Help Rendering A Movie In Premiere

#1

Hello everyone

I finished making a movie for a client in Premiere, but I can’t seem to encode it properly using Adobe Media Encoder.

I tried playing with the settings and rendering dozens of versions by now, but every time the render comes out huge in size (its a 1080p 6 minutes long movie and the encoded .avi weights gigabytes)

Please could you recommend me on either one of the built-in encoders or on an external one so that I can try it? I would really appreciate your help, absurdly this has been delaying the project by weeks by now and my client is pretty annoyed.

Thank you kindly
Tom

#2

its a 1080p 6 minutes long movie and the encoded .avi weights gigabytes
Pretty normal.

What do you need to deliver for? DVD, broadcast, web, simple playback from computer?
DVD’s require MPEG2 compression, broacast depends where you deliver to, videos for web and playback from computer can be encoded into h264 quicktimes or flash movies.

The most important parameter when compressing is your bitrate which heavily depends on the size of the final output.

#3

Thanks

I need to render both a version for playback on a computer/barco and a version for playback on a theatre screen, as far as I understand they require the same format but I might be wrong.

I actually tried using h264 using a target bitrate of around 3-4 and a max bitrate of around 5-6. I then got hundreds of megabytes instead of thousands, but on the other hand the animation was choppy. The movie shows a bunch of static images sliding in and out of the screen, and when I render it in Premiere the images don’t slide smoothly, there are tiny jumps…
I tried playing with h264, even going as far as to change the target/max bitrate to a mere 3mbps and the dimensions to 480p and still the animation was choppy.
I’m pretty desperate because I have no idea what I’m doing wrong… :frowning:

#4

Post a screenshot that shows all your settings for both outputs (Premiere and Encoder).

#5

Sure:
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7756/73353325.jpg
Not sure what you mean by encoder settings, this is the window I get after I click the “ok” button in Premiere. I then just press “Start Queue”. Am I missing anything?
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8599/18919084.jpg

#6

No, not really. I thought you render out uncompressed from premiere and encode in Adobes Media encoder, so I wanted to check both settings.
4Mb/s is way to big for that size, try 1. You may even get away with 500 - to 850 Kb/s.

#7

Thanks, I’ll try that when I get back home from the uni.
What are your recommended bitrates for 720p and 1080p?

Edit: Also, my client is frustrated at the fact that she needs a special player such as VLC to view the video (because of the codec) and can’t use one that ships with windows such as Windows. Is it a valid demand of hers that I make it viewable on windows media player? I think the only way to do that would be to use lesser and more common encoders.

#8

What are your recommended bitrates for 720p and 1080p?
I recently had to ender a 2K preview and the bitrate was 2,5Mbit/s, so it’s way less for 720p.
Render out a small portion of he clip, if it lags, decerease the bitrate, if it starts to show artefacts, increase.

Also, my client is frustrated at the fact that she needs a special player such as VLC to view the video (because of the codec) and can’t use one that ships with windows such as Windows. Is it a valid demand of hers that I make it viewable on windows media player?
Completely valid. Unfortunately I’m a Mac user and can’t tell you anything about Windows codecs. But I do know that Quicktime for Windows can playback H264.

#9

I tried rendering several versions with different bitrates and while the video looks good, the animation is slightly choppy - It looks as if it stops for a millisecond many times per second… Tons of small stops which are barely noticeable but are there…
When rendering out a preview in 3ds Max the animation looks pefectly smooth, when I render it via Premiere it gets a bit choppy.
I thought it had to do maybe with the high bitrate (taking a heavy load on the computer) but now that I’m using target 0.5 maximum 1 I don’t really know what could be causing the problem.
By the way 2 out of my 3 render attempts play extremely choppy in windows media player (the effect is very noticeable, it stops for 0.5s or so every second) but the third one is only slightly choppy in windows media player. All 3 are slightly choppy in VLC.

I’m pretty lost as to whats causing this… Do you have any ideas?

Thanks

#10

Sorry, no idea.

#11

Is there maybe a different program that I can use to render my premiere video other than adobe media encoder?

#12

What exactly do you need Premiere for in this process?

#13

I used 3 different max files to render 3 movies (each is rendered as a sequence of TIFs). I then used Premiere to convert the TIFs into videos, create transitions between them and add audio.

Would you recommend a different software for such tasks?

#14

Being an Final Cut editor I would suggest Final Cut, but that’s not the point here. What codec do you render out from Premiere? Uncompressed or something else?

#15

I didn’t even know there was a render step between Premiere and Adobe Media Player…
I go to file–>export–>media, then the popup window with all of the render settings shows up (the one I posted a printscreen of) and then I hit ok and it sends it to adobe media encoder where I hit “start queue” to begin the process. You’re saying that theres an extra step in between?

#16

I’m afraid I don’t know.

#17

Okay, thank you for your help and have a great day.

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