feng zhu gnomon dvd???

#1

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone here might have seen this dvd from gnomon:

feng zhu vol. 3 fundamentals of shot design for environments

The question I have is, i noticed that he uses painter for this lecture, the thing is, i use photoshop.

Will I still be able to follow along using PS. Since I’ve never used painter, I’m not quite sure what the differences are.

I think he rotates the canvas, I wonder if I could do the same using Photshop without degrading the quality…

any help would be great. Thanks

#2

Anyone should be able to follow his DVD, no matter if they’re using Photoshop, Painter, or pen and paper.

#3

i’m no expert but i think rotating the canvas is one of the bigger differencies between
the two programs. in painter u can do it without degrading the image quality, in photoshop
u can just flip it horizontally or vertically, if u don’t want the quality to suffer.

never used painter, this is only what i’ve heard

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#4

fengs shot composition dvd is so amazing. he really communicates his techniques well. The tool is not important, its the ideas and technique.

#5

I have that DVD and tried Painter just to see if the canvas rotate would bring me closer to the techniques (I normally use Photoshop). But I found that the tool was too restraining and kept me from getting the real point on what Feng is trying to bring across.
I switched to plain paper(that can be rotated also :slight_smile: ) and markers, and bring it into Pshop when I want.

#6

I use Photoshop. I need no rotating canvas.

Thanks to my rotating Cintiq 21 :thumbsup:

#7

Bourgeois S.O.B.

#8

thanks for the feedback :bounce:

i’ll try out :thumbsup:

#9

one other question,

which dvd would best compliment fengs vol. 3:

ryan church vol. 5 rendering architectural interiors or

james clyne vol. 2 rendering a cinematic environment

again, I’m using PS and ryan uses painter and james is using PS. from the replys above, it seems like this doesn’t matter, so i’m thinking that this shouldn’t make a difference?

what do you all think?

#10

Well, Rumor has it… Photoshop CS3 will have a rotating canvas, and it will expand more on non destructive transforms…

Just a rumor! and CS3 won’t be out any time soon… but if those are true… mmmm =)

I enjoy painter, but i love the speed of Photoshop.

#11

If you want a rotating canvas in Photoshop and don’t want to purchase a Cintiq, try picking up a Tablet PC off Ebay. I use one with Alias Sketchbook Pro as well as PhotoShop and Artrage. I love it.

I’m thinking about taking a painting class and trying to use only Art Rage instead of real-world materials. The only problem I have with Art Rage is that it doesn’t allow you to “dry” the canvas.

I’d try Painter, however, unlike Sketchbook Pro and Art Rage, Painter is not optimized for Tablet PC functionality and thus requires that you use a keyboard.

#12

i’ll look into the clintiq :scream:

#13

speed of PS? maybe its just me but photoshop cs2 runs like ass on my computer, thats the main reason i went with painter… granted its not the greatest system spec wise but ud think that it should keep photoshop running smoothly when im just starting out a drawing.

just in case i have a gig of ram and the processor is a 2500 xp nothing special but like i said should run good.

As for the rotate canvas … i just recently found out about that and havent used it much.

#14

apsolutly right. 9 times out of the 10 its technique and not the tools. although they help in improving it or adding depth.

#15

so, would you all recommend checking out ryan church’s or james clyne’s rendering dvd.

they both look great, but i can only afford one at the moment.

#16

If you want to rotate you canvas with ps, just cock your head to the side while you paint! Or put a book under one side of your monitor to rotate it that way. I’m not even joking… rotating the canvas is only meant to view the piece of work you are doing from a different perspective right? Sorry if I sound like a “smart alec.”

#17

No, somethings are easier to draw if you rotate the canvas, paper, etc…
Things like drawing a straight line. It’s easier if the angle of the line aligns to how your arm moves.

#18

I haven’t seen the james Clyne DVD but the Ryan Church DVD’s are excellent. Hi-Tech, Low tech architecture. I learned alot from them.

#19

thanks,

i went ahead and ordered james clyne’s dvd. no need to rotate anything. thanks again. :thumbsup:

#20

Oh… So that’s what the rotating is for. I get it now. Thanks for explaining that to me.