Young Suki’s body…
5 Blades
cipherL
#122
Diego, its looking better, its closer to the concept… puff out the cheeks a bit,… great stuff…
littlebluerobots
#123
Deigo, its looking tight, well done…
Boone, I think we can have the story start with suki’s fight with Hanso, when she is young, then move forwards… its not a flashback per se…
Dennatos… show us somthing when you can ok…
Were still looking for modelers, Texture artists, and animators…
Cliff.
system
#124
i definitely disagree with you on the look of the character, i dont like the revised one at all. i believe the original post was a much better look for this character.
i have uploaded my edit of the first script. since it seems like you just reordered events in the second you can just apply my suggestions to the second draft.
my critique on the script is, very bulky in terms of alot of cutting and unecessary story elements, not really a good feel for dramatic suspense some historic elements are off like the fact that suki owns a horse. women would not be permitted to own a horse. even royalty, the horses belonged to the husbands. choreography is another key issue, i can see ur going for a ninja scroll esque action here with ninjas jumping through trees and whatnot, but if you would like to hear them i have alternative methods to the stereotype of ninjas portrayed as basically “flying thru” the treeline. and the choreography on the swordfights i would like to be involved with as well.
keep going
littlebluerobots
#125
Well, the major design ethic I have for the peice, is not a photorealistic animation, rather more like a hyper-real puppet show… so what were aiming for is not a realistic human, which we could be done, but does not really interest me… Im after a look that is like your watching a Kabuki play happening right infront of your eyes… with no pupeteers or strings or rods… so I think the more doll like the characters look, the better…
Deigo, it will look weird because you dont have any eyebrows or eyelashes… also just use white eyeballs for now, it often helps. Also set up a gi lighting system…
Cliff.
system
#126
uhmm, i wasn’t aware that kabuki was with puppets…i believe the word your looking for is bunraku, giant puppets that are worked by 3 people…
and if your looking for a doll like design, u def need to get some images of bunraku puppets.
cardinal rule, no matter what you do research is key.
littlebluerobots
#127
Ok, I should have said Bunraku, but Im looking for Kabuki design ethics, especially in the masks of all the characters… and also to have the models based around Kabuki Dolls, I posted some images of them earlier…
Cliff.
Rockmanex
#128
DiegoFloor: Its getting there…oh hi everyone by the way…just saw this and figured I’d throw in some advice…interesting project…I would say to fix her head by looking at more 3/4 references. At the moment its a bit flat on the sides and also has very odd wrinkling…If you have to use a skull mesh or something to help you out or try and eye it up (which is just as good) and make the back flow more accurately…thats why she seems very chupacabraish the main thing it to get the flow to work in persp and it seems that you spent most modeling time in the ortho views…good luck!
cipherL
#129
Thanx Rockman
Also, Id have a look at the Neck and Jaw. The neck is far too wide, and the jaw is not defined enough, also tweak the ears.
Boone
#131
Re: CipherL.
I’m open to suggestions regarding the forest and using branches. 
Suki is a very dangerous person. Nobody tells her how to live her life unless they have a death wish. Think of women such as Goldie or Radinov in Gunsmith Cats… :twisted: She has this “woman of the world” feel about her - its what seperates her younger self. The horse would suggest “audacity” in the minds of those around her… 
cipherL
#132
I think in certain areas of the script, realism has to take a backseat, It is an action adveture after all…
I think we should just see shadows moving through the upper trees, and maybey have a rope come down with the ninja as he lands, kinda like, he was using it in some way…
We cant get too historic and technical about things, aslong as we have a relativly rounded story I think we will be fine, as it not a historic or documetary…
DiegoFloor
#134
thanks for the tips Rockmanex 
the model is in a very early stage… but i thought it was getting too weird to continue lol thats why i posted. since ppl are saying thats the way… oki donki then! 
personally i prefer the other one, but sometimes its very hard to capture someone’s vision. but i trust their judgement
and thanks for the other crits as well, i’ll work on the chin, cheeks, and all the rest that was pointed
denntanos
#135
I will come up with the updates today
cant reach the files right know… Cause I will soon update my computer…
I have:::
An Intel Celeron a graphic card Gforce 4 with 64mb and 256RAM…Hard driver 80gb <<<----BAD
the new computer will be an athlon 64 3500+ , Nforce 4 . PCIe (recommended for max users) 1024RAM maybe even 2048RAM and
a harddriver with 200gb (think that would be enough?) <<<----GOOD (at least i think, hehe)
denntanos
#136
heres my first Update
I think I will use some type of texture to make the “things going around the handle”
like they do in reality.
Boone
#138
Re: GunslingerBlack.
MY GOD - SOMEONE HAS ACTUALLY RETURNED A RED-TEXT VERSION OF MY SCRIPT! :eek:
I gave up hope - I’m reading it now, even though its only for the first draft. Thanks! 
Boone
#139
Re: GunSlingerBlack.
Okay, I’ve read it and believe or not - It was exactly what I wanted.
I’m not all that sharp on History when it comes to Japan, so any advice is smashing. The more brutally honest - the better!
Could you look over the second draft for me? I made some major changes to it, but I didn’t have your first draft revision when I wrote it up. After reading you revision, I’m already considering a 3rd draft, but I would like your input on the 2nd.
Regarding Suki: Her “Spanish” sword has been ditched for a more Chinese one. Her sword skills was certainly never mean’t to be swanky like Zorro - “Brutal and Dangerous” is more the idea. Read the reply I gave CipherL as to what direction I’m trying to take with Suki.
Regarding Suki’s Horse: As she is taking the long way round, she needs to get about quick. As for not having a horse - it is taking a liberty with reality, but I really need to get across that Suki is not the typical Japanese woman. I see Suki as having a similar view on the world to Anakin in ROTS - “I will shape the universe in the way I want it to be - and woe to those who stand in my way”. Perhaps the Horse is something very special to her - and those who tell her she is not allowed it are her enemies? In her younger days, Suki is very much a traditional girl and is trusting of the “system” around her( the lifestyle and laws of the Japanese people are perfect etc ), but as she got older life became more “every one for themselves” and she in turn didn’t give a damn any longer - began to take what she wanted. She wanted a horse along the way… :arteest:
Actually, this is only my interpretation of 5 Blades - its not my “baby” so to speak. If the horse has to go - it will go!