Cool lightwave plugin/previewer !

#341

I agree that it doesn’t make sense to tease a tool that is used in high end production only. There are tons of proprietary and studio only peices of software we’d all love to have, but you have to be a part of a studio to touch that stuff, and hence it doesn’t get mixed into the daily discussion of broadly available commercial packages.

I’d love to know what the plan for PIM is in terms of targeted users and price point. I’ve only checked the PIM threads a handfull of times since the first one, and it seems I haven’t missed anything.

-s

#342

I’ll agree to some degree with the previous posts but as I said before, it sounds more like “feature creepola”. What did Motion Capture have to do with the demonstrations showcased in the past? I’ll agree that anything Motion Capture is usually high tier expense which could wipe out potential user base looking for an innovative previewer/render solution. (Read: allot less interested in PIM now as its cost may be stratospheric)

The best that could be happening is that PIM is a group of modular applications that work in a suite or as stand alone products. Could someone authorized to talk about PIM development fill in the gaps here?

#343

I was thinking the same, mocap is an odd addition …went back to the first pages and found this quote>

#344

@ Cresshead: Err… how could I explain that… lemme put it this way: Your assumptions are based on nothing…
There’s plenty of possibilities to market a product according to the different needs of various groups of users. Look at XSI, Maya, Boujou etc etc etc.

Calm down. No need to spread fear of an endorphine price point…

mike

#345

The www.pimtools.be website seems to be hacked. what is happening here?! Again, the mystery continues…

#346

this whole thread is based on ‘nothing’ so it fits in perfectly!:smiley:

#347

I would concider the information about the MoCap-features Enki posted at NT first hand, first class information… hardly based on “nothing”. :slight_smile:

But yeah, if PIM will be a complete package with all the bells and whistles, I would make an educated guess and say that it will be expensive. Maybe not as Volumedic or Face Robot, but more like 2-3 seats of FPrime + Sasquatch. However, we do not know anything about wether or not PIM will be a module-based plugin that let us by the bells and whistles as we need them…

Time will tell… or Enki may chime in and have a word…

#348

Hey Guys,

Since some of you are aching for some more info, even though its not much, but its all I want to disclose at this point.
While I still believe its a little premature, you guys can at least take a look…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ab0wx0eh80

All the best,

Oliver Hotz
Origami Digital, LLC

#349

Hmm!..

okay my guess is that it’llbe platform independant and cost at least as much as motion builder…be available on windows vista and osx and have links to maya, max, xsi and lightwave.

some where around £3000 minimum…more likley £8000+

seeing as performance capture is the ‘‘thing’’ for film studios and game studios that’s their target market.

ie people who can afford a mo cap studio and are looking for the next step forward
from motion builder.

#350

or… it doesn`t, and could provide people with an inexpensive service to do these things that they could have never done before… but then…

thats is maybe as much of a guess as yours ? :)…

i try not to speculate… patience and time will probably tell…

#351

when there’s a lack of hard information people will always speculate!

hey…i hope i’m totally wrong :smiley: and it comes out as a cheap and afforable
app or set of apps that the individual artist can afford!

#352

So how much longer are we talking here? this is getting old all this waiting.

#353

this thread is over two years old now.

PIM is still vapourware…

regards,
Zareh

#354

siggraph 2007…not far away…maybe this year?..
or maybe this decade!..
or not:D

i still reckon it’ll be a expensive suite of tools for film use and not for your average
lightwaver re plugin/price if/when it comes out.

#355

After having read this thread, I must say that PIM Tools sounds interesting. And what the programmers want to do with their program is, of course, their business. If the preview options as displayed are just a “cool side-effect” of their mocap system, then that’s what it is…

However… since most of the INTEREST on this thread (at least) is in the realtime preview, then perhaps the programmers of PIM should evaluate that interest.

Basically, I want this for Lightwave Layout. Right in the Layout screen. No need for an external window - THIS is what I would wish for… Can PIM perhaps concentrate more on this aspect and less on the mocap…? I can guarantee you that PIM sales would pretty much be 1:1 for Lightwave seats if you could accomplish something similar to what Crytek has done for the CryEngine Editor as seen below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLTRXV1KHM&feature=PlayList&p=BE3E2E394B9FE5F5&index=54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ELRWTXQ1g&feature=PlayList&p=BE3E2E394B9FE5F5&index=53

#356

maybe we’ll get a update/news in 2009?

#357

beverins
PIM has been on feature stop for well over 12 months now also as one of the orginal Pre Beta testers and not having any email contact with the maker of PIM for some time (I have tried many times).

I now have to admit I do not see PIM happening I’m just glad I was lucky enough to try it at the time of testing. :):sad:

#358

Now thats a bummer. I almost got into the beta testing but I could never work out the time difference with Enki. So close yet so far.

#359

I can’t imagine that this thing died. Maybe it went proprietary or something.

#360

Could be he just left me out of the loop for the sceond round of course one never can tell?