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#481

hi Maladie. i just steal your work and little bit of suggestin on your layout.

A.B.
at A. i just brifly draw horizontal grid, always find (or make) vanishing point first. I assume from green field to yellow hill are far enough from foreground character, and has slope(spell?). which is not bad so far. except one thing.

at B. i retouch up character’s guesture 'cause keep bugging me was yellow hill and ‘folk’ has parallel line. and try give him a weight. redefine yellow hill’s outline(hope it has more dynamic look)

just my opion as this thread’s one of family, don’t take too seriously(not a profesional on layout neighter… i also learning on drawing)
keep it up:)

#482

No, it’s great that your helping me! We beginners should help each other indeed!

So if I understand you correctly, the only thing you think is off, is the farmers position and hayfork-alignment? That’s great, because I haven’t paid any attention to his anatomy so far, that will be easily fixed. I will sort of swap the weight of the hayfork and the little house in the background, then.

Good tip on the vanishing point. That is one thing I didn’t get so far.

Rebecca, if you have time to spare (if you don’t, then don’t bother!!) I would love to hear what you have to say about all this.

#483

Strum,

Thanks for the great tips! :slight_smile:

Maladie,

I recommend checking out those perspective tutorials, but also the easiest way to check what a similar perspective / composition might look like is to find reference on the web. I would just google something like ‘field’ or farm and then find something that looks similar to what you want to do.

The other thing is to work on value relationships, and breaking up space. You want your image to be interesting, not just generic, so brainstorm several comps, not just one. :slight_smile:

Looking forward to your progress!

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#484

Rebecca, you’re right…as always:).

I’m getting a little depressed now, though. People always used to say I was good at drawing and if I work something out in detail I know I can make it look good.
However if I get back to these basics everythings looks totally clumsy, like the work of a four-year old…

I’m going to try again, I already read the tutorials but I somehow just don’t know what something looks like until I work it out in detail.

Hmmm…I’ll try harder.

#485

No, it’s great that your helping me!

Thanks for your kindness…

Good tip on the vanishing point. That is one thing I didn’t get so far.

vanishing point makes RIGHT prespective on your scene. i using ref pic.as mentioned by rebbeca. or using 3d programe to setup my scene.

You want your image to be interesting, not just generic, so brainstorm several comps, not just one. :slight_smile: ~Rebeccak

Here WE go (include me…)

#486

Rebecca, you’re right…as always :).

Ha, I’m not nearly always right, but thank you. :smiley:

I’m getting a little depressed now, though. People always used to say I was good at drawing and if I work something out in detail I know I can make it look good.
However if I get back to these basics everythings looks totally clumsy, like the work of a four-year old…

Yeah, these beginning stages can be painful, I know. But I honestly think they help the final, rendered product look better. Psychologically if it helps (I know I play a lot of these tricks with myself to avoid getting bummed) render a tiny area, just show you know what you are shooting for in terms of the finished look ~ maybe even do this is a separate document. That proves to the part of you that’s getting depressed that you are good at rendering, and allows you to continue at the comping stage without erroneously thinking that you ‘can’t’ draw. :wink:

I’m going to try again, I already read the tutorials but I somehow just don’t know what something looks like until I work it out in detail. Hmmm…I’ll try harder.

Why not try a detailed comp, just small? :slight_smile: BTW, all of these are only suggestions. We all work best in our own ways, so none of what I am saying is something which you have to do. :slight_smile: Don’t let me interrupt your process as you are the one who knows how you work best. :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#487

Soooo…I’m really proud of myself because I gave it yet another try. I did what you said and kept it gray to ‘see’ the light and dark better. I hope you think this has improved a little bit:).

I am now facing the same brick wall as in my writing: sometimes you have to do things you don’t know how to do and therefore seem boring…but I know I just have to keep going.

By the way this is hilarious: my boyfriend thinks my last update is a fantastic naive painting, like ‘something symbolic is interrupting a chliche rural scene’. I explained to him I’m aiming for something else…HA HA.

#488

Hello all. I am wanting to improve my drawing skills. I have never really done any 2d art. Done some 3d modeling. I used to draw landscapes and houses 15 years ago or so. People were never my strong suit. I am wanting to improve my skills to help my abilities as a modeller and to have something fun to do when without a computer.

So here is my first post in this thread with a 2 min/5 min sketch. Have not done the 10/12 min yet. Will post that when I get a chance to do it.

#489

Maladie,

Try to divide the space on the left of the picture plane more interestingly ~ the key with composition is to break up space. You want shape contrasts as well as light and dark contrasts ~ right now, the composition is really divided in thirds.

Take a look at this great Composition Tutorial by Philip Straub:

http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3275&page=

He’s got a lot of great rules and tricks to use to compose a really dynamic composition. :slight_smile:

nomadicrain,

Welcome aboard! :slight_smile: Your sketch is looking good ~ I think the key with drawing is doing a LOT of it. I recommend trying some of the exercises posted to the beginning of this thread, or to do Daily Sketches on a regular basis ~ using the 15 Minute Sketchathon Reference and sticking to that short format. :slight_smile:

I’d like to see more of your drawings here ~ you’ll definitely see your improvement if you continue to do many of these. :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#490

like the work of a four-year old…

i wish i can draw like 4yrs old… my daughter’s recent work…

#491

Yeah, I agree, that’s better than mine LOL:applause:.

I’ll try yet again. Rebecca, I know what you mean about contrasting shapes. It’s just that I only ever drew figures and characters, and spent all my time working out their proportions and details. In highschool already my art teacher accused me of ‘drawing dolls’:hmm:. I think it’s time to move beyond that…or so I will try.

#492

Still done with a mouse, my local store was out of stock for wacoms :frowning:

#493

Tizianoadmirer, welcome here! Your colours look warm and beautiful. I think her right buttock is a little high though. But I didn’t see the initial ref.

Sturmkim, I took a look at your ‘journey’ thread and your sketches are so funny and alive! I thought you were into realism because of what you posted here, but I liked your cartoony style even better!

I started on something new yesterday. I was about to kill the guy in the hedge. It was too difficult to pull of for a first try, I think. So here comes: the battle between forest-beings! I know the comp isn’t GREAT yet, and the colours are vague, but I will work on that.

Closeup on the face:

#494

PS. Rebecca, do you think this is good or interesting enough to start a WIP thread of my own? I don’t want to take too many liberties here…it’s all a great gift!

#495

Maladie (err, creepy name…), here is the ref:

#496

Okay, I’ve done it after all because I guess you have to start somewhere…I started a WIP thread! I will continue working on this piece in that one. Here’s the link:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=326940

I will be checking in here too! Everybody good luck and thanks for all the help so far!:arteest:

#497

little bit of vaule touch_up.
fall in love with horse. next time i’ll try horse itself.
good luck everybody and have fun…

#498

nice drawing there… hope i could be like you but i tink i suck…

#499

hey everybody, it’s great to see you guys have improved alot :thumbsup:. Bec, i’ve been working hard nowadays hehe doing practice from my book collection and dvd’s. I mainly focus on the figure, shape and proportion but i must say that i’m tempted to learn about some other things such as perspective and light. I did learn about them ocassionally when i’m taking a break, just for variation :scream:. wow never thought that light, shades and perspective could be that complicated, it takes me a while to get the hang of it and keep the courage to learn about them, but i’m sure that it will pay off one day hehe. some of the learning material that i’ve just got are hogarth’s Dynamic light and shade ( I was so happy when i found this book in the nearby used-book store, never seen this anywhere else ), and fortunately my friend is nice enough to lend me his vilppu dvd about direct and indirect lighting. :rolleyes:so yeah, in between of my hectic job hunting process:eek:, i try to do at least 2-3 hours drawing work-out everyday. thats my update, thought you might want to know haha. I will scan some of my sketch & works later on this day and put them together to be posted. cheers :love:

#500

Hello everybody, I’ve been working on my ‘centaur vs snake-thingie’ painting. I’ve tried to make the figures more dynamic and the composition more interesting. Let me know what you guys think!:slight_smile: