HMC #20 - Expressions - Michael C. Hall


#21

Hello again, semi update/ question thing. I’ve started on a new expression with my latest model. should i keep working on the neutral face or begin on the other expressions? anyways an update. Sad, despair or shamed? which do you think?

and some references i used



My reference of Dexter wasn’t that great so i used the last two to get the idea of the expression and make it a little less convoluted in my head.


#22

Small update on the sad expression. I think the eyes are a bit more expressive and changed the focal length a bit, the image above made his head look a little flat and box-ish. Anyways.


#23

I guessed that was sadness, so for me it’s in the right ball park. I think it’s a difficult expression to do as sadness, as it’s not really typical, that grimace could be determination or pain, so kudos for taking it head on :slight_smile: . One thing that all of your sad reference images have but your model doesn’t is the slight downturn at the corners of the mouth - even the Dexter reference has him doing it, albeit very subtley (you could probably get away with pushing it further than that). Could help sell the sadness more.

The model is very well observed though, can’t really find anything else to pick out. Actually, looking at it now, the extra wrinkles in the eyebags are a bit distracting, might be worth knocking them back a bit.

Cheers


#24

Thanks a lot Lord McGoat. Your comments and critiques are so helpful. Reviewing, it almost looks as if he just saw someone get hurt really badly. The wrinkles (sigh) i usually over do them or make them too flat, but i will not give up and i totally agree with you on them.


#25

yeah the expression’s looking good - I like the curl in the lips… I’d say watch those eyes - your neutral model has a different outline of the eyes than the expression. I like the more defined [second] version better but it’s weird to have the outline definition change… they would just move :slight_smile:

also perhaps using just the plain gray shader would flatter the model more… that shiny one’s not really showing it off well IMHO - just a side note :slight_smile:


#26

it’s real very good work!!!:cool:


#27

Thanks for the encouragement and critiques. did a little work on the sad face, i compared the eyes of the sad face to my neutral face and wow they were off, not by much but just a bit, good catch and thanks! Also started another expression happy or enjoyment. Please forget the other one ever existed.

Also now that i'm using a different material it looks like my details aren't sharp enough :(

[img]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8923/irsad.png[/img]

[img]http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8172/dexter304349.jpg[/img]

Looking at it now I really dislike it, lol.

Couldn’t help it had to exxagerate this expression. I went a little joker-esc


#28

Hey!
Forget the details! You can make it better by giving the sculpt a slight asymmetry to certain areas (like eyes, mouth and teeth too).
Also watch the ‘muscle flows’…right now the face is ‘fragmented’.

If you make ‘half profile’ shots we will be able to see the model more clearly. :slight_smile:

Keep it up!


#29

These are incredible, especially since I just watched the finale of season 2 of Dexter. Don’t spoil 3 for me, dexter episodes are my reward for a good days worth of work :stuck_out_tongue:

I have to agree with nfuchs. The full head on shot of his face seems to lose some of the expression you are trying to achieve.

Also, it depends on who you’re trying to make the 15 expressions of, Michael C Hall or Dexter. Dexter’s happy expressions, unless he’s killing somebody, are meant to appear uncomfortable, while sadness, unless he is alone, is held back.


#30

Thanks for the comments much appreciated. thanks for the advice. i agree i’ve been relying a little much on the symmetry tool.

idk if i can agree with about Dexter’s expressions, but you’ll have to see season three lol. it’s definitely my favorite of the three. anyways i thought it would be more interesting to do the expressions of Dexter, but now i kinda just want to try the more challenging expressions i can find of Michael C. Hall.


#31

Hair still needs more work. Many of those expressions are starting to look the same. The first expressions look very, I dunno, anxious…mhm.


#32

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