Blender 2.8 has BEEN RELEASED! :)

#21

By many things and in many ways :slight_smile:

Colored icons.
More than as double as much icons than Blender.
A user configurable toolbar at the top.
Reorganized menus.
Cleaned up menus without this much double entries.
Extended User Interface. Even with Blender 2.80 you have hotkey only tools.
Our own keymap. Not a half baked hybrid between all the other apps out there.
A better readable standard theme.
Left aligned text!
Some neat new addons to improve usability, like the reset 3D View addon.
And much more.

But the code is just half of the show. The Blender manual for example is basically unsearchable, has a odd structure, and is more or less useless for users. We work at a completely new manual, rewritten from scratch.

See also here:

But i donā€™t want to hijack this Blender thread really. So i would suggest to continue the discussion in the Bforartists thread.

#22

I donā€™t think itā€™s hijacking the thread at all - I think ALL people interested in 2.8 need to check out your product, if itā€™s as good as youā€™re purporting it to be!
ā€¦so youā€™re gonna release all this stuff entirely for free??!! God Bless you Sir, thatā€™s Amazing! So how do you make money then???!!

Are you gonna make some Youtube tuts for this thing, the user interface, like you did last time around? ā€¦cause without that, your ā€œcool interfaceā€ will be uselessā€¦

When you say itā€™s ā€œalphaā€, if I get it and start using it, itā€™s not gonna crash or anything, right? Itā€™s just a new interface on top of what should be a STABLE 2.8 underneath, yesā€¦?

To repeat, thanks. I donā€™t know how you guys do it.

#23

Yes, Bforartists is free and open source. I donā€™t make money at all. I do it for fun.

We will of course also create tutorials, once Bforartists 2 has implemented all features and goes final. The new manual is also permanently growing. I donā€™t think that the interface is useless without that tutorials though. The very most of the Blender tutorials should also work with Bforartists. Itā€™s the same tool set. You just may need to dig at other places for the needed tool.

Alpha means, it is not feature complete yet. There is still lots of things in development. But we have never released a unstable version. It is indeed the stable Blender version 2.80 version underneath. Thatā€™s why we say it is fully functional.

#24

Hey - Iā€™m sending you a PM, please check.

#25

Hey Tiles, I dug around yesterday and saw that youā€™ve made an RPM of the software, and it was a recent build, too - awesome!! I tried to install it on my .deb system with ā€œalienā€, wasnā€™t working - could you please make a Ubuntu-compatible version?? :slight_smile: Iā€™m sure it would help a Lot of folksā€¦

#26

The current version should be Ubuntu compatible. It compiled fine here the last time i tried.

The rpm version is not under our control, we just link to it. You could contact the one who distributes it.

#27

Eh no - I meant binaries, to install with sudo apt-getā€¦

#28

We havenā€™t managed to create binaries yet, sorry. Itā€™s not that we havenā€™t tried. But this requires to compile with static libraries. And we have a problem with told libraries to get them static. Especially with Boost. I have no idea what kind of workarounds the Blender developers uses here, to compile with static libraries is not documented. But we cannot get it to work so far. And i have no linux installed, i work at Windows.

What works is to compile it by yourself. Tested in a VM, and this works fine. We have a tutorial for Ubuntu 17 here: https://www.bforartists.de/data/tuts/Building_with_Ubuntu17.pdf

#29

OK, thanks, Iā€™ll try it.

#30

Hey, btw, will any plugins or addons installed in it, work? The same way they do in Blender itselfā€¦? Or will any special ā€œconfiggingā€ be needed?

#31

We had some problems with a handful addons in Bforartists 1. But what works in Blender 2.80 should also work in Bforartists 2.

Please file a bug report when you find a Blender addon that does not work in Bforartists 2.

#32

OK, I tried it, it didnā€™t work. The install_deps.sh script stopped - something to do with a compile failing, I think :frowning: Iā€™m on Bodhi Linux 5 Apppack Version. Now what?

#33

You could install a Linux version that is supported. Ubuntu or Debian :slight_smile:

#34

Bodhi is based on Ubuntu, bro :slight_smile:

#35

But it is not Ubuntu : )

Linux is a real drama. It is the nightmare of every software developer. You have over thousand different distributions with a dozen contradicting desktop solutions, package manager and and and. Everything is based at everything, but doesnā€™t work together. It is simply impossible to create a linux software that runs on all distributions. And congratulations for using exact such a distribution where Bforartists doesnā€™t work. It can be everything.

I have installed it flawless at Ubuntu so far. I think it was Ubuntu 18 that i have last tried. Thatā€™s the platform where i personally can say it works. But even this is no guarantee, since Ubuntu developers kills things with every new distribution for no reason. And i am no Linux user. I donā€™t like this OS for above reason.

A last thing that we could try is that you could tell us the error that you get with install_deps.h. Maybe we find the problem.

#36

Iā€™ve PMed you the error message.

#37

Oh, and I do hear what youā€™re saying btw.

#38

Thanks for the report.

The error message already says where the problem is. The OpenImageIO Library fails to compile at your Linux version. And as told, this can be everything. Most probably a missing or not fitting dependency for this library.

I wish i could help. But i am no linux user. I am of no help with this OS :confused:

#39

I have created a tracker issue for your problem now. Could you please post the FULL compile log there? There is currently quite a bit missing.

#40

Er - I refuse to use Github cause I hate MS. Iā€™m posting the log in a PM - I hope thatā€™s alright?
I have a feeling Iā€™m just running out of RAMā€¦ do you think that could be?