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#701

I totally agree with this. It’d be nice to have a sort of animators group, so everybody can help everybody. We could talk over MSN or something like that, would anyone want such a thing? I really like that idea :thumbsup:

What you can do until January is:
[ul]
[li]Hope you’ll get in
[/li][li]visit CG-talk
[/li][li]as Bullseye said, enter the 10sec club and show us the work
[/li][li]Do a lot of animation exercises.
[/li][li]Do not think you won’t have to practise, just because most of it will be covered in AM, practise is good, so spend the whole day practising, (you DO want to get a super job, right?
[/li][li]Ensharpen your techiques
[/li][li]absorb every little bit of information you cross on your path
[/li][li]study some demoreels, dinsney, warner or whatever animation u like, study live motion
[/li][/ul]

At least that’s what I’m gonna do :slight_smile: and I’m gonna buy stop staring :smiley:


#702

I Like the idea, my mail at msn is alexandrecollaco@hotmail.com so if someone want to add, we can exchange experience.


#703

Don’t know where I got this link from (maybe even from somewhere within this thread), but you should try it out if you’re new to animation.

http://www.awn.com/tooninstitute/lessonplan/lesson.htm

I’ve been reading and testing them the last week, and it’s amazing how much I’ve learned from so little things being said. Everytime I watch an animation now, I see all those things explained, and it’s a great feeling to notice a single frame and knowing why it’s actually added!

I’ve looked at some animation reels lately too, and when something looks strange, I can actually see why it does so, and what the animator should’ve done to get it right. And that from onely a couple of hours of reading/study!

  • Bentagon

#704

Bentagon, Thanks for the site, I already knew it, but I gave it another try, I looked into it in depth and the tutorials are quite amazing. It explains a lot of stuff in a really fast way and some nice tips sliped trough, for example, the neck is always in front of the body, not right above the shoulders. It seems kinda obvious, but I hadn’t really realized it, until I read it. Great site

alexandrecollac, Thanx, I’ll add you tommorow morning, gonna sleep now so no point of adding you now :smiley:

Anyone else wanna joing?
My email is, oshiroii@hotmail.com add me if you want :thumbsup:

-shiroii


#705

hey, msn is a great idea!

it’s obvious we’re all super excited about this, so it’ll be good to feed off of each other’s excitement…and to share tips :slight_smile:

anyway, mine’s phearielord77@hotmail.com

:bounce:


#706

dang, I have a mac so I can’t use msn…:banghead: but here is my yahoo address
oli_allstar@yahoo.com

Thanks again :bounce:


#707

Wow, January… I know what I want for Christmas this year. :wink: :wink: :wink:


#708

Hey all,

I don’t completely understand what’s going on, but count me in anyways! Hehehe… we’re all networking up to MSN to do a kind of animationmentor-before-opening-support-group thing? Sounds pretty cool… I have Instant Messenger, but I’ll set up MSN with something.

Ok, I set up MSN under clockwerkzstudio. :slight_smile:

cW


#709

Hey y’all,

I don’t have MSN, so I guess I won’t be joining into this new-burgeoning network… but I’ll be right here, fist pounding the air in excitement with the rest of everyone else. :slight_smile:

Just wanted to add another item to the “things to do until January” list:

  • Learn which button on your DVD remote is “frame advance,” and then watch all your Pixar, Dreamworks, Disney, Blue Sky, and all your other animation DVDs frame by frame. Pick a scene. Watch it slowly, over and over… meditate on it. Learn why one frame leads into the next. Look for the frames that seem “wrong” when paused, but really add to the energy of an action when played at proper speed.

And yes, for heavens’ sake:

  • ANIMATE!! Don’t just sit there reading, studying, learning… actually get out your mouse, your pencil, your armature, whatever, and DO IT! Filling your head with terms and theory is good and fine, but it won’t make you a better animator unless you apply it! (I’m guilty of this myself… so please forgive me if I’m trying to self-motivate a bit) Sit down and animate, and FEEL it.

:slight_smile:

Here’s hoping January comes along quickly, and we all find ourselves side-by-virtual-side in the AM.com classroom, eh?

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#710

I know what are u talking about, i study a lot reading, watching and i have lots of the animation conceps in my mind. But i have this real problem that i din´t start to animate. I think i need someone to say “Do a bouncing ball test now” or “Give an emotion to this flour sack” or make this guy lift that heavy thing" AAARRRGHH :argh::argh: help me …

clockwerkz - i think the idea is exactly this, create a suport group to motivate each other, we could think about exercises practice and then comment, we can ask Bobby, Shawn and Carlos for comments too :twisted: hehheh :deal: AM for free…:twisted:


#711

Amen to that. You’re absolutely right…we must practice what we can beforehand. I’m working on mechanics… I submitted an entry to 10secondclub in June, and it wasn’t too hot. I realized I had to work on my mechanics. So I’m doing this simple animation with packageman from rigging101. He’s sitting up on a box. For some reason, my site is not updating the page… as soon as I get it worked out, I’ll post the link.

Thanks for the tip on advance framing…cool idea!

cW

Hey alexandre… “Do a bouncing ball… work on ease in and ease out… do it now!” If no one will tell you do to it, I’ll do it. :wink:

Ok, I posted up my animation, if anyone wants to crit… it’s here: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=161751


#712

LMAO. I thought I was the only one who sat on here for hours reading stuff, or flicked through my Animator’s Survival Kit, only to realise several days later, that I hadn’t actually put pen to paper or mouse pointer to screen! I’m certainly not ready to submit anything in 3D to the 10 Second Club, but I found just listening to the sound files and coming up with ideas gave me heaps of inspiration to try something new. In fact, your mention of 10S.C. just now has motivated me to actually follow this one through and enter this time (will have to be in 2D).

I’m in on the MSN thingie too! mine is joblogz@hotmail.com

Thanks for the tips of what to do while we wait for January to roll around. Aja B: that’s a good idea for Christmas! Maybe we could all start a fund with our families- a bit like a wedding gift registry. “Help little Johnny to go to Animation School”. :slight_smile: Another thought that I forget every year when family ask me what I want for Christmas: There are heaps of books on Amazon that I’d love to add to my collection (The Illusion of Life is one of them. It’s so expensive here!). I keep meaning to make a wishlist on Amazon so that people can get me stuff from on there!


#713

WOW!

Just came back from siggraph , it was awesome this year.

Animation Mentor preview KICKED ASS! , more people gathered than I have seen elsewhere.
I cant wait for it to start january! , Like mooncalf said (was great to meet you too man :slight_smile: ) no need to wait idle , keep working on those animations , we have a animation session here , all of you should join.

PS: these guys can dance too! , wish I had pictures from the Blur party , it was such a blast :smiley:


#714

Animation is a language. One can study a language locked away all day via textbooks and such. But all they’d get is book knowledge. They’d still never grasp it. And if they heard the new language in use they couldn’t follow it . The best way to learn a language is to become immersed in the culture that uses that language everyday. Soon you stop thinking in terms of how the “words” compare to a language you understand and you start to just understand the new language natively. Then once you get to that point all the subtleties and nuances of the language in use can be understood. It’s the difference between saying (or understanding) “Hello, friend.” and “Yo, wuzzup, dog?”. Both mean the same thing, one version has flavor, nuance, culture, style. So what does this dribble mean?

The best way to learn animation, to understand it, is to do it. A lot. And then ask for the feedback from others to point out what you don’t see. And then animate more. And then, animate some more. And when you’ve done that, go ahead and try to animate some more. When we start learning animation we’re struggling to say “Hello, friend.” with our work. Most initial efforts end up saying something like “Hlloeeo furoondeend?”. But keep working it and get immersed in doing it long enough and the time comes when your animation work can say “Hello, friend.”. And then after even more doing and more doing and more doing, someday (if you’re blessed with talent) your animation will say “Yo, wuzzup dog?” and people smile because your work has that spark of life. The sooner you start, the better. Don Graham (old time Disney drawing teacher from the way back days) had a saying: “Every one of us has 100,000 bad drawings in us. The sooner we get those out of the way the better for everybody involved.” That’s just as true in animation. We have HUNDREDS, perhaps THOUSANDS of bad scenes in us. Don’t wait til January to get started. That’s silly. Get those nasty bad animation tests out of your system now, not while you’re paying a significant chunk of money to be told to do it. Don’t just throw money at these guys out of hero worship thinking their greatness will rub off on you. It won’t (even though these guys are all genuinely groovy cats who are worth the admiration. :slight_smile: ). They got their greatness from God’s hand and their own hard work. They animated. A ton. Ask them sometime about how many nights they stayed up til sunrise working their craft, even after they’d gotten professional gigs as animators during the day. Your greatness will come not from AM, but from God’s hand and your hard work. Don’t wait for AM to make you a great animator. It can’t. It can give you tools, it can give you experienced eyes looking at your work, it can give you help, but it can’t make you a good animator. That’s on your shoulders and the day to begin it has arrived, even if January is still 5 months off.

-k


#715

In Texas, they say “Howdy”. Get with the program, Lango!


#716

:bounce:

You know it dude…good times! It was cool to meet ya!


#717

And BREATHE!!! :smiley:

Well said Keith. Very well said indeed.


#718

Oooh I like that one! Thanks Keith!!

And I’ve updated the unofficial FAQ with the info from the newsletter etc. I haven’t marked which questions have been updated, but new people will probably read the whole thing anyway.

http://home.netspeed.com.au/mlanham/am_faq.html


#719

hey, im down for the whole networking thing

feel free to IM me on MSN

wilson_arts4614@yahoo.com

cant wait till January


#720

Thanks Keith. I know I needed that kick in the pants.

I want in on this AM network too. I’ll be in school in January, but who knows. I’m stoked about AM even if I don’t get in on the first batch of classes.

sormint@hotmail.com