I hope Newtek isn't next to sell


#61

Don’t think so…the first reason is that a Mac version of Messiah doesn’t exist…so, no Mac, no bundle.

There was that idea sometime ago…but I’m quite sure this is not going to happen.

Anyway…rig tools in LW9.5 have greatly improved, the render is simply stunning and I’m quite sure LW10 is going to show its real muscles!


#62

for me i’d like something like messiah plugins, Autorig and Walker from usefulslug

http://www.usefulslug.com/files/WalkerFeatures.mp4

i find this impressive for small animations, comercials etc…
Big boys can manually rig and do whaterver they want, for small shop this is very perfect :).

They should re-hire the guys from messiah and make a very powerfull LW 10.


#63

One thing that should be mentioned is
Lightwave Rendition…
http://www.newtek.com/rendition/

This is in my opinion a REALLY GOOD idea.
It is a a great way to tease graphic designers, who would not normally use a advance 3d program to upgrade up" to Lightwave.

Here is a review of it
http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10688


#64

yeah is not so easy to make an app like Lw to become actually modern!

If what NT is doing is a parallel changeover, this is a good method, because you keep the app in the market until the new/modern one is ready to be unveiled.

However, i totally agree that NT has to think about what makes LW easy for its users, even in building a modern one.

Keep what’s good, and throw what’s bad or better what doesn’t go towards the user.

And rework that.

Modelling workflow, for example, even if it can be streamlined alot giving less tools, but with more options and more real time, gives however a good feedback to the user in many aspects : selections, mesh editing and more. it goes towards the user in many cases and you also can streamline it a bit by yourself reoorganizing the UI.

Layout instead is more difficult to understand/manage in some areas, especially when you get into complexity and division into two packages becomes an annoying obstacle when rigging characters, not to talk about plugins that often can interfere each other.

it is complex to define what a good 3d app should provide to an user , because everyone has different needs depending from what he has to accomplish or depending from what he usually accomplish in everyday work, but the key is ease of use and intuitiveness.

so the key is make the software go towards the user giving him a more fun feeling.

Now, i think that, even with a more modern core, the base philosophy of the app can remain the same; what you actually change is underlying structure of the app, introduce more flexibility though nodal structure and chenge from plugin to scripting allowing to access to all the code has to offer.

Host all the tools under a single environment, so that they are all shared into the whole app and give an organized workflow though layouts organized depending common user needs (modelling, animation, and more).
This wil give users immediate access to the whole toolset while keeping the UI organized.

keep the tools the users use for common tasks more acccessible. Easyness on the surface.

Keep the tools that are thought for complex tasks slightly less accessible.
(Nodal shading is a good example to follow)

introduce things like more realtime tools, drag and drop, more contextual menus to help the user work faster and better.

it is a huge job , but totally possible and with a good foundation you can make the app grow better and better in time.


#65

If someone wanted to buy LW I’m sure Newtek would sell in a heartbeat. Problem is that NO ONE wants to buy Lightwave.


#66

How do you know that? and what makes you so sure? :curious:


#67

err really ?

can u back up your statement with any sort of fact whatsoever ?

thanks
n


#68

Wouldn’t waste your time,
SBolwing has never ever had anything polite to say about Newtek & Lightwave, let alone constructive!
Think cave dwelling creature.


#69

Maybe we should cut him some slack. Judging by his posts, Sblowings app of choice recently was aquired by Autowreck so he probably needs to blow of some steam :twisted:


#70

Thanks! Actually big boys use it them too :slight_smile:


#71

May not be a bad thing honestly. Lightwave needs some serious attention in Animation tools. And they need to go ahead and integrate Modeler and Layout already. It’s such a pain having to open the two.


#72

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