Becoming a Better Artist – Critical knowledge and techniques for today’s artists


#221

Enrollment for the October run of the workshop is now open!
http://beta.workshops.cgsociety.org/courseinfo.php?id=76

Act quick because all past workshops were sold out and people had to be put on the waiting list.

This upcoming 4th run is going to be awesome because I have continued to improve and amend to the course material based on all the new stuff that came out the past workshops–additional insights, tips and tricks, more detailed instructions on specific techniques and workflow, and so on.

Remember, this workshop is very demanding and challenging, and it will kick your ass because I will push you hard to go far beyond your comfort zone, but you will learn so much that you’ll feel like your brain’s going to explode due to all the new knowledge. You will not be able to absorb all it right away, but you will be learning new stuff every time you revisit the material. Also don’t forget, I’ll be providing critiques and answering questions long after the workshop has ended, so there’s no pressure.


#222

I really really really hope I can afford to sign up in Jan :smiley: been waiting to jump on board for ages!

Good luck to those in the Oct class. Hope you all have fun.


#223

hey Robert,
i’m kinda interested in entering this workshop, specially since i know you’re the kind of guy who really likes to help people(you’ve gave me good c&C in the past & i didnt spent a penny at that time), can’t imagine how good will be to spend 8weeks under your tutoring

I guess the principles in this workshop are also valuable in 3D(i am mostly interested in composition for illustrations\classical paintings style, and color theory(i’m reading Alla Prima!! finlly got it!). Tho i’m kinda interested in really pushing my 2d art skills up as well (sometimes i think i’d like to change, since doing an illustration from scratch seems faster in 2d than 3d)

Do you cover anatomy too in this workshop? It’s one of the main reasons I might not take it this time, since im going to buy a freedom of teach anatomy statue…and it’s really damn expensive.

So i’ll probably take the workshop :slight_smile: just not this time
still looking forward to hear more from you!

cheers


#224

The workshop does not cover basic anatomy/figure, but it does cover advanced concepts in expressive characters such as the inner workings of why facial expressions convey emotions the way they do, how subtle changes body language can completely change the emotion conveyed, how facial features convey personality types, aesthetics in figure and facial proportions, dissecting feminine and masculine beauty, stylization, idealization, the anatomy of visual vocabulary…etc. These advanced concepts can be learned even if you have never studied anatomy and figure, but they are also the kind of very advanced concepts that you cannot learn by simply studying anatomy and figure.


#225

thanks Rober.
looking forward to do this class with u one day!

cheers


#226

Definitely. :smiley: This is an interesting workshop.

There has always been a lot of things going on and since I’m currently doing art stuff only part time (software engineering the other part), my schedule seems to be quite easily booked months from almost any current time. Now, if there is workshop starting at January, I could probably do it by booking empty there and it seems that I could even have the money by then. So - looking forward for January. And also slightly horrified, since already know some fundamental things I should learn…:smiley:


#227

I so want to take this course but I’m very much a beginner, will I be totally lost?


#228

[color=YellowGreen]I’ve been getting emails asking me similar questions ever since the first run of the workshop, and I’m still getting them now. The questions are always related to “I’m a beginner, so is this workshop for me?” or “I’m a 3D artist (or insert any other visual artist), and I’m wondering if this workshop is relevant and helpful to someone like me?” or “I’m already a professional artist working in (insert industry) doing (insert job), and I’d like to know what I would gain from taking this workshop.”

I’ve already answered these types of question many times by email and also right in this thread, and I’ll answer them here again, hopefully even more thoroughly than before, and I"ll be using this post as a link for any more similar questions I get in the future. So here goes:

This workshop was painstaking designed so that advanced, intermediate, and beginner artists can all learn a lot from it, and students of different levels will all gain different things from it. The kind of “AHA!” moments the advanced artists will have will be different from the ones the intermediate and novices will have, and vice versa. The workshop is so epic and encompassing that everyone will get very valuable “AHA!” moments from each week. I have had students that were already art directors and they learned a lot of valuable stuff along with the intermediate and novice artists. One of the students who was already an art director even said that the first week alone was worth the price of the enrollment fee, while the beginner and intermediate students were just completely blown away by all the new knowledge and insights they were being exposed to week after week. Yet despite the differences in skill and knowledge among the students, they all were learning from the same material, and doing the same assignments. The assignments challenged the students of different levels in different ways, but all learned very much from them–often completely changing they way they think about and approach art forever.

One of the gravest misunderstandings I see in 3D is that many people who  do 3D don't realize just how incredibly important the foundations of  visual art are, and every single piece of subpar 3D artwork usually suffers  precisely because the person behind the artwork is lacking the essential  foundations of visual art. While one can google for such information or buy books or take classes,  the problem is that most don't know how to properly analyze and digest  such information and be able to utilize them effectively, nor do they  have the depth and range of knowledge and experience to know how to  creatively wield all that knowledge as potent and lethal weapons as artists. Worse yet, is that some learning materials and instructors are often subpar at teaching, aren't very thorough, aren't knowledgeable themselves, or suffer from a very narrow point of view. My unique way of teaching stems from the fact that I'm not just an artist, but also a passionate storyteller, writer/director, composer/musician, photographer, and my creative career spans a wide range of creative mediums and industries, so I have very unique insights that very few instructors have. I've had a number of students tell me they learned far more in eight weeks with me than they ever did in all the years they went to art school or worked professionally, or from all the learning resources they have accumulated and experienced.[/color][color=YellowGreen]

If you read all the testimonials from my past students on the workshop details page (linked in the very first post of this thread), you’ll see how my workshop has totally opened their eyes and minds, even when many of them have already gone to art school, or even worked professionally as artists for years. My students also ranged from concept artists, illustrators, animators, comic book artists, 3D modelers, CG generalists, photographers, graphic designers, and so on. They all loved the workshop and learned tons from it, and for many, it changed their lives not only as creative talents, but also as human beings with aspirations, dreams, and goals in life. For many, I think one of the greatest surprises is that although they expected to learn a lot about the essential foundations, drawing and painting techniques, and highly flexible and powerful professional workflow (all of which they got in spades and then some), they did not expect the lessons about creative vision, personal growth, professional aspirations, and life-long fulfillment to have hit them so hard, changing the way they look at everything related to their creative inspirations, career aspirations, and personal fulfillment, thus transforming them completely as artists. You can see this very clearly from the student testimonials, as well as the posts in this thread.

I believe this workshop is relevant to visual artists of any kind, regardless of your experience, industry, specialty, or medium, and it will likely completely  transform you as a creative person from the inside out, and have a  lasting influence on the rest of your life as both an artist and a human  being. That was my goal when I created this workshop, and from all the passionately glowing feedback I have gotten from my past students, I believe firmly that I have succeeded. 

I’m always evolving the workshop, adding to, updating, improving all the material and my approach as I observe the students and their reactions, the kind of questions they ask, the things they struggle with, and so on. Each run of the workshop is better than the previous, and it’ll keep on getting better and better, for as long as I’m still teaching it.
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#229

Rob

Sorry I had a cross post going on there… :slight_smile: the timing on my email and forum post was a little out of whack…

Thank You for such a thorough answer… I feel much more confident… I think one obstacle for a beginner like myself is to remember I’m a beginner and to not be afraid to make mistakes… I find sometimes I stop myself because my vision isn’t translating on the page… I’m not sure why I would expect a masterpiece without making my share of mistakes first… Seeing your realistic expectations reminds me to keep my own in check… Letting fear of imperfection paralyze me has to go!

Anyway I signed up and I’m very much looking forward to the course…


#230

I am right there with you! Thats exactly the feeling I have trying to draw and paint. I’ve seen videos and people do it in front of me, and I can see how they did it, but when I am trying to apply it to my vision onto my paper or digital canvas I freeze, and it comes out a mess and I stop. I know I should’t stop now, and I have to get those 10,000 bad drawings from birth out of me asap before I can begin to see drawings I am happy with! I have been enrolled in this workshop as well, and I really look forward to the 11th! Its almost exactly like, all my question I have had as of late, and struggles, and frustrations and doubt about being able to make a career of it, all of this is going to be answered and foundational knowledge that I have not got from school or studying books alone. Its really like the perfect course for me and where I am at in my development. Its a jump start, and a solid base to build upon and be self reliant and sufficient in studying further.
Knowing that Robert is so passionate about his work and this class/students, and always adding to it, I really think I will re-take the class after a few months go by. I think the new stuff he add’s and a refresher is key, as most know, when you watch a video or read a book for the second time you see a wealth of knowledge and AHA! moments you didn’t in the first time around!


#231

It’s such a shame that i don’t have money right now to enroll on your class :frowning: I do hope you write a book about these workshops in the near future. :beer:


#232

Hi Rob,

Thank you for your valuable time and patience. I have read the posts on which you have given advice to so many people. The way you answer the questions really gives me motivation. If this is the type of attention and care you are taking with out taking a buck, then what would you do if we pay $549?

Really… Rob I want to join the workshop, but right now I don’t have a job and can’t pay you. $549 is a heavy amount for me. But I will definitely join it in the future. I think you will conduct this type of workshop next year, will you? Please do.

I have little or no art knowledge. By the next time I will be more prepared for your class. As you said I will study all the andrew loomies books from cover to cover. I think the time will be enough to get some solid foundation from the book and looking forward to learn some advanced concepts and “AHAA” moments from your next workshop.

I have some questions…

I am basically a 3d artist and has been working for 2 years and wanted to develop my career in texturing so what type of art knowledge should I focus on which portion of the workshop will be more valuable for me.

Can you suggest me some cource of study or what areas to foucuss on before enrolling for the workshop. I mean what topics do you want us to have a knowledge before hand so that we can get most out of your workshop. (like anatomy or color theory…) and what are the steps to take to develop them.

Please do comment on the things which I didn’t mentioned here and which you think might be useful for me.

Thanks and regards,
sreenivas.


#233

I would suggest that you start with the easiest Loomis books and work your way up to his most advanced book. Or you can try tackling them all at once, but doing the first chapter of each book, and then move on to the next chapter of each book. If you find any of the books becoming too advanced for you, then put it aside and concentrate on the ones you can understand and keep going, then revisit the harder books later.

It’s important to get you your technical skills up to par, so try to push yourself to be able to copy an image as closely as possible, so that it looks almost identical to the original. You can try this with a photograph or someone else’s artwork, or copy drawings and painting from art instruction books (or even do still life from real life). The idea is to train your eye-hand coordination as well as your ability to observe, analyze and reproduce proportions, values, colors, edges, and details. This is basic stuff and the better you can pull it off the more prepared you will be technically when you join the workshop.


#234

Thank you for your reply. I think the above method will be useful for me. I will start drawing.
I will get ready for the next term of the workshop.


#235

I’m currently participating in that course. We are in the 8th week. What can I say? The material is great and Robert is a very good teacher. His critiques are thorough and straight to the point.
The course is very demanding and focus on all main things a skilled artist should handle. We were constantly pushed out of our comfort zones and did things we never did before.

There is a lot of material to read and watch. And when I mean a lot I mean a REAL lot. In fact I didn’t expected that amount. But still it is written in such a way that I could absorb a lot after one reading. Robert provides links to additional material and lists of books and dvds on subjects of almost each week, as well.

The course have broaden my view on art. I can recommend it to any artist that want to flex his/her creative muscles and thinks about really speeding up his/her progress. Everybody has achilles’ heel being it a composition, lighting, brushwork etc. The course would reveal it painfully clear and would give a solution how to adress it.

The course also checked my ability to deal with totally new subjects and deliver assingments on topics I have never touched before. It is very daunting especially to one cursed with perfectionism. We had discussions how to approach blocks like that, too. And Robert’s encouragements were very helpful for me, personally.

Anyway, I’m very glad that I took part in the course and I recommend it :slight_smile:


#236

I’m also in the same course as Lukasz. This workshop is simply amazing!

There are just too many things this workshop has to offer to mention them all, so I’ll just tell what it meant for me.

To me, the biggest impact was Robert’s hands on and personal approach. You can just tell that he really wants to help, watches your progress and corrects where necessary. And he adapts the amount of guidance depending on what each individual student needs. Students are also encouraged to read the other students’ threads and engage in conversations with them.

He also knows what he’s talking about and can back up any point he presents. If it’s a personal opinion, he just says so and doesn’t try to force it on you. And if you need more help with something that can be more easily shown than explained in words, he can just show you since he can do what he teaches. Unlike a lot of textbook teachers out there.

I recognised a lot of the lecture that was taught. But I just thought I knew it, while actually I just had some superficial knowledge of it. Now I know enough to realize I don’t really know any of it. I’m just aware of the tip of the iceberg. It’s both scary and exciting at the same time. I think my old way of thinking was one of the things which prevented me from progressing. I was quite stubborn about it at first, holding on to my “I know this or that so I’m doing it right”, but Robert patiently taught me differently with additional facts, occasionally referring others to our discussion later on. And these matters become vivid and personal and won’t be easily forgotten. You really can’t get experiences like that from a book or a tutorial video. But if those things are more to your liking, there’s a huge amount of text to read through and many videos providing additional info. Doing all of them creates synergy though, so to get the maximum out of it it’s recommend you do it all.

It’s so much that 8 weeks seem barely enough, but that’s to be expected. All of this knowledge takes years to master. You keep access to everything, so you can revisit whenever you want / need to.

I can honestly recommend this workshop if you want to become a better artist, no matter what skill level you have.


#237

hey guys thank you for your info…

But, You mad me both inspired and afraid. I am frightened that there is a lot of information to grasp in eight weaks. since I am at the starting level that seems a heavy work.

But the good news is that rob will be there to help and guide us. This also gives me much motivation to work hard and learn as much as I can with the andrew’s books before joining the classes. I am also planning to spend most of the time during the workshop only on drawing and nothing else. Atleast I will try.

Thanks all…


#238

Don’t be afraid :slight_smile:

You don’t have to finish all assignments in their respective weeks. You can deliver them even after the workshop ends. The good thing is that you are forced to try new things that otherwise you wouldn’t even approach - becouse you think you’re too much of a novice or becouse you are not familiar with them. But in fact in order to grow it is best to adress the areas you don’t know that much. And the best way to address them is under a teacher that would point out your errors straight away, so that you’d grow used to and grasp those things easier and faster then on your own.

Practising with Loomis’ books is good, but you can do this along the workshop as well. The workshops is so much more then only drawing. I understand your fears :slight_smile: But you’d have to swim the open sea one day, anyway. The quicker the better :wink: The workshops would give you some tools and let you asses your weaknesses.

Even if you wouldn’t have digested all the knowledge like me, you can come back to the material and reread it, rewatch the tutorials as you have an access to all this stuff after the workshops ends. You may post your works in the forum and Robert and your fellow classmates wold give you critiques. E.g. I won’t be able to finish all the assignments before the last weak ends but plan on sending them when I can.


#239

hey lukaru,

thank you for the caring words…I got all my doubts clarified. :bowdown:
Really…if someone dosent force you to do the new thing…the fear for the new remains with us for the rest of the life. You know after 2 years of button pushing…It’s really hard for me to sit down and do some anatomy drawings. I am having a really hard time. If the workshop was not coming in 3 months I would have definitely postponed practicing the Loomis’ books, so I was keeping the goal of completing the basic books of Loomis’.

Thank you all.


#240

I got back from vacation and I saw this class but looks like too late. If we post in this thread will we be notified when the course repeats?