Hi guys,
Before this turns into a flame war, let's remember a few things.
Originally posted by oDDity: It’s not about that sort of sharpness, its about defining muscle shapes accurately with clean, concise, readable lines. It’s a technique failure on your part, so I don’t see the point in tryng to mask it by saying ‘I meant to do that’.
The first step to improving is admitting you’re wrong.
oDDity, here's another way of stating the same thing without closing the ears of the person you're critiquing:
"I understand what you are saying, but I think that you could more clearly define muscle shapes and more accurately so with clean, concise, readable lines. This is my opinion, and everyone approaches modelling differently."
Originally posted by oDDity: Yes, I am interested, please point out my errors, that’s why I post my work here, and I assume is the actual point of the forum, to learn and improve, not to boost egos by getting hollow praise, though to see the way some people go crazy when recieving criticism, you’d be forgiven for thinking otherwise.
I actually don't disagree with the substance of this statement. The purpose of the forum is to learn and to improve. Being able to accept and incorporate constructive critique is an essential and important part of growing as an artist.
That being said, I sense that you, ODDity, are being intentionally dense in not listening to what I requested of you in terms of modifying your tone. As I said by pm, I think that as much as you are asking others to listen to critique of your work, you need to listen to critique of your tone on public forums. You have stated yourself that you have heard this critique before. If you expect others to accept your critique of their work, then you need to be equally receptive and positively responsive in terms of the way you state things on public forums. It is not about the substance of your comments, which I think is quite useful - as I have stated now three times, it is about the tone.
I value everyone's contributions here.
[b] SpiritDreamer / Glenn,[/b] there is no need for you to jump in here. Nor is there need to further discuss this publicly. Nor is there need for[b] Thomasphoenix / Siju[/b] to jump in here to further discuss this issue.
Let's talk about the work in a reasonable way. I think that ODDity's contributions in terms of the substance of his critique are refreshingly useful, but intentional further antagonism of artists on this forum will not be greeted with enthusiasm. Giving constructive criticism is one thing; doing so in order to pick a fight is quite another.
If an artist whose work you critique cannot accept constructive criticism, then you must accept that as a failure on their part, or possibly as a failure on your part to communicate effectively, or both - and move on.
That is hopefully the end of the need for this discussion, on this, or on any other thread. Let’s please get back to work.
-Rebecca