Zborntoy test :)

#1

Hi all,

some days ago i found a cool new topic here in this board about a afx renderplugin from taron. to be honest
after seeing the excelent renders from taron himselve and this one postet on zbrushcentral (http://206.145.80.239/zbc/showthread.php?t=039119)
i thought i should give it a try.

pros like those guys can do super renders with every app, but what if a standard user like me a hobby artist trys this plugin ?

i will show u :slight_smile:


i have made a little gallery, some ordinary messiah renders (the ones with no special background pics) and in comparison the new renders
with zborntoy.

it was totally suprising for me how quick and fast i had really nice looking renders. translucency, lightning and shadow was so easy
to set up. just move the light and see the updated render in realtime. sometimes it reminds me to the active shader view of 3dsmax or
fprime render where u see the final output, but not with this quality and not with displacement and translucency included. some tell u
9 seconds for a frame, i dont know my rendertimes to be honest, i didnt stop it cause it was to fast to push the start and stop button
on my watch hehe.

i exported all files (depth, specularity, color,) maps out of zbrush like written in tarons tutorial on www.taronites.com and combined
them in afx and there u go. have a look

http://www.necs3dart.com/latestwork/latestwork3.htm

a little giveaway for all those of u who like to test it

http://www.necs3dart.com/latestwork/pics/newmeshtestfile.zip

#2

?.. what ever happend here …?

#3

YES! Hahaaaaah! Oh, hmm, I’m the first reply…that might end up beings somewhat disappointing for you, but nontheless! YES! BEAUTIFUL! :thumbsup: :applause: :bounce:

Thing is, this is the first post I see here after the release of our plug-in. I’m all proud. And the stuff looks very nice! Really like that alien, too! Hah…just cool!

Thank you very much for posting this and thanx for the link to your site. Great stuff! :thumbsup:

I’m really psyched you did that with ZbornToy right away!? Very cool. :bounce:

Let me know, if you need any help, although it really doesn’t look that way! I’ll also post more tutorials and videos asap! :slight_smile:

OH, coming soon… " ZbornToy - EXPLAINED "…hehe. But I better first finish it before saying much, but I’m already pretty proud of it. Not because of what I’m doing, but because what it can do and how it feels doing serious work with it!

OH, BUT…back to YOU!!! GREAT STUFF, KEEP IT COMING! And don’t worry if I’m the first to reply. If they would understand right away, what it is they are looking at, I’m sure there were some questions or feedback tickling to come out! :wip:

AND THANK YOU for the excellent advertising, hahaha…quite obviously, I couldn’t have done it any better… :banghead: …but it means a lot to me. Thank you VERY much! :love:

Taron

#4

By the way, does anyone know how to generate smooth normal maps out of Zbrush? Just curious…I figured by now, there must be a way. :shrug:
Until the ZbT i never needed that, but now that would be great.

#5

great stuff! but…
can ZbornToy use in combustion?

I want to try ZbornToy. but it always cracks when i use it in cb4.

does someone use ZbornToy in combustion without problem ?

#6

We’ve heard about some troubles with combustion, while a crash could be avoided, it would still have troubles with getting layers into the interface. We’re on it! :wip:

If you happen to have after effects around, you could already take it for a spin.

We’ll keep you updated!

In the meantime, I’ve started a series to explain the very basics of the ZbornToy with simple illustrations, all done with the plug-in as well (except the pixelation, of course).

ZbornToy_EXPLAINED_part1.mov

News on the combustion issue will come ASAP!

Taron

#7

It seems to load fine in DF…but I’m too stupid to figure out how to set it up correctly…anyone want to “share their flow” with me (that sounded strange…)?

#8

hi mocaw

i am not sure how the parameters will look like in DF but basically u only have to
use the zborntoy on the alpha dept file. in afx it works this way load the depth file
into a new composition and then use the plugin on that file. the first parameter u have
to put in is the depth factor (zbrush will show it within the alpha menu) and then u
should see it as 3d. further only load the rest of the maps (color specul …) into
the shading rollout and push around the influence buttons.

the only most important setting within afx is u have to change the 8 bit settings
of the project settings to 16 bit, only then the depth map will be displayed correctly
i am not sure if u have to do it in DF as well (if i find time i will try this plugin in DF
to find out)

happy testing

nec

#9

http://www.reybustos.com/tmp/example.mov
Here is an example movie of ZbornToy working Fusion 5.02 it also works in 5.1 .

The thing is you have to go into your Compositing settings and choose 32bit and not 16bit. I find to get nicer results this way.
http://206.145.80.239/zbc/showthread.php?t=39144
Here are two of my posts on ZbrushCentral

#10

hey super crossbones thanks a lot for ur reply :slight_smile:

just checked ur video nice mesh by the way

to bad i do not have lots of time testing the new plugin but so far i
totally love it super results within no time

c u nec

#11

i’d love to play with that depth map of the alien and see if I can’t do some funky stuff with it. How long per frame in ZbornToy did it take to render.

#12

sure crossbones

http://www.necs3dart.com/latestwork/tmp/alien.zip

here is the file rendering mmmm verry fast 10 seconds on my
2.1 ghz laptop

#13

.25 seconds on my p4 3.6

#14

That’s a really nice rendition of the alien.

#15

From my experience, Zborntoy works in DF 4 but not 5.

#16

yesterday i did the next step. i tried to output all those maps from messiah studio. saved the files as .rla depth, color, specul and so on and put the puzzle together in afx. i will show the
result later today and how u can export all of those maps. to be honest only the
depth map is a little bit tricky.

the only thing i saw was little bit of bad quality in my depth map which showed some
pixel artifacts in afx. dont know if its related to the exported displacement map out of zbrush
or due to render settings within messiah. but i keep u updated

nice testing

nec

#17

Nice work. I really should get my hands on this plugin, too. As soon as I have time next decade. :cry:

#18

different angel, and more sss

#19

and here with every map exportet out of messiah directly

#20

hi all

in case anyone is interested in a little tutorial how to export all the needed maps (depth, color, specul…) out of messiah here u go

first of all lets start with the depth map.

the setup is done verry easy. all u have to do is parent a null to the camera this is null position 0,0.

then move the null into z axis till meshend as u see in pic 2

there u get the max z-number 8,1431 which is needed in the buffer region for the output setting as shown in pic 3. u have to use file format RLA by the way.

all set up correctly turn of the lights, turn off aa and hit the render button and u got a “perfect” depth map. not 100% perfect cause its an inverted map. we will fix that in afx later

for the color, specularity and the rest of the maps do the following. u have to use the surface color buffer the reason is simple we need the the color and only the color without lights sss, specularity included

and to set up the shader its easy done, only input the different maps into the color slot of the shader. hit render then load the next map hit render again till u have all the maps for the afx project.

i hope thats all understandable in case not feel free to ask

happy testing