HARDCORE MODELING!: QOTRM: Airship Carrier


#21

hhmm first one looked like it was going to choke and pop the zep so i decreased it to 2 in the middle. The rest of the rings will have cables to support the center one


#22

here’s a small update just to see how it would look like when it’s attached to the center hangar. As you can clearly see, it looks like it isnt holding on to the center. It’s still something I’m working on :slight_smile:


#23

Those metal beam connectors look incredibly brutally heavy. I feel like it should drag the whole thing over on its side. I think that reference image you posted of the cables would be far more effective. Sort of suspension-bridge style with dozens of smaller cables bridging the gap. You could also run similar cables from the far side and underneath.

Also I just realized something about your design. The original sketches had rigid attachments between the central hanger and the support dirigibles. Those explained how they would remain offset from the main body. However, with a more flexible attachment they are going to want to float straight up above like balloons on a string. It will feel very, very weird if they are magically floating off to the side.

You may want to plan on including a rigid lattice or beam that connects the two support dirigibles together above the main hanger and holds them apart. Do it in the same style as that test ‘X’ bar design you posted below (which I think is visually stronger than the other circular design). The final look with the main hanger suspended below the two supports should be really striking.

Anyways, I’m enjoying watching this come together and look forward to seeing where you go with it.


#24

@telvin_3D: Thanks for the advices! :D. My brother commented that I’m straying away from my original design though since I felt that it would be too heavy having the 2 zeps at the side and the center at the same height level so i made the supporting ones higher but that meant figuring a way to change the wing like support it had from the orig design and so, I researched up on bridges and ferris wheels.


#25

Hi, nice updates. The faceted look on those things…is a thing that you wanted to do? IMO, it seems like a smooth surface will look better. Maybe smooth but with some extrusion here and there to insinuate some panels or whatever.

Cheers.


#26

@ JMART: oh yeah sorry about that. I forgot to leave them on smooth preview.

For the peeps giving me advices thanks really appreciate them :D. This is actually the hhmm largest project I’ve ever done so yeah, all helps and advices appreciated


#27

oook, i know I’m slow on the updates, but it’s just too tempting to play Overlord 2 :surprised, so now that I’m done with the game I can get back at this. Had to satisfy my mind :blush:

here’s how the final airship should look like:

The cylinders are the Rotor’s or propellers or, what do you call them? SO that they can support the main zep since it is metal and carrying wwii plane look a likes that I’ve sketched out and hope to be able to model for the challenge.

one thing that popped in my head was the Golden Gate Bridge. Gotta love it, it’s amazing, been 2 years since I saw it

btw, these reference pix, how do i credit them? do i give the link to the websites?


#28

ok so before I proceed further I’d like to show how far I’ve got through the new concept so far:

Hope they look more better.

PS the center zep won’t look like that. I just duplicated the supporting zep and put it in the middle so I could make the cables already. I won’t stray away from my org concept of it.


#29

whew. Ok my mind keeps flowing with alot of ideas. This other one is just a quick model which remains faithful to the original concept:

I could add additional cables to support the wings. Somehow I think this will work more since the center zep is metal:arteest:


#30

Not much updates. Been busy with school projects too. Anyway, I’m going to continue on the bridge like supports. More detailed to me and I’ve added some bolts onto the belt that holds the zep:


#31

ok, before i continue further this is the update I have on the cables.

tell me if it looks like them cables already :slight_smile: these are just smooth previews. None of them are subdived or smoothed yet


#32

they are looking very good ! keep going


#33

thank you jojo1975 :slight_smile:


#34

wow - very nice cables. Did you model them with polygons?


#35

yes sir. i shaped a plane into a cross,extruded it and applied a nonlinear twist :slight_smile:


#36

Hey pal :smiley:

I’m wondering why the cables are not rounded. It looks weird to me, tried to find some reference but couldn’t so, I’m asking you :smiley:

Have fun!


#37

hi menthol,

yeah bout that. Still trying to figure out how to make it kinda rounded still, that’s why i didn’t smooth them, just preview smooth in case I need to tweak things around :D. The references I used were these:

http://earthlingsoft.net/ssp/blog/photos/GoldenGateCable.jpeg
http://www.rithea.com/images/Folio/BrooklynBridgeCable.jpg
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_294/1217449125Gc6rLw.jpg

hope that helps. You joining too?


#38

Well, rounded edges fooled me, I thought you had edge loops around edges / bevel and wanted them to look like that. And I didn’t quite get what you mean, you are trying to make them rounded but didn’t figure out yet? If that’s the case, I’m using Helix for cable/ropes. You may know it already, maybe I’m wrong to use it, then, if you have anything better I’d like to know :smiley:

My schedule didn’t meet the challenge once again, but I’ll be around. :smiley:


#39

hiya! I’ve been tweaking around with several shapes to make the cable look better and this is what popped in my head inspiration for the idea was this:

those tiny bits reminded me of the bridge cable bundled up together and twisted so this is what I cape up with:

I created a poly cylinder 6 sides 0 caps and duplicated it around merged vertices to look like this:

I then made a cv curve and extruded it:

I then used a nonlinear twist and played around with the settings and this is the result i got:

Looks kind of like a rope though. If you can tweak it up to look more like a cable please tell me :smiley:

btw, this is how my first idea for the cable would look like if i didn’t add extra edges:

this is how it looks like when smoothed and twisted again:


#40

thanks for sharing !