Naive Art--how a maniac makes a living ?


#41

I think you are being naive if you think all the contemporary artist in the world are just going to give up just because they realize they have no actual skill to begin with. As Robert and a few others have pointed out, its all about marketing and connections. Either join them or ignore them, bitching about them is just a waste of time.

I have an agenda, and producing equally as intelligent arguments for that agenda might be all the drive needed to spread these arguments to the currently undecided on what should or should not be art.

I do not think the “modern artists” will stop creating it. Never did I say they would. I said it is in the best interests of society to dispose of such mindless acceptance for said art.

My hope is that, if the intelligent arguments are spread, eventually it will suffocate society and reach the minds of those with wealth who buy said art. The intellectual part of the argument would in hopes be enough to change their perception as to what art in modern times should be perceived as symbolic of power. The result of such would be less profit for the contemporary artists and thus less people would make an effort to sell art in such ways.

As I already mentioned before, modern art results in large profits, because it is merely a symbol of one’s own personal wealth. Skyscrapers, those who work beneath you, the amount of money one holds, and other things all are forms of things that symbolize and enhance one’s own social and political power.

You might say, that modern art has merged as an entity present in both the factor market, and the normal market economy.

Many of these contemporary artists, lacked marketing ability. They have connections, yes, but that is all. Those with power, help these “fine artists” get to where they are, not the other way around. It is those who buy the art, that gives the artists the perception they have the marketing skill. However, many artists who I have met and spoken with, who create such art, lack most if not all of an understanding of the economic world.

Supply and demand, externalities, consumer behavior, consumer surplus, collusion(which is illegal I might add), Profit maximization, input costs and output prices, Marginal utility and benefits, outsourcing and insourcing, price leadership, the game theory, the invisible hand theory, free rider concept(which IMO could be easily included as a factor involved in ALL art, though usually associated with public goods), and much much more. These concepts and ideas are not present in the majority, if not all of these modern artists(probably not present in many cg artists for that matter).

Like I said, I do not expect people to stop creating modern art, it could last equally as long as any other claimed art. My argument is however on the perception of this art versus that of other art. If the perception changes, those high profits being made from their construction will be gone, and instead given to artwork that deserves the credit much more.

Those who paint art vividly on canvas, or on the computer is the art that should be making the high profits. Not those people who lack the craft to do so, even if that does sound harsh.


#42

I’m asking for opinions, i know i’m a little bit skeptical in my diction but i’m still trying to understand this style of Art.
In a Nutshell:
Some of You believe that this style is all about releasing ones urge, and splash his primal emotion away on the canvas , I accept that but what do you mean by style if a kid could ahd unintentionally drw a very similar sketch, surley it wasn’t for money i mean he just sart there while his mother and I were chatting and walla, there it is din and done.So that might be why at times i fail to believe that their is intention behind these works.

About the Buyer of Art:
Maybe this perspective of mine had something to do with this skepticist diction that i wrote, CUrrently in Malta a similar artist with a similar style is in vogue each art buyer wants a piece of him, each student is glaring at his work in oah. The problem is not th buying of art but the miseducation of it, I mean if this guy didn’t have a good marketing scheme anybody would have overlooked him and walked on to the next “hot” style. You see these people everywhere where i live, they don’t have tehir own particular taste they just live on what’s hot in the moment, and that is what making this profession strife to survive. Education is lacking and marketing is overcoming, few people appreciate a style, barley any have a taste o ftehir own, you see these people eerywhere, but maybe that’s a a friend of mine called it “The herd syndrome”, as a small and fragile island malta has always moved on easily form one culture to another disregarding tehir own identity.

This maybe a little bit out of topic but it illustrates this growing Herd culture:
You see them all over college campuses, all over teh beaches anywhere, same dark big glasses, same dark straight hair with that pink or bright highlight, same clothing, same scarf, its like they all were batchprocessed. Sure it looks good, but i doubt i’l ever see that wavy hazel nut hair girl, with a sense of identity of who she is and what she’s in to.

About: “William Cozier”
Looks cool i adore his tones, really knows how to spread it around for that depth effect.


#43

“All art is shit. All shit is art.”
—R. Mutt

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#44

Oh no not the urinal!!! Thats it I am going to have a nightmare.


#45

I have ALWAYS been one to keep an open mind on a variety of subjects, especially in regards to something as subjective as art and what ‘constitutes’ art…

Your words have taken me to a new level. Sometimes the thoughts, ideas and principles that a person tries to get by on are summarized in an amazing set of words.

You have explained in a few paragraphs the logic and reason behind many of my personal thoughts. The thoughts that I just believe but can never necessarily explain.

Until now. Well said. VERY well said…


#46

http://www.artomato.com/bosa04/

the above link contains the supposedly the Best of Singapore Art in 2004… Some of them are quite good, but most are, sorry to say, quite lame… Quite pitiful if they are supposed to be the best in Singapore… ouch…


#47

Yeah, our standards in Singapore are downright terrible… I’ve come to dislike their brand of fine arts.


#48

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