Wouldn’t it be a little more scary if the humans did all that in a realistic manner?
(eating body parts and organs of fellow humans, killing someone brutally ect.) We all know that happens, so a simple “I’ts just a movie” would be a little weaker, I think.
If we mix the bad guy from “The Silence of the Lambs”, “Psycho” and “Texsas Chainsaw Massacre” we get a really sick guy that really existed, Ed Gein (don’t google it). Why do you think they took only parts of his behaviour into theese movies?
When they are monsters, they are allowed to be as sick as you could possibly immagine, but it seems human villans gets “sweetened out” compared to theyre real selfs.
If there were only human villans, woulnt people be more paranoid, knowing that what they’d see would acctually be possible?
If you can’t handle a horror movie, how can you hande the true horrors of our world?
There are also action movies and dramas whit some good visual effects. Buying or watching a movie at the cinema is supporting it even if you don’t like it.
Well…err I think believing what you see in movies is just stupid…it’s all fiction anyways…no matter how realistic it is. Not even real footage is real cuz it is a capture of a time that doesn’t exist anymore…so I guess it would depend on the kids and the parents IQ and level of responsibility… what responsible parent would let his kid watch horror flicks anyway? And convincing them is easy…sit down and talk, explain…etc. It’s even easier nowadays with all the extra footage, making of, and all that stuff they put for bonus features in dvds…etc.
job? success? Ok… using words like this would lead me to believe that it isn’t possible for you to consider the fact that some people are passionate about creating horrific and grotesque good art… Making it plausible is part of the art itself! Artists create illusions, visions, imagery…
Unless you are referring to good as in art as a means of goodness (not good as in great, well done, masterful, etc…art)…If this is the case, then it would imply you kind of believe there is essential evil in this world…or something along this way…which I honestly can’t abide with…so what you are referring is to evil art?
cuz bad art is something else to me…bad art lacks merit in the composition, conceptual and technical spheres, that’s all…and a lot of the monstrous and grotesque, or like you call it, ‘disgusting’ art is actually really good…
I don’t think it wise to delve into the ‘morals’ of art… I believe the code of ethics to each artist should be freedom to create whatever s/he wants…
Like I said before, what my be disgusting to you can be someone else’s delight.
There is no evil in art, I think evil is only found in the resonance of the viewer…the artist just brings out the reactions.
I think the real world actually has bigger horrors than sci-fi, horror and fantasy FXs…
Another thing, we can’t create from nothing. Every single monster has a parent. Be it the hypocritical snake-tongued gossip neighbor, or the thug honking it’s horn like a madman in traffic or more severe murderers, etnophobes (and all the other phobes for all it matters), and other such psychopaths… In the end… vampires, werewolves and demons can’t stand up to these…because the difference it that they, the bad monsters, are not real.
edit: And if you need answers to your questions of why would artist enjoy creating these horrors… I think you may need to research Romanticism, Supernatural Horror in Literature, Gothic Literature…Gothic Romance Literatureor just browse through legends and folklore…the apocalypse in the bible is quite enticing…and asian legends on demon gods, and the such are very entertaining…etc…and after that link the enjoyment of this type of readings to Illustration and after Illustration, cinematography…
I’d also like to say Frankenstein Or The Modern Prometeus is one of the best novels ever written, not one detail is taken for granted…and the questioning of blood, family, humanity, good and evil are very interestingly presented… (spending two months studying it for literature class is not as much fun, but hey, I aced that course by the end of the semester so it was worth it!)
I like your head there Medusa, but realy I’m not scared and I’m watching these movies… I can handle it, but I’m talking about the art and the evil inspiration, I’m trying to understand how “artists” dive and dive deeply into evil imagination, and why?
BTW, I’m not buying them, neither going to cinema, its just my home tv channels if they are there.
anyway I’ve got a lot of details from you guys maybe I had to read those books that My friend “oz haver” adviced me.
thanks alot man for ur advice, you mostly answered most of my wonderings here in this post,I think I missed reading such books, cuz simply I didn’t know they are there.
thanks again for the new name “disgusting art” , I think it more describes what I mean.
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[li]The Castle of Otranto (1764) by Horace Walpole[/li][li]Vathek, an Arabian Tale (1786) by William Thomas Beckford[/li][li]The Mysteries of Udolpho (1794) by Ann Radcliffe[/li][li]Caleb Williams (1794) by William Godwin[/li][li]The Monk (1796) by Matthew Gregory Lewis[/li][li]The Italian (1797) by Ann Radcliffe[/li][li]Frankenstein (1818) by Mary Shelley[/li][li]The Vampyre; a Tale (1819) by John William Polidori[/li][li]Melmoth the Wanderer (1820) by Charles Robert Maturin[/li][li]Confessions of an English Opium-Eater (1821) by Thomas de Quincey[/li][li]The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner (1824) by James Hogg[/li][li]Young Goodman Brown (1835) by Nathaniel Hawthorne[/li][li]The Fall of the House of Usher (1839) by Edgar Allan Poe[/li][li]The Tell-Tale Heart (1843) by Edgar Allan Poe[/li][li]The Mummy’s Foot (1863) by Théophile Gautier[/li][li]The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1886) by Robert Louis Stevenson[/li][li]The Picture of Dorian Gray (1891) by Oscar Wilde[/li][li]The Horla (1887) by Guy de Maupassant[/li][li]The Yellow Wallpaper (1892) by Charlotte Perkins Gilman[/li][li]Dracula (1897) by Bram Stoker[/li][li]The Turn of the Screw (1898) by Henry James[/li][li]The Monkey’s Paw (1902) by W.W. Jacobs[/li][li]The Phantom of the Opera (1910) by Gaston Leroux [/li][li]The Lair of the White Worm (1911) by Bram Stoker[/li][li]The Vampire Chronicles books (1976-2003) & Lives of the Mayfair Witches books (1990-2003) by Anne Rice [/li][li]The Secret Books of Paradys I, II, III & IV (1988-1994) by Tanith Lee [/li][/ul] & other tons and tons of fictions, etc.
I especially adore Laurell K. Hamilton’s work in the Anita Blake and Mery Gentry series…though not many consider them high literature… lol
Of course, you need to research the period, historically and literary…Romanticism and the Gothic movement inside it. Then you link it to Illustration, theatre and later on, cinematography and I think you’ll be able to make the connections and answer your questions. Though I really think that people have always been just fascinated by all this. Count me in.
Stories with monsters as antagonists are enjoyed by most people, because they show that monsters can be defeated. Before the days of science and reason, the world away from the campfire was an unknown, dark and scary place (ok, arguably it still is…). Inventing monsters let people personify their fears into a defeatable form - most (if not all) the classical monsters have mortal weaknesses that allowed them to be defeated by human cunning.
‘Horrible’ or ‘ugly’ art does not always serve the function of being a fantasy that the creator would like to participate in. (as others have mentioned)
Art can be a catharsis. This means that by drawing or sculpting something which represents some unpleasant feelings you are ‘letting out’ the emotions which cause you problems. Like shining a flashlight into a dark corner this can make your problems much easier to deal with.
This is the basis of a psycological technique known as Art therapy which uses art in this way to deal with people who have suffered severe emotional trauma. www.arttherapy.org/about.html
So drawing your problems (even in the metaphorical form of a monster) may make you a better, more emotionally stable, person rather than ‘increasing evil’.
It will be a real horror, if you see a lion a few feet from you in the open and you have nothing to protect yourself. The, experience will be anything but enjoyment. However a lot of people pay to go to the zoo and ENJOY watching it from a few feet safely in a cage. So to answer you I would say, people enjoy it because it is safe and dont feel any pain or harm.
BTW, the point was in focus recently in this thread, we are talking about “disgusting art”, not scary, because I don’t think scaring needs alot of dirty thoughts.
Well this is a very contentious issue. Academic and scientific viewpoints on this issue are often vauge and confusing.
However I personally believe that there is a strong social element to any art. Therefore the type of art you enjoy has much to say about how you socialise or what social scene you identify with. Art here serves to identify yourself with your peers by showing publicly your emotional tastes.
For example - if you’re strongly into listening to heavy metal music you would probably enjoy art with ‘heavy metal’ themes or overtones and are able to identify and meet people you know you’ll be able to easily socialise with just by identifying their taste in visual art.
So I believe that by enjoying ‘evil’ art you’re not ‘increasing your evil’ but merely identifying in art emotions and ideology that you already posess.
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, but anyway, thanks for the advice 
