist wanted to paint a naked person. if that’s not senseless, what is? I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that though, and i don’t think the people here are doing it to get more attention (though i do think people are adding “nudity” to thread titles to get attention when there’s not any nudity in the piece, but that’s another issue), i think it’s just what they like to draw/paint/whatever. I don’t think you need to have a justification, to have nudity in your artwork.

#14

well put jbo…

#15

NOOB!: This is a no brainer, when nudity is linked to sex but you just didn’t really get my point.

Traditional values are back and kicking all around the world. It is undoing a century of work of experimental innovations by many great artists, philosophers, scientists, politicians, etc… I guess it is part of a cyclical evolution of human societies. 20 years ago, I would never have forseen a question is raised on the morality of nudity in paintings, I thought we passed that. However, you have a valid concern that it is been exploited to sell.

#16

just looking for opinions,didn’t mean there HAD to be a moral.

but i understand ur point.

#17

There is a very interesting read for the subject of sexuality in a painting with minimum nudity. As far as i remember, it was titled: The Psycho-analysis of Leonardo Da Vinci, by Sigmund Freud. He took several paintings, primarily the Mona Lisa, and psychoanalysed the artist, concluding at the end that Leonardo is a homosexual person. It looks bizzare, but worth reading.

#18

I have to agree with ashakarc here, largely a no brainer, sex is being used as an extra incentive a lot, and rightly so because it works.

I think the issue left is a moral one, when can you do it? What are the consequences? For instance, society first gets attracted to it becuase they simply want it, consequently bombarding themselves with portions or everything of it, and after that maybe even nullifying it’s importance, throwing it around as if it’s a handshake. Bad from an evolutionary pov, sociological pov and emotiional pov. I don’t agree with decadence at all. But it happens nonetheless.

But I do not oppose the use of nudity or sex in art, since I personally feel I have the ability to relativate things(well to some extent at least). I enjoy the beauty of it like anyone else, but matters that can strike that much ground in another person should be dealt with in a tactful considerate way.

#19

Hey Noob
Well, we could look at this on a personal level, your M&S entry… theres nudity you’ve put in that, and you as the artist could tell us its intent… i interpret it as deprevation and primitivity… the characters senseless to the need of clothing… but thats just my interpretation… maybe you could elaborat on your use of nudity and relatively ‘prominent boobs’ in your image

my take on it, im facinated by anatomy and the human body more than any machine… learning and getting right anatomy is said to be the hardest task an artist can undertake, so maybe artists gone have used this as a status gainer, like, show of your skill doing the hardest thing going… the human body… and good exectution puts you higher in the ranks of artistic skill… just a thought

#20

heheheh…Is that soo NOOB? Let’s go make some hits on the nudity warning and study the phenomenon.:slight_smile:

edit: I’m betting it’s still an elaborate ploy to shock, because I find you commenting that you might as well be trying to score. What’s the purpose to this thread then? I see a lot of contradiction here.