New model of Cintiq alternative looks promising?

#21

its about time wacom gets some competition… i have quite a collection of wacoms here, and i`m sick to the bone that every wacom just works with its own version of pen (cintiq12ux pen doesnt work on intuos2 nor with the intuos5 or viseversa… ):banghead:

#22 
     That was my deal-breaker when I tried a [Yiynova DP10HD](http://www.amazon.com/Yiynova-DP10HD-Digitizer-Display-Windows/dp/B008EYA9EG), whose price and portability made it more appealing for work on-the-go than Wacom's 12WX.  Unfortunately the driver conflict makes Yiynova products non-viable for me as long as I'm connecting my laptop to a Cintiq at the office.
     
     A couple other products I'm keeping my eye on:

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[li]Cregle’s iPen 2 for iMac & iPad (though there are a number of reasons to be skeptical)[/li][li]Samsung’s 4K 20" Tablet Prototype (it’d be great for this to sell with a less-bulky stylus, and at a price not too much higher than all-in-one PCs)[/li][/ul]

#23

The problem with a dedicated tablet for this is the lack of power. Someone should design a connector to enable you to use your Desktop power for the processing and the tablet solely as a cintiq alt.

#24

I wrote to my favorite online retailer about the Yiynova 19".

They said they will consider adding it to their products list, so hopefully I’ll be able to buy one online here in Turkey in a few weeks.

Thanks for the heads-up about this!

I nearly bought a Cintiq for big money, when I found out about this great alternative.

I’ll be getting the Yiynova 19" instead of a Cintiq 22" now…

#25

I’d like to have that on one of the PC tablets for creativity on the go.
something along this http://gizmodo.com/5974219/panasonic-4k-tablet-hands+on-unbelievable-tiny-details-make-windows-8-lag-like-hell

#26

I have the 2nd generation 1366 pixel model. Got it for Christmas and I love it. Will post a review when I have a bit of time.

#27

Is it feasible to add pressure (and tilt) sensitivity tech to tablet pc’s? I think the ideal ‘cintiq’ would be a tablet pc that connects to a desktop in ‘dumb’ mode or even compounds the computing power. A quick hot-plug disconnect to wander off else-where with your 24" digital sketch pad would be so liberating.

Surely, faced with the yiynova, and the probable not-too-distant release of tablets sporting 4k resolution screens, Wacom will have to drop the price of Cintiq’s?

I’ve been fancying one of the new Cintiq’s. Very attractive product - but I just felt they are too over-priced. I hate being trickle-fed technology and so have coped with an Intuos2 for years, however pretty the newer models looked! (I only upgraded from my old Intuos1 because it was no longer supported by my OS.) It does seem rediculous to still be using tablet technology from the 80’s? Looking at an image that’s set away from where your hand is drawing - and even more rediculous that we’ve been paying such a hefty price for the privilege.

Why buy an Intuos when you can buy Yiynova now?

The quality of the Yiynova screen puts me off though. I’ll probably wait it out and see what happens in the next year. I’ll just have to stop looking at Cintiq videos on youtube.

#28

Also this product is very interesting news to me,
Also from a better known player and since it has licensed wacom technology,
Wacom doesn’t seem to fear the competition…

http://blog.laptopmag.com/thinkvision-lt1423-adds-a-wireless-touch-screen-to-your-laptop

#29

Thats pretty cool. Kinda like the wii u. It is exactly what i need to draw from the couch. Too bad it has lag and it doesnt seem to have mac support

#30

This is more like it BUT WIN 8 SUCKS and the pressure is prob the same as with most Lenovo screens and no where near the Intuos 4/5. Wacom needs to take note but their prob is they wouldn’t price it around 500- it’d be like 5,000 LMAO- I guess with WIN7 you’d have to extend to this screen and use PS or whatever full screen on it alone. the interface with 7 and touch is jacked.

#31 
         Hot damn! Thanks for posting this--if it's compatible with Win7 (I searched Google for more details, but couldn't find any), that looks like exactly the kind of device I've been waiting for.  It's about what I imagined Wacom would release as a 12WX successor... kind of shocking to see it priced at $350 instead of $1,000.
         
         As for pressure sensitivity, for my workflow I feel like 1024 levels is overkill, and 2048 even more so.  In Photoshop I use pressure to control my brush's:

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[li]opacity, which only has discrete levels 0-100,[/li][li]and size, which I never need to fluidly vary from 1 pixel to thousands[/li][/ul]So I don’t get the need for that many levels of detection. Maybe I’m oblivious to other techniques that call for higher pressure sensitivity, but my cynical side sees it as a marketing ploy.

         If I buy a ThinkVision LT1423, it'll be interesting to work with its 256 levels after the Cintiq's 2048; maybe I'll be eating my words.

(Edit: I keep getting weird spacing issues)

#32

I don’t know if it’s a mind thing or what but I notice a smoother rendered line with more pressure levels- I use the Intuos 3 and have (briefly) used my peer’s 5 and it seems to be a smoother draw- could be other factors, workstation, hardware of the 5? Dunno, but the detail of the line (as silly as that may sound) just seems so much smoother? If that makes any dam sense LOL. Smooth enuff that I am considering an upgrade if nothing else tickles my fancy LOL. anyways, just my observation- note: most of my painting is free hand- have just started using illustrator for line control.

#33

the LT1423p does sound promising for the price. Lightweight and wifi- so in theory you could have your laptop aside and draw on it pulling power from your PC/laptop

Only downside so far is that it’s only 256 pressure.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/06/lenovo-thinkvision-lt1423p-mobile-monitor/

#34

I probably shouldn’t talk since I did a lot of demoing for Wacom and got plenty of free stuff from them, but after I got my Samsung 10.1 Galaxy Note, I haven’t looked back to anything else for my drawing rig. It is the best thing that ever happened to me and my work.

#35

But how does it work with a photoshop pipeline? inother words- is it logical to concept/sketch on it then pull it to your beefier machine for finals? It has a version of Photoshop on it? But then you are still having to have a solution for the PC/laptop.

#36

Came across this CES article at CNET about touchscreen art digital devices.
http://news.cnet.com/2300-17938_105-10015444.html

#37

Terrence, is it better than the Motion LE1700 ? I bought one (used) , and its ok, but You sound very happy with the Note…

#38

I know it has some kind of Photoshop, since this is an Android tablet, but I don’t like or use Photoshop, so I couldn’t say. I use TVPaint and I don’t have a need for doing rough sketch on the tablet and then transfer to computer or laptop to finish. I do everything, all the way to final on it. This animation test was done entirely on the tablet (not including sound) as was this little test clip. I can work in HD and pretty much make whatever cartoon I desire all on the tablet.

Well, I had the Motion LE1600 and I would say it is leagues beyond it. The drawing experience is similar, since you get to draw directly on the screen, but the addition of touch and having a 3G sim card, meaning internet access at all time, anywhere (though I mostly use WIFI actually) cannot be overstated. This tablet is also faster than I remember the LE1600, which had some lag here and there. I sold my LE 1600 years ago and soon regretted it. Now I am very happy. The new tablets are lighter, faster, much more mobile, and this is actually a phone too!

#39

Anyone seen this before?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ipen/ipen-2-for-ipad-imac-and-more?ref=home_popular

Its cheap way to get a cintiq, no special screen required, only pen and connectors. would be nice to get it working on a pc…

I wonder what the performance is like ( pen lag )

#40

It says the Ipen works on win 7 in one of the videos.