Good posable doll for reference?

#1

Hello!

I’m looking for a nice anatomical doll that I can set in dynamic poses

Something like this Spiderman action figure that I have (photos are not mine) but more realistic

  [Here's the thread from conceptart.org](http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26396)
  
  Alright. besides Spidey, does anyone know a GOOD realistic/extremely posable doll that would suit my needs? 
  
  Thanks :)
#2

I don’t know how posable you need them to be, but these look great and are very posable I think (I own both of em) http://www.google.com/search?hs=1bd&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=art+s.+buck&btnG=Search

#3

I have the Art S. Buck Anatomical Models.
I think they’re the best out there as far as realism and poseability.

Edit: I didn’t see that Guardstone was talking about the same thing. Haha.

#4

Hey Ivyn, that just makes our plug all the more convincing!

#5

I’m personally not a fan of using posable dolls, because:

  1. They cannot convey proper, natural, and convincing sense of weight distribution, because they are posed by you, using fabricated ideas of how a real person would distribute his weight in that pose. It’s far better to take photo references because it’s a real living person with real sense of weight balance.

  2. They cannot help you with anatomy, hair, skin wrinkles, clothing folds…etc. Once again, photo reference are much better. All you need is a cheap digital camera, and use any available household lights. You can even pose for the references yourself using the timer function that all cameras have.

#6

thanks for the replies! :smiley:

hmm, Sir Buck is the best out there? damn…

what are those models called where the figure shows ALL the muscles and is HIGHLY accurate but its not posable at all. Half of the figure is the skeleton and the other half is muscles

and Lunatique!, those are very valid points
But I need nude models and it’s kinda difficult to find people willing to pose nekkid

plus when I set the timer, it takes so many tries to get the pose exactly how I want it.

meh :frowning:

#7

If you’re doing nudes, then the puppets are practically useless, as figure drawing is all about natural and realistic weight distribution, anatomy structure, and various states of the skin (stretched, wrinkeled, creased…etc). Using a puppet would be like trying to draw a realistic bear by looking at a Teddy Bear doll–not at all the same thing.

Many digital cameras have the option of hooking up the AV to a TV, so you can see in realtime what the camera sees.

#8

Denart,

They’re called ecorche, but I haven’t found one that’s articulated. You’ll have to make your own. I’ll buy one if you make it. :wink:

http://www.boneclones.com/ac-01.htm
http://www.reybustos.com/04er/er.html

If taking a class is not an option, there will be a DVD (coming soon) from Andrew Cawrse which will show you how to make anatomically correct resin figures.

http://www.freedom-of-teach.com/products/prod_category.php?sect=products&pid=cat_anatomy

The Spiderman figure is nice. 67 points of articulation is impressive. Best one I’ve seen yet. Sir Buck isn’t quite there yet. The head’s too big and needs more POA. The best poseable figures with POAs are only available in super hero forms. If you’re interested in a female super hero, there are some available from toy/comics stores on the web, but none of them has as many POAs as Spidey. I would love one that is more realistic and that is not a comic book character.

I think poseable dolls are great if you don’t have live models available. If you’re used to drawing live models, it’s fairly easy to use poseable dolls as reference for different poses for concept drawings. Photos are flat. This does save a lot of time because your spatial reference points are already defined on a page. Our eyes can see much more than what a camera sees, and photos lose that extra feedback we get. It’s also more challenging to draw from live models or three-dimentional models, especially for those learning to draw. To me, photos are excellent for textural references or for details that one needs to take the drawing to its completion, taking it to a more polished level.

Edit: One more link for ecorche models.
http://www.sculpt.com/catalog_98/CLAYTOOLS/Anatomical_refs.htm

#9

I feel your pain Denart.

My own solution has been to use myself as reference, and also to learn how to sculpt in a 3d program (zbrush). I know this might be a labor intensive tangent and it doesn’t compare to drawing from living models (as Lunatique has expressed) but I have found 3d modeling to be a very useful skill. Just another option to consider.

#10

Lunatique - I like this digital cam/tv option you speak of. Quite techie though

ekah - ahha! yes. An ecorche! Those things are wildly expensive tho. Making your own ecorche would be a great excercise in learning anatomy. Maybe someday…

Segvoia - yeah, I find using a large mirror and my own body (with the doors locked) is my best option as of yet.
OR i could ask the nude models at figure drawing to pose for me…hmmm :wink:

#11

Says some who’s a CG guy using highly advanced 3D software that takes months and even years to truly grasp. Hmmmm… :wink:

#12

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