BEFORE
AFTER
MATTE PALETTE IN ACTION
My latest project that is if my laptop doesnt die soon, hard to paint whilst bluescreening, however I have not been on the net for a while due to my computer having tantrums.
I have a project based on the novel by HG Wells, Men in the Moon, this is Cavors cottage before the antigravity accident. Loads of mistakes however I have been working hard on it.
Lots more to come
Rich
PS matte palette in action as well
Never read the book but do have the film.
Nice try, needs more work on the grass to the bottom right. Drop the over all glow, looks bad. Return to the original exposure of the photo. The building looks a little out of perspective. other than that continue 
Dave.
Cheers Dave, not finished yet, dont cha love that little blue screen that comes on whilst painting.
I need a new computer asap, think I may be hitting out for a new one on payday doh!
As for the building being out of perspective, it was wonky when I photographed it, a little bit of anti keystoning will sort that out.
I also underexposed it by a stop, and it popped out with that glow, never noticed it till you mentioned it, I might do a silver treatment on it, I am working to a colour scheme, Earth is in summer with a heatwave think sepia and pastels. However when juxtaposed with the moon with its cool blues and tungsten cues.
However I might play with the tones a little more, good spot btw,
Cheers for the support mate, 
Rich
PS Computer says no…
Update, someone looking over my shoulder said it would be poignent that the moon as a character appear at night behind the cottage. Good Idea, did a speed matte and came up with this concept
Rich
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Before anyone starts moaning, I have been working on this matte tidying up and boy do I have a long list. Its like a spot the difference puzzle at times,
Keeping the glow previously mentioned just for now, it actually helps looking for detail. Need to go out and do some more photos, just as set dressing, a bike or a bunch of packing boxes,
I have a background panoramic for a background for a camera move, but hey lets finish this.
Before I get interrupted by a the infamous bluescreen of death LOL
Look forward to your advice and comments
Rich :wip:
PS James thanks for cleaning up that other thread. I still owe you that beer!
you still have the perspective off in your building,in the night version what are the glows/ghosts you have in the foreground? the glow on the moon is way over bright/scale, I can see that your building has some blury edge that need to be sharp, other than that the texture and lighting is good in the daylight version, the night one needs more work
It was a speed matte/concept not a finished product however you are right about the moon,
I recently went out at night and did some research on the way the moon lights, I was by the river and this low lying fog drifted across the water and it was very spectral, that was what I was after. If you look at the scene there is no decent foreground and this was put in.
As for building perspective I am trying to fix it, however I a little stuck how to go about it,
many thanks Jaime really appreciate it.
Rich :wip:
Before
After
I duplicated the layer and using the polygonal lasso tool did a loose selection around the house then applied copy via layer and using the transform tool and selecting skew pulled the house into shape.
I am not at all worried about the cutout area, I am an artist and can deal with that.
Was this right method to use and has it fixed it.
I looked at the reference shots of the building that I took and imported it into sketch up pro and tried making a loose maquette. There is not a right angle on any part of the building this I think has had an effect on the composition. :banghead:
Advice and comments more than welcome,
Rich :wip:
I’m confused…
The building you corrected was in your original plate, right? I think you need to correct the perspective on the building you added later (the big one in the back). It looks more like being out of perspective for me.
Nice start!
Hi Joat,
I was scratching my head for ages too, I am gonna go into sketchup later today and place a 3d box into the comp.
The foreground building was built in the Tudor period and they built there buildings wonky. This has added a knock on effect with the comp. In hindsight when I did the plate photography I should have used my on set kit. Mirror ball/18% grey ball gretag colour chart and put in a box into the research shots.
Just learnt something here is that you cannot trust tudor builders to use a plumb line.
The rear building (Blast furnace) needs looking at.
Is there anything else I need to do, as I am famous for not holding back, Because once I have finished the building I might call it done?
Thanks for stopping by
Rich
Sketch Up perspective test
Surgery in Action
Finished perspective
The surgery is over and the surgeon is pleased with his efforts, just hope that hospital gown does not show off my derriere to embarrass me.
As stated went into Sketch up Pro and did a perspective check on that by inserting a box. Boy were you guys right, I call it easel blindness were you so engrossed in what you are painting that you fail to see the whole picture.
Couple of pieces to touch up. Now for the hard part the treatment of the image. I know a lot of matte painters when presenting like to treat there image so it ends up like a old master oil painting. However I have been watching zodiac and have decided to leave it alone and make it photo real.
What do you guys think? I am really holding back the reins right now as I famous for going off at a tangent.
Rich :wavey:
I try to explain things that for me seem to be adding to the confusion…
You have created a grass / meadow(?) instead of the road. Altough there is not any clear perspective elements in there, somehow it gives the impression that the whole ground plane is in the different perspective than on the original plate. I think this has to do with the lines created in the foliage by different colored grass and some trimming on the bushes by the house. The grass area seems also to be closer matched to the perspective of the furnace rather than the original plate.
When you do the matching of the geometry of the furnace, do it with the original road exposed, since it’s the strongest perspective hint on the original picture.
Also, dont mind about the “wonkiness” of the original building. No matter how wonky it is, it surely is flawlessly in the same perspective with the rest of the picture. =)
Edit: you posted your previous post while I was writing this, and your prrogress seem to render most of this irrelevant already. Keep up the good work!
I know I have not finished and I did this in after effects just as a learning curve. I couldnt get my head round parallax and having to paint extra for it. Learnt loads, I am going to attempt it in 3ds max as a camera map this all new to me so please be gentle.
I have not included any volumetrics, nor any particles, this is going to be a slow curve for me, let me make mistakes, 
Never knew how much work it involves, I have shied away from it for too long.
Rich
I think you should get the furnace on a different plane as well. Now one expects to see it move differently than the foreground building.
I have a same problem with mattes… I can’t resist to test making something out of them before I’m finished with the actual painting. I have a camera move and a few paintovers for my london victorian city matte, but the matte itself is pretty far from being finished.
I’m trying to learn patience in execution, but it seems to be the hardest part of all.
Painting is now finished, sometimes you can over engineer…
As for the after effect plane, I put the individual planes/flats into the comp and using z depth place them in to place and then using a flattened image I line up the scale and then using the camera as a push through you would expect the correct amount of parrallax. There is tons of under painting on all the flats.
I dont know why its not working, but when I get my head around 3ds I will do a camera map, lucky that I have done all that under painting.
I found a cool way of doing water using fractal noise, I have testing this to death. On a computer that is on its way out. :argh:
The best thing is that I am learning. You guys are helping me out a lot. :wavey:
Rich
I am going to leave it at this stage, I am researching on how to use 3ds max on how to camera map.
Sometimes you have to step back from the easel/wacom and leave it alone.
Many thanks to everyone who helped I really appreciate your help and advice. I hope that others have learnt from my mistakes. My aim is to become a matte painter, you are all at the start of my journey. This is why I am a prolific poster. If you like it let me know,
Hope you follow me on my next matte which will be part of this film. :wavey:
Rich
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