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#921

I did some playing around in photoshop but it felt weird. So, I downloaded the free version of artrage 2 and sketched some heads. No reference used so things aren’t quite right but I wanted to see what I remembered. I tried playing with a bit of perspective but I don’t think I was very successful.

(edit: these are done with my tiny 4x5 grapphire, I need to upgrade!)

enialadam,

Nice job on those. I need to try some of those gesture drawings I think. :slight_smile:

hellsgfx,

I think your painting came out well. Especially for a first! The edge looks a little blurry, maybe you could harden that a bit? I haven’t tried painting yet so I don’t really have much else to say but it looks good to me. :slight_smile:

#922

i dont know if this is the right place for it, but i’ve been working on tutorials and i’m doing a series of studies with skintone, technique and anatomy using Painter. i used this tutorial and had a lot of fun with it. i’m trying to create my own style…because my old way was not something i felt proud of (sketching over a pic and then painter vector style then using “just add water” to blend.) anyways…if this is the wrong spot to post someone let me know.

also, i havent started any of the exersizes yet as i just got my new tablet and i suck at sketching with it…so i have to sit down with a pencil sometime.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/MrsB_photos/eye.jpg

#923

MrsB, nice eye. I think it should be fine for you to post it here but I’m sure Rebecca will let you know for sure as soon as she drops by. So what kind of tablet did you get? I want to upgrade mine as it’s really too small to sketch with I think. 4x5 is ok for texture work I think, which is why I originally got it. Now I just wish I would of got a bigger one that’s easier to sketch on. Anyways, I look forward to see what you can do with yours! :slight_smile:

#924

gnoway - lol…i got a little 4x5 Manhattan Tablet. never heard of the brand in my life, hubby bought it for me and i think it might have just been the cheapest. its alright though, he reckons its just a repackaged Wacom…not sure where he gets that from. i think the size is fine for me at the moment, but when i get better with my digital stuff and i have the funds i want to go for an inuendos…the spiffy one with the screen you draw directly onto…and big sized thankyou muchly. lol. thanks for the comment on my eye. :slight_smile:

#925

hmm yea, i’ve never heard of that one. I think the one you draw on the screen is a Cintiq. Those are nice I bet but I can’t justify the price, maybe if I was a pro in the industry. I’d settle for an intuos 6x8 for now myself but my 4x5 grapphire will just have to do until I can afford to upgrade one day.

#926

ah my bad. i get confused reading the wacom website sometimes…lol…and intuos not inuendous…lol. i really gotta check these things before i type.

i dont think the small ones are too bad. i mean, occasionally i find myself accidently drawing of the edge, but thats only happened like twice until i got used to actually using a tablet.

#927

MrsB:

No they’re not bad or anything. I’m sure a small intuos would feel nicer than the graphire I have as well, mine feels almost toy-like. It’s just I have a 19 inch monitor and it makes it difficult to translate the size, at least for me.

I hope to have some more torso studies posted soon. I just haven’t had much free time to sketch. :frowning:

#928

ugh, TELL me about it. my daughter has been teething and i dont get more than an hour to myself at night at the moment, so no sketches for me. cant wait to see some more of your stuff though. :slight_smile:

#929


I started taking some life drawings classes at the NY art students league heres one I did there. I guess it was about 20mins - half hour

#930

can i please join? This is a awsome thread!

#931

Ah, just back in town and trying to catch up with everything! :slight_smile:

hellsgfx,

That’s a great job with the apple painting, and I hope to see you back here! :slight_smile:

gnoway,

Nice job with these digital heads! I can’t recall if I’ve asked you your age, but I would encourage you to work traditionally (old fashioned pencil / paper) if you are planning to apply to art colleges. If you are in college or already out, then not to worry, but colleges have a bias against digital work in admission portfolios, so that’s a thing for all pre college people to consider. Just passing that along in case I haven’t already. :slight_smile:

MrsB,

Looks like you’ve got a great start with the eye, and I’d like to see you attempt a whole face! :slight_smile:

JonM,

Always good to see Life Drawings! You should definitely take a look at this thread:

Life Drawings - Post Your Life Drawings! From Class or Workshops

Looking forward to seeing more of these! :thumbsup:

neacser,

You are more than welcome to join in! :slight_smile: Feel free to post your work, and to tell us a bit about yourself.

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#932

Hi,

My images are quite long vertically, so I am just linking through these thumbnails:

I have taken some drawing courses in the past, but the teaching style didn’t really click for me. It was a Bauhaus influenced school (which I kind of associate with craftsmanship), but the drawing courses seemed to take unnatural leaps to me – going from gesture straight to contour, and into colour, etc.
I am finding myself enormously more comfortable with the material from Vilppu, and Loomis. The heavy emphasis on the 3D forms, and disecting the object for the simple shapes in them appeals to me very much (perhaps as 3D is my main area of interest, and it seems pretty natural in my mind). Right now I find that I have some very poor fundementals – applying perspective to the figure, and being able to break from drawing what I think something looks like (like a nose is a line instead of a really being made up of a rather elaborate collection of planes) rather then what is actually there. I should point out that at the end of drawing courses I started to make progress (even the slowest people can make progress when confronted by 40 hours with live models! ;)). Unfortunately after the classes there was a long lay over when my priorities (at the time film) kept me from practicing enough, and by the time I had the oppurtunity again I had lost a fair amount of my gains.

Then again maybe book learning just appeals to me… or I’m starting to understand that it’s work ethic that matters, not empheral ‘talent’. I am extremely appreciative of critque, it saves you hundreds of hours in self analysis.

Right now I am doing a lot of gesture drawings, and then taking 2-3 mins to bring some three dimensionality to the figure. I’m just starting to feel like I can sketch out a figure with enough information that I’ll be able to read it again later.

I’m not really looking to do extremely polished paintings etc, but I would dearly love to be able to do sketchs of scenes that incorporate characters, and to be able to draw well enough to concept and communicate people/costume/creatures for my own projects. Lordy… polished or not thats a tall order, give or take 3 years I might get there I guess :slight_smile:

#933

Rebeccak,

I’m 25, I don’t think you’ve asked before. Sadly I don’t have the time or resources to pursue college courses. Well maybe something part-time at the local community college but right now I’m just a hobbyist. I actually split my limited time between my almost one year old son, art, programming and mathematics(for games programming). The unfortunate side effect of this is that I’m not a pro in any of these but I have fun with each of them.

I could stop the digital stuff if that is still the recommendation. I don’t really like the size of my tablet anyhow, I just doodle on it now and then. Nothing too serious. :slight_smile: I’m interested in improving my overall artistic ability so whatever you recommend I will listen to. I am interested in digital but until I get a “real” tablet aka intuos :slight_smile: I probably won’t mess with it much.

JonM,

Nice life drawing there. Keep em coming!

kary,

Those studies look very good.

Here’s another Hogarth torso study from me. I was gonna do some shading but since I haven’t posted anything in a while and I don’t know when I’ll get more free time, I decided to go ahead and scan it in.

#934

Hello, I’m new to this forum, and quite happy that I stumbled upon it, since it is a very vast and useful resourse for an artist. :slight_smile:

I’m 17 years old, and I’ve been drawing for as long as I’ve been able to hold a pencil or crayon, so in terms of mileage I don’t think of myself as a beginner, but most certainly a bumbling newbie when it comes to the technical side of drawing.
I’ve have attended to one drawing class and one painting class, as well as a painting weekend workshop when I was younger, but none of these taught me much, when I was a child it didn’t catch my interest (I was more interested in drawing my ‘way’), and the more recent ones attempted to teach me to paint before I had learned to draw.

I have seen a lot of progress in my work the last few years, but I realize that I have only a very basic idea of anatomy and most of the time I don’t even use reference and I draw in a very stylized way without fully knowing the principles behind it.

So hopefully the constructive criticism I can get in this thread can help me get better and closer to where I would like myself to be in drawing.

I’ll post a few of my drawings in this thread later, as well as some excercises, but I have been having technical difficulties with my scanner. :smiley: Until then, you can check out my deviantart account: http://purka.deviantart.com for my latest work. (all of which has been done digitally, I’m afraid. Since I work with a touchpad (!!) on a laptop, it’s not as good as what I accomplish with pencil. But I enjoy working in a digital medium more. :slight_smile: I expect this to change in the future.)

That being said, this is a very cool thread! So many good works being made in here. :smiley:

#935

Those are well done gnoway, very strong lines. It’s nice to have seen a pure line version, the shaded would be interesting, but more as a side by side rather then instead of :slight_smile:

#936

Hi Rebeccak

My name is Jeffery Lu and I am 15 years old. I have been drawing since I was very, very young. I used to learn to draw for 3 years before and I started to learn human anatomy about the beginning of last year on my own.

I study anatomy & art by using old masters’ works, and notes.

these are the work I done before.

C&C are most welcome.

Cheers~

#937

This seems like an interesting topic I might need to participate in. Some may have seen my examples in my sketchbook.

I will look at what I need to do in this topic and see what I can come up with.

#938

[left]kary,

Great to see your work! :slight_smile: I did a bit of a paintover for one of your drawings, hope this helps:
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[left]The main thing to try to do when drawing is to ANALYZE, not COPY. This is something Vilppu stresses and it’s the best way, imo, to go about drawing the figure. There are a variety of great resources in terms of books and DVDs ~ there are Vilppu’s publications, Bridgeman’s books, the Hogarth and Loomis books, etc. All of these guys teach form and structure, and I think if you start to do Master Copies of these artists and of others, you will start to see a great change in your work, as well as in the way that you see things.

I always encourage people to do Master Copies ~ see this useful thread with links to Master Copy Resources:

Master Copy Resources
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=354836

Looking forward to seeing more of your drawings! :slight_smile:

gnoway,

As you are not a high school student, I have no qualms about encouraging you to do digital work. That being said, I think the best way to master the human form is traditionally (at least at first). I think your studies are going quite well and I would encourage you to keep doing these in pencil. :slight_smile:

purka,

Hi there, welcome aboard! :slight_smile: I took a look at your deviantart account and the main thing that I would recommend is to work if at all possible from life ~ do you have access to life drawing courses? ~ and also to avoid copying the manga style when learning the human figure. I would definitely encourage you as well as others here to try the Exercises posted to the beginning of this thread, and to post your results here. Looking forward to seeing your work! :slight_smile:

neacser,

Welcome aboard as well! What amazing talent for a 15 year old ~ it’s fantastic to see! :slight_smile: These are all very solid studies ~ from what references (life, master works, etc.) are you working? I would very much enjoy seeing more of your work, and would encourage you as well as others to create your own Anatomy Thread, here:

Personal Anatomy & Sketchbook Threads
http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200

See this thread for information about creating a personal Anatomy Thread first:
FAQ: Can I Create My Own Anatomy Thread?
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=341167

Links to all Personal Anatomy Threads can be found here:
Anatomy Threads of Individual Users
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2817397&postcount=12

Looking forward to seeing more of your work! :thumbsup:

Fl3wk,

Good to see you here, I would also encourage you to try the Exercises at the beginning of this thread, which will get you into doing some Master Copies. :slight_smile:

Great stuff everyone, keep up the good work! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

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#939

Here is the 3minutes task. All my work will be done in photoshop so that I can get used to the medium and also the wacom. This sketch was done with just the default brush settings. My next work may be dont with a custom touch to it.

#940

Fl3wk, very impressive studies! :thumbsup:

neacser, such talent for a 15 year old! :applause: I especially like the portrait of the old man.

Rebecca, I’m pretty sure there are no life drawing courses being offered in this area (especially at the moment, since they’re usually in the winter), but I’d have to check. I’ll make sure to bring my sketch book to the places where I go where there are a lot of people, but most of them don’t stay put long enough for me to draw. :wink: Which I guess means I’ll have to become faster at drawing.

I realized a while ago that I was getting more and more ‘cramped’ when drawing with my current style, and also getting frustrated when I could feel that my far too little knowlegde of anatomy was making it very difficult to draw what I wanted. So there’s no need to worry about me copying the manga style any more, even if I’m in love with the stylized way of drawing, I’ll try to learn the rules before I attempt to break them. :smiley:

I’ll try to make some gesture drawings from the reference that the sketchathon supplies. They’re all such interesting poses! :slight_smile: