I will buy Cinema 4D Prime

#1

I am willing to buy cinema 4D prime, the best would be R20 but can be older. (Europe)
If it’s other version than prime we can discuss too.
Important thing: I need you to give invoice for our transaction.
Also we will use support of Maxon for transferring license to new customer.
This offer will expire in half of october or sooner.

#2

You should check the C4Dcafe. Several users are selling their perpetual licenses there.

#3

Too bad, C4D cafe is paid forum, needs 10$ for month access, just made me angry :confused: (I had here account time ago) But thanks, I will search through posts and try to contact sellers in private.
Edit: My bad, 10$ is one time registration fee

#4

Huh? Didn’t know about that. I made a contribution not too long ago, maybe that’s why I was not evicted.
Just checked it and it seems like $10 is a one time fee, rather than a month access. (Correct me if I’m wrong)

People also provide helpful answers so I would say $10 totally worth it.

You can also try in the Reddit page.
Anyhow, good luck on the purchase!

#5

The long term users who weren’t banned have begun selling off their C4D licenses too as far as I could see. I saw that the remaining members were pi$$ed right off, to say the least, with the Subscriptions so I bet the membership has dropped like a stone and foot fall is drying up.

Closing down sale soon?

#6

What? I never paid anything for C4D Café.

#7

I think with C4DCafe if you had an account very long ago you were grandfathered in for free (I’ve been a member for over 10 years and was never asked to pay).

Infograph - you wish the bizarre reality you have constructed that “everyone is fleeing C4D” was true. It isn’t.

#8

We’ll see, we’ll see.

Go look at the Open Letter to McGavran thread on the Cafe. It hardly shows a membership that is thrilled with the direction of C4D.

The irony is many of those members who were the most upset were the same ones who hounded me off the Cafe when I mentioned I was moving to Houdini. Now I see a couple of them also picking up Houdini. There’s one particular member who literally repeats my exact words regarding Houdini, it’s funny to read.

Cinema 4D’s best days are well behind it and McGavran’s role will be to manage the decline. Maxon were given fair warning by many users on the Cafe that they needed to buck their ideas up and they chose to ignore us. They preferred to hear from the sycophants and the back slappers who are now clearing off to Houdini at an increasing rate.

Has no one considered why the OP wants to buy an R20 Prime license and not jump on Dave’s Subscription gravy train? Everyone wants the Subscription, right?

#9

Buying R20 Prime is probably cheaper than subscribing to R21 and then waiting the two, three or four years likely until good, interesting new features show up. So there is a logic there.

Houdini looks interesting, and complicated, and I’ve never had the month or two free I figured I’d need to sit and let its workflow and terminology sink in. Someday. The latest Blender does seem more graspable.

Things at the Cafe could be better I suppose. They went from anticipating ‘lots of new users’, to asking for financial support, to now closing down the Youtube tutorial channel as the costs are too high. Uploading is free so maybe record a 30 minute unscripted play around with the software every second or third week? Beats me.

I don’t remember anyone being kicked off the Cafe for being a fan of Houdini, as there are plenty of Houdini fans everywhere. But if you’re the guy I’m thinking of, who originally promised a cheery goodbye and an occasional drop-in to provide a friendly update on how he was getting on in Houdini - and who then self-immolated in a series of shrill, angry, rage-filled posts over C4D shortcomings, despite his promises to do the opposite - then saying you were ‘hounded after mentioning you were moving to Houdini’ is a hilariously inaccurate and self-serving way of putting it.

Edited to add - Adidas just signed up as a sponsor for the Blender Development Fund. I don’t see that train slowing down anytime soon.

#10

I was going to make this point to Celke on the thread that keeps getting closed. Well done to you if you’re still flagging it, that’s dedication to the cause.

I expect Corporations are seeing Blender as a cost effective way out of being locked into Subscriptions and a way to manage costs. One of the Japanese animation studios who recently moved to Blender from Max said it was a way to manage costs and the open source nature of Blender had many benefits for tool creation and support.

Ton might be embarrassed with amount of cash he has at his disposal shortly as the Blender Fund Page becomes the Who’s Who of Global Corporate branding.

#11

Who are you suggesting is flagging it? I’m posting in that thread because it’s a good discussion. I’ll assume you’re not talking about me.

Re the flagging, all that’s doing is making me and others wait the two or three or four hours till it reopens each time so I dunno why people bother.

I agree with you on Blender and corporations - rather than having their entire studio sub to Maya for half a decade, they can invest a lesser amount to have Blender built up to match their specifications. And it’s clear now that snowball is only going to grow bigger and bigger. It wouldn’t surprise me if corporate sponsorship this time next year is twice as big, or three times. Ton seems like a nice guy too.

#12

I didn’t reply to you nor quote you so it was obvious I wasn’t calling you out on the flagging. I have an idea who is flagging the other thread but it doesn’t matter. This forum has a long history of flagging critical posts and the it was one particular Maxon employee who used to do a lot of it. I’m not suggesting a Maxon employee is doing this flagging either just to be clear.

Those who make a living from the C4D community like plugin developers will probably be wise to make their plugins R20 compatible for many years. One can only guess at the motives of the OP but they’re probably trying to pick up the last real perpetual licensed version that comes without online checking. Even if people do jump on the Subscription gravy train every former MSA owner will have R20 to fallback on for the time when they decide not to renew their Subs.

I think R20 will be a hold point for many companies/individuals and with careful management it should carry on working for many years on the PC, the Mac seems more problematic though.

*BTW, I know many of the bigger names in plugin development support way older versions of C4D.

#13

Considering that R20 was the version that broke many plugins, people may also want to support R19 as users could be stuck on that release because it’s the last one where their preferred plugins were working.
While some developers seem to have reconsidered in the meantime, I have seen too many plugins disappear.

#14

Apparently YouTube halted the Cafe channel’s monetization because one of the tutorials used a naked female 3D model. I’m not sure if this is temporary or permanent.

#15

There’s an ad on the Cafe R20 Studio + a bunch of plugins (Xparticles and some GSG stuff), asking price 1100 pounds (open to negotiation)