Computer Talk - Cinema 4D HD


#1

I now live in the incredibly hot Texas…in a house where with the air conditioning…we sometimes have to go without the air conditioning…and am about to buy a PC to render and edit in HD…

…I’m greatly concerned about the PC overheating when I render at a resolution of 1920x817…or when I edit…and confused about the CybertronPC Hellion GM1213B…it says it has six cores and seems to have six fans…I know it seems a little bit odd but…is this a good computer to buy?..I very much love the sound of six cores…fantastic!..but, it sounds like this thing would get pretty hot?

Then there is the way more expensive Lenovo Erazer X510…it’s scary…which uses [i]“The Lenovo Cooling System uses conduction to keep internal temps at optimal levels to protect the system while overclocking.”

[/i]Going back to theCybertronPC Hellion GM1213B for a second…does it use conduction too?..is that being used commonly in most computers?..or is it a new thing?


#2

If budget allows, I recommend to anyone, to get a New MAC Pro. Its never gonna overheat. Apple turned everything on its head the this NMP and created a machine that doesn’t actually produce much heat. That makes the task of getting rid of heat much small,easier and silent.
So if you don’t have to have a pc box, and you need cool and silent, without speed compromise, the nMP is in a class of its own, and frankly there is no real or serious alternative.

regards
Paul Everett


#3

Asking the same question again in the wrong forum wont get you any extra useful replies:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=2&t=1186330

Also, Im not sure how suggesting a computer 3x more expensive than the one he was looking at just because it has a quiet fan is the most useful advice.


#4

If you have some better advice maybe try giving him that , rather than doing that condescending snob thing you do. Seriously, are you this disagreeable in real life? or is this just some forum persona you’ve developed?

regards
Paul Everett


#5

He asked for advice about running a machine in a hot climate, I gave him some useful advice. You told him to spend $4000 because you like the $5 fan the case has installed. I’ll leave everyone to make their own judgements.


#6

There is no “everyone” mash. its him asking, me answering, and you just being weird for some reason only known to yourself.

your on my ignore list. Should have done that years ago.


#7

The resolution doesn’t affect how hot the machine will get, just how long it will render for. In most cases the computer will get as hot as it’s going to get under full load in a few minutes which you’d likely hit at any resolution render. Worst case scenario the machine will throttle itself and reduce the voltage for the processor to reduce the amount of heat. So the likelihood of damage occurring is low but if it’s really hot in the room then renders might take longer. This throttling typically happens between 60C and 80C depending on the hardware.

It’s more expensive because it has a much faster processor, more memory, and is overall just a better machine. The hype about the cooling is probably just a “heat pipe” style cooler which is something you can add to any desktop computer and is a common feature on most coolers these days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_pipe

It likely uses the stock AMD cooler (quick Google search showed they use AMD processors in that model). The stock AMD coolers for the last few generations are heat pipe style coolers that perform reasonably well even in hotter environments. I have a machine in a workshop that has no climate control that is used for a CNC mill and it has run in the summer without any issues and I’m in the Dallas area.


#8

Here is one way to think of it. “Hot” for humans often starts at around 80° F (26.67° C). “Hot” for electronics such as CPUs is much higher in the 140ish° F (60ish° C) zone and up.

So if your ac is off in the room that you are using the computer and you manage to hit the record (Texas high temp 120° F ) you still have available “capacity” (generally speaking) for your heat load before throttling begins as previously mentioned. Likely the room you would be working in would be absolutely unbearable for humans long before you would have trouble with the electronics overheating.