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#161

nah im just learning over the net with you guys :thumbsup:

#162

That’s great! Looking forward to your continued participation. :slight_smile: Feel free to try some of the Exercises posted at the beginning of this thread. Definitely useful exercises! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#163

ASSIGNMENT 3: MASTER COPY MINI 2-5-10 SKETCHATHON

For your next assignment, I propose doing a 2-5-10 minute set of drawings from Master Drawings which I will post here. You have 1 WEEK, and post your results here! :slight_smile: Whatever stage you are at is fine ~ if you are just testing your wacom, that is fine.

       What I recommend is the following: [b]for each of the Master Drawing Reference images you choose to work from, do 3 timed poses. [/b]Start from the beginning with each drawing ~ don't build on top of just one drawing, but do 3 SEPARATE drawings.
       
       So, for these Reference Master Drawings:
       
       [b]1. Do a 2 minute drawing from the Master Drawing.[/b]
       
       Capture the ESSENCE. Draw fast. Get down the essential information. Do not draw details at this stage!
       
       [b]2. Do a 5 minute drawing from the [/b][b]Master Drawing.[/b]
   Same deal. Capture the most information you can. Think gesture! 
      
       [b]3. Do a 15 minute drawing from the [/b][b]Master Drawing.[/b]
   Again, the emphasis is on speed! 
       
   [b]      Here is a good example of a Gesture Drawing:[/b]
 
        
         [img]http://www.cwturner.com/portfolio_lg/gesture_girl.jpg[/img]
  
         http://www.cwturner.com/portfolio_lg/gesture_girl.jpg
  
  [b][u]Here are the Master Drawings to be copied in 2-5-10 Minute drawings:[/u]
  
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http://www.wga.hu/art/r/raphael/7drawing/12psyche.jpg

http://www.arthistory.ed.ac.uk/images/romeraphfarn.jpg

http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/~mjoseph/CP/PVL.jpg

 
 
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 [left]       [b]Work in the medium of your choice. 

[/b] Don't be shy about your efforts! Post your work here ~ we're all here to learn! :)
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        Looking forward to seeing everyone's work! :)
        
        Cheers,
        
        ~Rebeccak
#164

15 Minute Sketchathon - Beginners’ Edition

For those of you who wish to participate in the 15 Minute Sketchathon, but are too shy to post in that thread, why not use the daily References which are posted here:
I5 Minute Sketchathon - Thread 1: Reference
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=298699

And post your sketches here in this thread (The Beginners’ Lounge)? :slight_smile:

Looking forward to seeing your posts! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#165

I also did the Raphael one (first) with ballpoint pen, it turned out nice… I guess…

#166

exercise 1
Reference : Andrea Del Sarto - Study of John The Baptist (Anatomy Lessons from The great Master page 138

Hello everybody sorry for the late entry, but here goes - I think today is a bad drawing day for me, never get anything right really >__>. …please pardon the bad drawing:sad: I’ll move on to the exercise 2 and do some drawing from the reference, will post them soon. gotta ctach up :smiley:

:love:Becca, the beginner’s sketchatoon is such a good idea - i was actually thinking about the same thing last night and was about to ask you hehe

#167

Originally posted by Dreamy Kid: Hello everybody sorry for the late entry, but here goes - I think today is a bad drawing day for me, never get anything right really >__>. …please pardon the bad drawing:sad: I’ll move on to the exercise 2 and do some drawing from the reference, will post them soon. gotta ctach up :smiley:

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8939/saucer0vr.jpg

Not bad at all! I think the head is a bit small in the second image. Apart from that, you have some nice rhythm and opposing curves, and a nice touch! :thumbsup: Don’t be too hard on yourself, particularly when you are starting out. :slight_smile:

:love:Becca, the beginner’s sketchatoon is such a good idea - i was actually thinking about the same thing last night and was about to ask you hehe

That’s great! I should have thought of it before…but you guys should feel free to make suggestions, this is your thread ~ let me know the direction you would like to go in, and I am happy to accomodate that. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#168

Originally posted by lunat1k:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v…a/gesture09.jpg

I also did the Raphael one (first) with ballpoint pen, it turned out nice… I guess…

lunat1k,

My apologies, I missed your post! As usual, you have a nice line quality to these ~ Maybe you might try experimenting with line width? Perhaps even using a slightly thicker brush? Just a suggestion. :slight_smile: You’re doing a good job of getting just the essence ~ keep going! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#169

Hello,

ich have done the 2nd assignment. I needed a little change during my work;-) Here are the results. A 2,5,7, and a 15 min. sketch.

#170

Hi everyone, I’ve seen this thread recently and got interested in doing the assignments, but I’m not quite sure if I got the right meaning of “gesture” here (the dictionary didn’t help much). I think I understand what the basic goal is, but maybe I’m missing something, so, could anyone tell me what do you mean by “gestures”?:curious:

#171

DanielNasc,

Welcome aboard! :slight_smile:

To answer your question (which is a great one, by the way) :slight_smile: I Googled Gesture Drawing and came up with the following article:

http://www.ndoylefineart.com/gesture3.html

Feel free to check that out, and then post any questions here you may have!

Looking forward to your posts! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#172

Guys / Gals, :slight_smile:

Check out this really useful thread on the Anatomy Forum when you get the chance:

Simple theories and excercises to improve your drawings
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=302282

Kirt Stanke is a WIP Forum leader a nice guy who has posted a great starting exercise!

The link the the “Simple theories” thread has also been posted at the beginning of this thread.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#173

Oh, now I get it!Thanks Rebeccak, the article is great!:thumbsup:
It’s a very interesting concept, don’t you think that link could be copied to the first post? (it’s still good reference material after all :slight_smile: )
Gonna put some effort on my sketches this week.

#174

DanielNasc,

Awesome, great to hear that the article was helpful! :slight_smile:

I did add the link to the first post, and reorganized it a little bit to make things easier to find. :slight_smile:

Looking forward to seeing your sketches! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#175

Hi Rebecca,

thank you for the link to the article on gestures!

This is actually a good chance for me to repost a question I brought up in the sketchathon. It was quickly swept away due to the incredible speed there.

Is it possible/advisable to gesture sketch parts of the body? Can you gesture sketch the head?! Hands? How do you do this? Is there a method you have for simplifying an apporach to head or hand gestures?

thanks for reading

#176

Mr. Mu,

Thanks for the question, it’s a good one! :slight_smile:

Here is another article I found on Gesture Drawing: (I’ll add it to the first post as well)

It doesn’t exactly address the question of whether or not you should do gesture drawings for individual parts of the body, but I absolutely think that you can, and should. I basically think that the basis for ANY good drawing is a good gesture. The Gesture captures the essential LIFE and MOVEMENT of the pose, and that principle applies to the individual parts of the body in the same way that it applies to the body as a whole.

Hope this helps. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#177

Hello everyone, I am Elisa. I am not sure if this is the place but I don’t think I should start a new thread when there is already one for beginners. I am super new to the whole art scene, concentrated on all the science and technical subject from young. I always had an interest but never the chance to learn art, so with my first paycheck I bought a wacom tablet a week ago. And this is my first 2 pieces of work

http://elisaang.multiply.com/photos/photo/8/1.jpeg
http://elisaang.multiply.com/photos/photo/8/3.jpeg

The old man is me trying to do this tutorial http://www.gfxartist.com/features/tutorials/14033
it is obviously far from done, and there is 1001 things wrong with it. But I can’t do it ! I can’t make the colours blend ( i tried just add water, and a brush with resat to 0%), I have no idea what brush to use to make those lines, when I use a detail brush of size 2 pixels, the lines are so thin and hard, if I go to a bigger size the lines are too thick ? In the tutorial, the man magically transformed to look like the photograph, something I simply couldn’t acheive. And his eyes look very wrong, so does his whole face…

Can anyone point me in the right direction? Should I start with something simpler? How do I do those highlights, that don’t seem to be entirely blended, but are not standing out like a sore thumb. I tried using airbrush, didn’t work, so I blended it, and it lost the ‘highlight’ effect.

I will try the assignments tonight hopefully I will have more luck with it.

By the way I am using painter IX, so any tips or pointers to doing details, blending in painter?

Thanks for reading !

#178

Hi and welcome,

Can’t comment on the manga stuff, as I am not into this. But the man is already quite nice.

Well that’s because it wasn’t magic. :slight_smile: There’s much in that tutorial which is pretty advanced. If you find Ron Lemen helpful why not start with his lesson on values in basic forms? Everything we see is made up of basic forms and you can practise shading and seeing light values. That tut helped me understand mind the egdes and light/shadow areas on various shapes in the face and body.

Do greyscale pictures first, before tackling colour.

I tried fully-fledged coloured pics, too, before I even knew how to keep an eye on values. I got this tip from Rebeccak in one of the Open Figure Drawing Workshops and it really changed the way I look at the subjects I want to draw and paint.

  • Black for shadows, grey for midtones, white for highlights.
  • Blending to create appropirate edges (hard in bright light areas, soft in the shadows, for example) There’s a nice rather application independant article on blending in the tutorial section of CGTalk.

and finally: do gesture sketches! try the assignments as you said! They are a great help to do away with the frustration of trying to do things perfectly. Keep posting. You have come to the right place!

And you just wait til rebecca gets hold of you!:scream: You will go off like a rocket…

#179

Mr. Mu,

Fantastic comments! :thumbsup:

lil_fairy,

Welcome aboard! :slight_smile: I am glad to have you join us. One thing I would ask is that you copy and paste the URL of each of your images (one at a time, obviously) into the little yellow sun / mountain icon in the Edit Post Text Editor. That way we can see your images, and not links. :slight_smile:

I have worked up a little review of your piece based on the fantastic tutorial which you referenced:

http://www.gfxartist.com/features/tutorials/14033

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The classic beginner’s mistake is to think that eyes are high up in the face. This is not so ~ [b]EYES FALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FACE.

[/b]The other thing to consider is the various widths of the face. If you’ll notice in your image, there is very little width (less than the width of the eye) between the outer corners of either eye and the sides of the head. Observe how in the Reference photo and in Ron’s drawing, there is much more width between the outer corner of the eyes and the sides of the head.

Also note the width of the nose. I think in your image, the nose is disproportionately wide relative to the other features of the face.

Constructing facial features is a matter of determing relative heighths, widths, and sizes of the individual features of the face. It takes practice ~ be patient with yourself, and do practice.

Here is another thread on this Forum which I think you might find quite helpful: :slight_smile:

BEGINNERS’ Drawing Workshop - Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain - With Margie
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=269026

I also recommend getting at least one or two books on Anatomy or Drawing. I really recommend Burne Hogarth’s “Dynamic Anatomy”.

I think Mr. Mu provided the link to the Blending Tutorial, which is a great one ~ definitely check it out! :slight_smile:

Also, take a look at the shading tutorial, which starts in Post #3 of this thread:

Rebecca Kimmel’s Anatomy Review 003: SHADING TUTORIAL AND HUMAN SKULL EXERCISE
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259291

Check out these links at your leisure, and let us know if they are helpful. :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak
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#180

Wow those comments and especially the pictorial review was very very enlightening. Thank you so very mcuh! I immediately see my flaws. And yes I think i should not start with colors first… actually I have seen the blending thread/tutorial, I did try it out too. It was around erm 70% successful? I think I will try to start from the basics first for now. I did a few sketches from the assignments (it was fun!) when I was supposed to be working… these days I keep surfing cgtalk rather than working. I think I will get fired soon…

By the way, if you haven’t noticed, I have absolutely 0% background in art. I have no idea about colors, I am a programmer, and when I had to do a website I picked the worse colors ever that even I couldn’t stand it, I went to copy the colors from the sony website… I like cute things but can never draw my own…I really hope hope wish that one day I can. If a miracle should happen and one fine day (years later) I can produce decent art, I will feel that I finally achieved something that I can be proud of. I used to be very satisfied being able to program my own applications in school, but now I am working, I found that I am usually modifying other people’s work. Not satisfying at all…

ok so these are what I just did, I did over shoot the 2min limit by a little… :frowning: so I think that was cheating
I will trying to colour (in one colour) after I do the 10 mins one of the 2nd assg. Also i will try get the ‘Dynamic Anatomy’, hopefully tomorrow? I do not have a scanner, so all of these are done on my wacom.

(assg 1 2mins)

(assg 1 5mins)

(assg2 2 mins)

I did what you told me to, pasting the url in the little icon. Hope it doesn’t come out too big.