Anatomy Thread of raptor|3D

#21

[left]raptor|3D,

Very nice work indeed! :thumbsup: I rather like this rough shading, though understand that you prefer more smooth shading. I think you do both rather well. :slight_smile:

I thought I’d just point out that you’ve done a really nice job with the arm area ~ your linework is really good, and I think if you pushed the contrast between thick / thin lines for the contouring of the arms, your future pieces will be even nicer! I did just a quick demo not so much to show you something you appear to know intuitively already, but just to sort of reinforce that you can really get a lot out of the simple varying of thick vs. thin lines.

Great work, nice to see new work so quickly! :slight_smile:
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[left]Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak
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#22

Pusha V: thx

Rebecca: Thank you very much for your advice and your microtutorilal :)! It looks very, very nice this way. I would say as for the linework in general I have to get better especially at it, I remember your advice about loose lines.:slight_smile:
I think I´ll try to practice some “linework only” from time to time.

#23

raptor|3D,

You’re quite welcome! I think as long as you have the motivation and drive, you will be able to do some really beautiful work ~ already, your work is really, really nice, and I have a feeling that with time, practice, and drive, you will be producing, along with Slux, some really fantastic pieces! :thumbsup: Looking forward to watching your progress. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#24

Hi Raptor
That doesn’t look bad :slight_smile: btw If you want to achive smooth shading fast than you can shade it roughly and than blend it … with fingers, paper smearingi sticks or I prefer brushes :slight_smile: It works great and its fast … well you can find more informations in my little tutorial but I guess you have already seen it … thats just a little tip … you can try it even with this piece.

Hmm I would like to draw something too but right now I’am too busy damned web design :slight_smile: but anyway it has to be done.

  • Slux
#25

Hi Slux,
good luck with your webdesign.

Yeah, I want to use blending/bluring in the case of charcoal. I don´t blend/blur/smear (excuse my english here - I don´t know which word is more exact :), maybe Rebecca will tell me) when I draw with normal pencil. I was told at the art course that bluring the pencil is not so good, that it´s not “artistic”. I don´t know, however I must say that I like when normal pencil is not blured but shading is smooth at the same time. But in the case of the charcoal (or charcoal pencil) it´s another situation and bluring is common technique and I like it rather than rough shading. I also like bluring/smearing at some occasions very much - like when Carlos Hunate washed out prismacolor pencil (alcohol and eraser technique) on his creature concept design on his Gnomon DVD (it was really cool).
btw: I would love to try airbrush because you can have really great results when you master this medium, but I don´t know, it´s too expensive and unhelathy/dangerous.
So, I´ll take the chance and ask Rebecca what is her opinion about that whole thing (bluring/blending pencil vs. normal shading etc.). :smiley:

#26

raptor|3D,

Hey there, I don’t really think there is anything ‘wrong’ with any particular way of drawing / painting. :slight_smile: Particularly when you are starting out / actively developing your skills, I think it’s important to experiment with different types of media and to test out different ways of manipulating them. I had a course once in college which was really helpful to me, where we were completely unrestricted in terms of the drawing materials we could use / and how we could mix them ~ it was a very useful class, in that it allowed you to see beyond the medium and just draw in any which way you wanted. I know that that’s not really your question, but I do think it’s fine to blend / smudge / smear / blur (whatever you wish to call it) :wink: in any which way you want / or don’t want to do. There’s never really anything ‘wrong’ with how you use tools ~ you just have to try things out to see what works best in the long run for you. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#27

I´ve hoped for nothing less. :applause:

#28

ROFL…what’s this? :scream:

#29

really great result, isn´t it? :thumbsup:

I was just kidding :scream:, you are absolutely right.

#30

It’s…fantastic! :scream: :thumbsup: 5 starts + frontpage! :scream:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#31

Time for all of us to run off and smudge with our pencils. :twisted:

#32

Well I wouldn’t really care if someone doesn’t think its artistic … who decides that anyway and there is so many opposite opinions what IS and whats NOT artistic and what a REAL artist should and shouldn’t do.
Like that a real artist should be poor hmmm but it was popular some time ago for some reason its not popular nowadays :scream: and also my favourite that if computer is anyhow involved its of course not art anymore …
Well imho its all nonsense just do what you like and what works for you best… I personally don’t call myself artist anyway :slight_smile:

  • Slux
#33

Slux,

I agree with you, I think all of this talk about what “is” and “is not” art is just a bunch of yadda yadda yadda gibberish which I choose not to pay attention to. Art talk makes me a bit nauseous, and I’ve long since stopped reading “Art” journals / magazines and the like…the writing makes me quite ill. My feeling on the topic is, who the heck cares what someone else thinks is or isn’t art? Most likely that person is not creating art themselves, and just likes to talk about it. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#34

Let’s not forget that some of the most famous artists today were actually derided and attacked at some point in history because their work was not considered good art or “fashionable”. Guys like Rembrandt. Kind of insane when you think about it.

#35

I agree.

Well imho its all nonsense just do what you like and what works for you best…

Dont worry, that´s what I do :). I just noted what I was told at the art course. I don´t say that´s true and therefore I don´t use smudging anymore. But I just don´t like smudging normal pencil, I think it doesn´t look good - that´s my honest opinion.
I also discover new ways of working and I am open to new techniques, so my techniques can change.

Well, these discussions about “art” always goes without end. I think it´s a matter of opinion, it´s a matter of how the person view art.

#36

I quite like the smudging work which Slux has done in his pieces. If he didn’t mention that he had smudged them, I would not have noticed. :slight_smile: I think it depends entirely on the skill of the artist as to what does or does not look good. Materials don’t come with instructions because there is no right way to use them. :slight_smile:

And, I also agree that art talk has no end. :wink:

Cheers!

~Rebeccak

#37

OK. I would say shading the piece without smudging is more difficult and also challenging and the result pays off - at least for me. I think when you want to master drawing like old masters, you should learn “regular” shading technique first and then do whatever. I would say that this is especially better for beginner to shade “regular way” and when you can do it well, you can smudge. But it´s everybody´s choice. This is just my point of view.

OK, here´s my linework , not so good, I have to practice lines more :D.

#38

here´s next, more to come

#39

OK, here´s my linework , not so good, I have to practice lines more

They are a lot better than mine right now. :slight_smile: Everything is relative. :smiley:

I think when you want to master drawing like old masters, you should learn “regular” shading technique first and then do whatever.

I don’t know about that. If your proportions are shaky like mine, it makes sense to use more rapid shading techniques…just to keep from becoming depressed and killing yourself. :smiley:

Although, you do need to get around to it eventually. I started out with pencil smudge shading but the more my proportions improve the more I want play around with hatching.

#40

Cbee: why not? Like I said: that´s just my point of view.

Finally finished zhuzhu drawing, although proportions of the head could be better I don´t want to tweak this drawing forever :smiley: and it´s too late to redo the head completely.

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