Aegis:2375 - A Collaborative Science Fiction Project

#201

looking forward to seeing that in 3D Paulo!!!

#202

Heheheh… me too!:slight_smile:

I’ll wait till Mark is done with the views, no rush. Mark is doing a great job for this project. :slight_smile:

So im looking foward to see blitzze wip on the E5 Hydrocharge 2200. Cant wait to see is work. :bounce:

Keep it real
Paulo

#203

Wow, ok i will get on to all your request in order.

I cant wait to see the design evolve into 3D…coolies

:applause:

#204

This looks like the army Mark, do this do that…hahahahah

Are you already up, shouldnt you be a sleep man, go off to bed now. :wip:

#205

me too!!! the thought of it makes me feel all…chocolatey…yeh…i think…haha!

#206

ok then
I read nearly the whole thread now…
Very nice Concepts btw and getting better page by page…(i need to get one of those tablets)
I like the way the aegis turned out at last
and the Big Rig looks awesome… totally unrealistic imo, but this is sci-fi…so who cares

Concepts i like most:

Now some things that are a bit odd IMO:

First the HEP Cannon looks kinda strange… it is way to short!
If we have some sort of particles which should be accelerated by some kind of field (static or dynamic) they need a lot of room to gain enough speed to do damage (and i think we are talking about nearly lightspeed otherwise the small particles wont do any damage.
And if you manage to double the velocity you will get fourtimes the damage. Kinetic Energy=m*(v^2) )
For best acceleration the energyfield should be dynamic (pulsed or something like that), which involves a lot of electronics and digital components and stuff like that, and makes this kind of weapon way more complex.
No Ammo needed…hmmm might work when i take some sort of stardust… but if there are extraheavy particles available on the ship (would be our ammo) i´d prefer those… you know m*(v^2)
Next issue with this weapon is the range… we are in space… nothing (except a direct impact or gravity sources) will stop these particles when they gained so much speed… so i think the range will be more than 1500ft (in space battle 1500ft are nothing)
If it was that simple as you figured it out, everyone could have one of those guns in the garage:twisted:

Science lesson over…:bounce:

Another thing i saw and i didnt like was the foldable wing with the engines on the tip… nobody would build it this way… it would make the fold mechanics just heavier and bulkier… take the engines place them on the hull and make the wing foldable… and perhaps we´ll find another way to do that folding more elegant(is this an english word??)… it looked quite old fashioned…

I hope i didnt get anything wrong and my crits weren´t to devastating…if so, sorry…

Things i want to do (or try):

  • that space elevator thing you talked about, dene, sounded quite good… i gave it allready a
    try…

…a bit different from your discription

  • as i said befor :cars … so if there are any “blueprints” available (i wont be nearly as good
    as blitzze) my favorites are those: 1 2 :slight_smile:
  • if you guys need some concepts on technical details (like the folding wing and things like
    that) i´ll try to help
  • buildings…never really did this before but worth a try
  • are there any concepts for the powerarmour?
  • i have a once started a concept for a 4 legged mech… and got stuck in the conceptphase,
    perhaps i´ll dig it up from the depths of my cg folder…
#207

thanks dude!!..been working hard on this for a while!! :thumbsup:
glad you liked the aegis, mark has done an outstanding job!!
the big-rig: there are quarry vehicles today that are this size and bigger. this was designed to alleviate the stress on earths inadiquate rail system as i think that in the year 2375, earth will be massivly over populated and the transport saystem will be quite a mess (if the way things are going nowdays is anything to go by)

[Edited] got me there dood! :thumbsup: what i wanted from the particle cannon was a weapon that would be effective a relatively short ranges as this would promote intense close-quarters space battles (these look really cool) and be able to cover most angles. for long range stuff, i was going to have human vessels use torpedos. im not trying to be too technically acurate with all this btw:D as you said “but this is sci-fi…so who cares”. just to note: the cannon is gonna emmit a blue/indigo beam…i think it’d look cool!! haha!

ahh…correct, but it wouldnt look as cool! i based the concept for the dropship on This Aircraft Here

[Edited] crit is allways welcome. i hope its not the case when you say “…my crits weren´t to devastating” that you mean to imply that you were actually attempting to ‘Devastate’ me? (probably just a mis-interpritation:))

yeh…this is cool:thumbsup: but ill have to upload a sketch for you so i can better explain what this should look like.

mark is working on such things i believe. i look forward to seeing these!

yes please! how would you like to try the concept art for an alien race? (ill upload pics soon)

ill upload some images really soon.

yep…ill upload these soon as well.

i look forward to seeing that!..i have a few ideas about mechs, though they wont be any taller than 30feet.

#208

ok, heres that alien race i was talking about. ‘The Fallen From Grace’

  [img]http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v292/state-of-terror/Aegis2375/Aegis2375_Fallen_Details.jpg[/img]
  
  i've obviously based them on horses (seemed like a good idea at the time)
  and here's everything ive written about them so far...
    [b]

A Brief History[/b]
Originally a tall, vaguely humanoid species, the Fallen (originally called the Karura) were faced with an imminent ecological threat from which they could not escape, the only chance they had for survival was to transfer as many Karura minds into hurriedly constructed Mind-State facilities in the hope of saving as many individuals as possible. Later, after the danger had passed and all biological life had been wiped from the planet by the catastrophe, the Karura were able to start transferring the stored Mind-States into individual Mechanical bodies which, much to the frustration of many a Karura, barley resembled their original form and so had to re-learn the art of physical movement. As much as many of the Karura complained about their awkward new forms they could not ignore the benefits their new bodies bestowed upon them; increased physical capabilities, eidetic memory and practical immortality as well as the ability to have their ‘bodies’ repaired with much less trouble than their biological forms had presented them with.

[b]  Home World:[/b]   [i]Cansu[/i] (Earth-Like world. Mass approx’ 2.5 Earths, 1.5 ESG (Earth Standard Gravity), High O2 Atmosphere, High air pressure). Since The ‘Teleporter Accident’ the planet has become very ‘turbulent’ due to the lack of plant life to slow the winds, stop landslides and strengthen natural dams. Cansu is now a world covered in deserts with constant flooding driven on by the 300 MPH winds, which never cease.
 
[b]    Moon(s):[/b]       [i]Soural, Manasa, Cansuon[/i]
 
[b]    Sun(s):[/b]         [i]Mauras[/i] (Sol-Type Star)
 
    [b]A Less Brief History[/b]

Throughout their history ‘The Fallen’ have been manipulated by the NasUR-VoL, politically, socially, psychologically and technologically to serve their own purposes. A few examples of this include; The Jeetoo Wars, which ended in the extinction of the Jeetoo (the Jeetoo resisted NasUR-VoL attempts at manipulation, this annoyed the NasUR-VoL), and The Huyakhaan Oppressions (over the course of 1000 years the Karura repeatedly invaded, occupied, slaughtered and enslaved the Huyakhaan in a NasUR-VoL bid for control over the species). In recent times the Karura have learnt of the technology given to the ‘Ceph by the NasUR-ET, technology which was apparently denied the Karura due not only to their attitude as a species but also their involvement with the NasUR-VoL (the Karura have never realised they are being manipulated, being an arrogant people). This seemingly ‘unfair’ selection infuriated the Karura so deeply that they have been at war with the ‘Ceph for over 110 years (a war that forced the ‘Ceph to Develop a Military, much to their displeasure). After a series of unsuccessful military actions against the ‘Ceph, the Karura decided to attempt a ‘readjustment’ of their outlook. The NasUR-VoL learnt of this and became irritated at the fact that their best minions were no longer obeying them or at war with the allies of the NasUR-ET (of these allegiances the Karura did not know). The NasUR-VoL, in an act of revenge, gave the Karura long-range teleportation technology as a ‘gift’. The NasUR-VoL knew fore well of the dangers of this technology to biological matter but did not tell the Karura. After 5 years of construction over five worlds, the Karura finally finished the Teleportation Array and, in an act of social celebration, held an empire-wide celebration to mark the completion of the Array. With 99% of the Karura on one of the five ‘Teleporter Colonies’ for the witnessing of the first use, the deadly first firing killed everyone within 10 miles of the primary control centre on every planet involved and left everyone else with just 24 hours to live. With extinction upon them, the Karura decided to utilise a secret experimental facility on the Karura home world, Cansu, to ‘Download’ as many of the 20 Billion minds on the planet as possible before the 24 period expired along with the 120 Billion Karura on the other worlds. 1 day later the Karura were reduced to just 3 Billion, all stored on Cansu in the Digital Facility. Shortly afterwards (about 2 years) a team of Karura scientists returning from a long-range mission found Cansu in its devastated state. Realising what had happened, the scientists made artificial bodies for the minds to inhabit. scientists, being as scientists are, decided to re-invent the physical form of the Karura based on a work of art which was burnt by the Karura government decades ago (all art was destroyed in an effort to focus’ the minds of the people towards only things that were productive). After the first few hundred bodies were made and minds placed into them (mostly the top levels of the Karura government and a number of scientists and so forth), the scientist realised that they had depleted the stores of the rare materials needed to construct the artificial forms. The politicians were so angry about this that they killed the scientists and ordered the ‘transferred’ scientists and engineers to find a solution lest their families be ’deleted’ from storage, naturally the scientists agreed and suggested that they use the teleportation array (which they had discovered was only fatal to biological forms) to move mined materials back to Cansu to build more bodies. The problem with the materials needed is that they are so rare that a given planet only yields enough raw material to manufacture approximately 200 bodies for stored Karura, the solution to this was that they extend the teleportation array by placing amplifying array on planets that are to be mined. Accepting this proposal, the Karura government extracted all the top military personnel from storage to carry out this ‘project’ and were given permission to use any and all means necessary to acquire enough resources to free ALL the stored Karura. These orders enabled ‘The Fallen From Grace’ / ‘The Fallen’ (as they had renamed themselves, probably out of some highly egotistical reasoning) to effectively rape and pillage any world they thought might have even a few tons of the necessary material. After a few years of this, ‘The Fallen’ started to attack and mine ‘Ceph worlds and planets within their accepted territory. The actions of ‘The Fallen’ thus far had angered the ‘Ceph and it was ‘the last straw’ when ‘The Fallen’ started incurring into their territory and obliterating ecosystems. The ‘Ceph denounced the treaty with the Karura and went to war with them to put an absolute stop to the path the Karura / ‘Fallen’ had chosen. Now that ‘the Fallen’ had an all-out war to deal with, they decide to go to back to the Huyakhaan home world and offer them a way of revenge against the recently departed humans and the Karura (even though THEY are the Karura, the Huyakhaan do not know this due to the different ships and appearance of ‘The Fallen’). The Huyakhaan agree to this and so the ‘Fallen’ ask that in return for this help the Huyakhaan serve as the ‘Fallen’ military in the struggle against ‘the evil ‘Ceph’. In return, the ‘Fallen’ gave the Huyakhaan advanced technology in the form of weapons and vessels to perform the military functions to which they agreed.

  (this might contain inconsitencies...i havnt updated it in a while)
  
 
  and, to aid in the art department..a scale comparrison of most of the races....

(From left: NasUR-ET: Intercessor Construct / Huyakhaan / Human (6.2ft tall) / 'Ceph: Bio-Drone / Xenocephaloid / 'Fallen / Narvorla)

  [img]http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v292/state-of-terror/Aegis2375/Aegis2375_Species__Scale_Comparison.jpg[/img] ---------------------------------------------

‘Aegis 2375’ and all related concepts, artwork and original terminology, are (Unless otherwise stated) registered ® and / or copyright © 2003/2004 Dene Walker. dene_walker@yahoo.co.uk

#209

quick note: the fallen can stand upright and use the front legs as arms

also note:
i have updated my 2 previous posts. please re-read them for the updates.

#210

Here’s a WIP so far (few minutes of work).

#211

blitzze:

Great to see a start, here is the rear 3/4 and interia you asked for hope its sufficient.

Mark

#212

Yep that’s perfect, too bad I’ll be going away for the next few days.:smiley:

#213

Blitzze,
Nice start . :thumbsup: When will you be back?

Dene,
great history of “The Fallen”, very detailed (…did like the political issues). :thumbsup:

just one thing about the sketch. Its a side view, right? You should drop some shadows to give volume to the drawing, but if its a side view than its ok (i think i understand it now). Ive just wake up, so im still sleeping… heheheh

Mark,

my man awsome work on the perpective and interior view, as always.

Cheers
Paulo

#214

Cheers Paulo!:thumbsup:… im trying to make this as twisted as possible…takes alot of work!! haha!

yep, its a side view. ive not added shadows because i suck at doing them! haha! i would have ruined the image.

BTW: ‘The Fallen’ are one of the two main ‘bad-guys’ of the series. (but…there are no clear-cut ‘good’ or ‘bad’ races here…its all shades of grey. every race has its problems and agendas…and alliences, debts and irrationalitys)

#215

Hi there

the big-rig: there are quarry vehicles today that are this size and bigger. this was designed to alleviate the stress on earths inadiquate rail system as i think that in the year 2375, earth will be massivly over populated and the transport saystem will be quite a mess (if the way things are going nowdays is anything to go by)

The Big Rig: Nothing wrong with the truck itself (as i said looks awesome) the thing i wanted to crit is: will there really be trucks driven by truckers in the future?
Hmm I dont think so… I know about some projects where they try to get the cargo on some automated transportation unit wich finds the cargos destination on its own. Such units are capable of docking other units and forming bigger units to save energy…
One of these projects is based on the existing railsystem, the second plans to use some kind of tubesystem (only for densly populated areas).
Using trucks would be to expensive (the reactors the hardware the logistics and the driver itself).
So I suggest you think of something else…
what about containers equipped with one of your maglev systems and a computer, giving them own routes… you´ll have big streams of autarc containers over the big cities of the future or between planets.
The only situation where i could imagine those huge rigs is on planets where the population isnt to dense and where it might be to dangerous having the expensive cargo left on its own (pirates or something like that)
But it is your future…

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[Edited][/b] got me there dood! :thumbsup: what i wanted from the particle cannon was a weapon that would be effective a relatively short ranges

for short ranges take a big huge and wide laser or energy beam (dont make it pulsed but hold it a few seconds that´ll look great)

ahh…correct, but it wouldnt look as cool! i based the concept for the dropship on This Aircraft Here
I know this one… but the stuation here is a bit different…
but the concepts you guys made are quite fantastic so i could settle with it :slight_smile:

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[b][Edited] crit is allways welcome. i hope its not the case when you say “…my crits weren´t to devastating” that you mean to imply that you were actually attempting to ‘Devastate’ me? (probably just a mis-interpritation:))

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didnt even think about it :rolleyes: (perhaps i just chose the wrong word:banghead:)

yeh…this is cool:thumbsup: but ill have to upload a sketch for you so i can better explain what this should look like.

cant wait to see it

yes please! how would you like to try the concept art for an alien race? (ill upload pics soon)

as long as it isnt something organic, and you give me some guidlines, or anyone wants to team up with me on that, cos that will be alot of work, and i will have to learn really much the next weeks (for my real life)

i look forward to seeing that!..i have a few ideas about mechs, though they wont be any taller than 30feet.

when i say concept i mean concept, just some blocks and things like that, tests to get the “anatomy” right…
and it was intended to be really huge…

A few basic questions on the cars…
-this maglev system? how high does it take you up? how fast are they?
-what kind of engine powers those cars?
-did mankind manage to get rid of traffic jams in the future?
-who can afford cars?

if you could outline a short scenario for the cars (where why when they are used)… would be great

It seems that a lot of energy is concentrated on the cars… but are they really so important? more important than the ships and stuff like that…
ok they will fill a city with life…
or a highspeed chase would be great (if that fits into the storys)…
but imo we wont see those beauties too often in the series… what a shame…

#216

Big Rig: nah…its not practical, but it looks cool. the driver is only there in the unlikely event of a systems faliure. such vehicles will only be used on earth as the transit system there is a bit of a mess. there are still train lines, subway systems, cargo aircraft etc.
as far as automation goes: well, all trafic, on motorways is automated, and no, traffic jams are still a problem in 2375…haha!
Lasers: i hate lasers. really.as far as weapons go i think they suck, to be quite honest.
i was gonna make the human beam weapons either be a beam that would be on for about 2 seconds and track the target, or, be a ‘pulsed beam’ where it would be a beam, but fire about 10 times a second in a similar way to a mcuhine gun, i suppose. (but it would then need 30 seconds to cool down).
Pirates: only a problem in interstellar space, but this will happen (see my post about the Mercinaries)
Alien Concept Art: check out ‘The Fallen’ info/pics i posted below.
MagLev System: it raises the vehicle a few inches from the ground and the speed is determined by the output of the vehicle (anything from 120mph to 400mph+)
Maglev Engine: anything smaller than a truck uses ultra-high capacity batteries, the bigger vehicles (like the rig) have an on-board fusion reactor.
Traffic Jams: happen constantly on earth! even with the AI traffic managment. the colonies use efficient mass-transit as they had the opportunity to build thier citys with the best planning possible.
Who Can Afford Cars: allmost everyone can afford cars
Why cars?: because as you said, they give a city life and i wanted to make the future earth as car obsessed as it seems to be today. and no, the car concepts ar not as important, but thats currently whats being worked on.
Car Chases: yes…ive planned a coulpe of these!! lets just say the idea for a car chase i have will be …intense (ill post the outline when i eventually type it up)
Cars: nah…they wont be seen all that often, but its nice to have some solid concepts for them anyway. i dont want anything to look poorly designed.
The Drop-Ship: yes, the situation is different.

 [b]NOTE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED: we're moving onto ships again very soon!!!!!
 
 [/b]ok, im just gonna say this Jeff Dux: i know its probably just a bad choice of words, but you are posting messages that appear (to me) to be quite Sarcastic and Condescending. [b]i really dont think this is your intention[/b], but it's how its coming accross. i dont want to cause offence, but i need to get this straightened out with you [i]before[/i] i start taking it personally. sorry. but i needed to say this.
#217

I dont either want to cause offence…
I think you are doing a great job here (no doubt)… and thats why i wanted to be part of all this…
If you dont want me to comment some of your concepts, then ill stop it… i just thought it might help you a little bit…(if you dont want it on the thread i can pm those things… there wont come much more cos the rest is really good, or if you dont want it i´ll stop it)

Its also always a little struggle to write all this in english (as you may have noticed its not my native language and i didnt write so much stuff in english since…school…and thats some years now) so there might be some mistakes in my translation when i type those things, that cause some “trouble”, but i didnt mean to cause any offence, trouble, or things like that. I didnt want to make your work look bad, i just tried to view some things from a realistic (perhaps too realistic) point of view. So if there are some points that may sound offensive sarcastic or things like that, blame it on my english, cos it wasnt meant that way.

I hope i was able to “straighten it all out”

#218

Yes, this straightens things out :thumbsup:
as i said, i thought i was just down to the choice of words. which it is.

No offence taken.

and please. continue to post.

#219

Hiya Dene,

Wow you and Jeff Dux had alot to write, This thread has to be the most reading i have done in a while. lol :slight_smile:
Glad you got it sorted, remember we are doing this for fun. Well until the guy’s in suits with big cheque books come along…haha no just kidding…:smiley:

Here are the next concepts…

#220

Excellent as allways mr Mark!!:thumbsup:

i have no crit’s. (for once!! haha!):scream: (stage 1 complete…haha)

yeh:D…big discussion…i like having big old techie talks.:buttrock: