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#641

Oh my god, I can’t believe this, I fall asleep for like 5 hours and you guys build up an entire new page! :smiley: I’ll never sleep again

Now for the excitment and energetic part

Bobby, YOU’VE MET MIYAZAKI!!!
W000000000000000t that’s so cool!!! I wish my name was Bobby and Beck and maybe the middle name could be something like “boom” :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
The chance is really small he’ll show up at Siggraph, right? :cry: I’m not going anywayz :stuck_out_tongue:

I think I might be going next year, but I gotta find some intresting person to go along with me :smiley: I have more than a year for that so :thumbsup:

I hope to hear everything about Siggraph when everyone gets back! :thumbsup:

#642

so… has anybody got a digicam and lots of webspace and bandwith??:smiley:
Wish I was going…
Will you also have a stand at the 3D festival next year? It’d be lots easier and cheaper for me (and oshiroii, for that matter) to get there instead of flying all the way to the US. You áre, after all, aiming for animators all around the world :wink:

greetz

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#643

what’s the 3d festival? Sorry I never heard about it, I’m fairly new to 3d so… please tell me.
I don’t know how expensive it would be to fly over to the US and get an hotel and got to siggraph, aaaand of course go visit LA, that’s why it’s so easy say that I’ll be going next year :stuck_out_tongue: I hope it’s not too expensive and I hope my vacation will be longer next year, 'cuase else I’ll have to go to school an go to siggraph. (I don’t think my school would mind if I would go to Siggraph to shake Bobby’s hand though:P)

Anyhow, it would be great if you’d be at 3d festival. I’m currently browsing there site, and Copenhagen is reasonable. I really really really really really really really hope you guys will be there and bobby, could you phone to miyazaki and ask if he’ll come too? pleaaaaaaaaaaaase :stuck_out_tongue: hahahahha :smiley:

#644

Those of you going to siggraph Pm me , lets arrange a animators get together! :smiley:

#645

OMG, it seems the 3d festival has already been there and will be back next year. But I love it, I’ll be there next year man!!! I love it. just check this out:

-The VFX of The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
-High Dynamic Range and Realistic Lighting with NV40 (3DF)
-Hardware Accelerated Production Rendering

W00t, by the time I would have absorbed all this I’d be in room 29 for more than 3 hours :buttrock:

-Can There Be Believable Behavior for Virtual Characters?
-New Techniques of Character Skinning and Rendering for High-end Realism

These were on the same time :banghead:

-Artificial Intelligence in Commercials – Building Crowds
-Character rigging & setup for hybrid animation (Workshop)

These were on the same time too! I want that thing from harry potter 2 :thumbsup:

-Creating Oceanic Environments
-Shrek Visual FX
-The VFX of Matrix Revolutions
-Japanese Animation at Production IG
-The Future of Realtime Rendering

The list goes on and on and on and on. I want to go there man!!! Can you get there by train of something? It’s so cool!

EDIT: I agree with Sheep, but only replace the Siggraph for 3d festival :bounce: :bounce:

#646

I hate to bring up this age topic again - sorry!:slight_smile:

The concept that you have to be 25 to be an animator - is just absurd.

I think age has nothing to do with starting a career in animation. I do agree, that it’s most likely that you’ll see young folks in these types of positions - but I have a feeling that it has to do with the crazy deadlines, sometimes stressful situations and long productions hours that accompany such jobs. People who are older and have famlies, don’t want to have to dedicate thier lives to work; their priorities have shifted elsewhere. Of course, this isn’t true for everyone - there are alot of very successful animators who have families and an career in animation - it all depends on everyone’s indivudual goals, needs and wants - and being able to have a balance that works.

From my experience in a production environment - it at times is very demanding, requires long hours and working weekends. You have to really love what you do. Sometimes you’re really dragged throught the ringer.

Your portfolio also stands in front of your age when you’re applying for a job. The hiring manager is going to want to see your work first - the first thing that pops into thier head isn’t “How old are they?” I think that the older you are, the better - you’ve had more life experience and most likely - more career experience to back you up (regardless if that experience was in the field you currenly seek). Showing leadership, good job performance and determination can be seen in any type of job that you do.

If you love animation, and you want to be an animator…you’ll get there. Have patience, enjoy the ride, learn along the way. If you want something bad enough - you’ll get it, confidence, skill and perserverance rises above age.

#647

I haven’t been following this age discussion too closely (shame on me for not staying current with this thread!!), but I have to say that when I did two years of ‘3D School’ I was really amazed that there were maybe 10 people (out of 60?) that were over 40! Not that 40 is that old but you know what I mean. I think only one of them dropped out. The hardest thing for them (generalised of course) was learning the software. They had lots of interest, enthusiasm and talent though. Some of them ended up being fantastic modellers and texturers.

As Jennifer said, age brings experience and some of the older students had been graphic designers and sign writers for years before trying 3D, and that really gave them an edge over a lot of us 18 to 21 year olds.

Plus it was just really nice to have a mix of ages in class, as it would in a production environment. It makes for a wider range of ideas etc.

:slight_smile:

EDIT:

Hooray for the newsletter! Keep up the great work Bobby and the crew!

#648

The age depends on what you wanna do. Somehow I get the feeling that people mean, pixar animator, ILM animator or studio blur animitor with the word animator. If you look at Pixar, check their website, they’re always looking for new people, but those people need at least 2 years of industry experience. You can be a fine animator, but if youv’e never worked outside school or on some good real project, you won’t be as good. I don’t have an animators job, but I think it brings a lot of other aspects with it besides just animating. The big companies want you to have those qualities as well, just how I think it’s al set up.

I don’t know if anyone thought, after reading my post, that you had to be 25 or 30. IMO it seemed reasonable to get a job around 25 - 30. I think that if you’ve finished school and start your first real job you’ll be around 25 or 23. You might even want to go to school again, to a higher level, never stop learning! The 25-30 thing is about the age you’ll have when you get your first real job after school. I think that the bigger companies won’t have to many 20’s people, since you need some industry experience. It is much calmer for yourself too, you’re more comfortable in the inustry and all. I don’t think I’d even want a job at pixar right after school, … I might consider it, if I was asked though :stuck_out_tongue:

just my 2 cents

-shiroii

p.s I’ve alwasy wanted to say the 2 cent thing :slight_smile: hahahah :smiley:

#649

Well,… I’m glad to hear that there doesn’t seem to be any age discrimination in the animation profession. It’s nice to know that so many people here feel that you can be a valuable contributor no matter what your age.

While I don’t consider myself over-the-hill at 38,… I was a bit concerned that the 3D industry was becoming more of a young persons game. Committing to school again, especially this school, has given me a lot to think about. After bouncing around the art game for the last 10 or so years,… I find myself feeling the need for more focus in my life career-wise. Not to mention finding something I really love, and want to do.

#650

Hi. After doing a rather drastic career change from the military, I’m another one who fits into the “older” category (28). I raised the same issue in AWN, and among other replies of a very similar vibe from people, I remember one guy in the industry who said that he’d prefer to employ someone a bit older, because they had “something to lose”. For example, a mortgage, family etc. Interesting thought- it’s looking purely from the “employer’s” point of view.

#651

To my peeps at Siggraph,

any word yet on a launch date?..or how much $ we’re lookin’ to spend here?

#652

Wow this age thing really opened up a floodgate here. That is or was really my only fear that I had, and it seems there are a couple who had that same fear. There have been some very reassuring posts here.

Mojo: I’m with you, dude…what is the word at Siggraph? Hopefully, we have some spies that will report ASAP what is going on. I, for one, am willing to pay for credible updates. My payments would be in beer, tho… hehehe. I know Agreenster is over there…maybe he can give us an update.

cW

#653

I’m sure he will :smiley:

#654

WOL, I´ll never get away from my computer in the weekend again, just 2 days and there are almost 3 new pages, it is been active here.

 Well nothing to say, just waiting some new info.
#655

alexandrecollac, you’re a lucky guy, I’ll go on a vacation next sunday and will be back saturday ev’ning (>_<) can’t even imagin’ how much I’ll miss, no wonder they say CG-artists don’t have a life … Else they’ll miss CG-talk :smiley:

#656

Yeah, cg artists don’t have a life…well, just wonder, here’s my situation:
I have been working on a project for more than a month now, and generally speaking, not exaggerating the fact though, i am getting off from work around 3 a.m. evey day, and weekends are of no exception. Apart from that, we don’t get paid for working-over-time. This project will probably last for another month before completion.

putting on this thread, if not too odd, just want to know bit more about my peers in other coutries, what is your working situation like…be it better or more miserable.
Ps. I am from Taiwan.

#657

vanlicht, Which county are you from then?

#658

I am from Taiwan.

#659

No news yet! :slight_smile: Hang in there guys!! Tomorrow at 3PM (LA time) they are going to make their announcements at the Computer Graphics World booth. I bumped into Bobby and Carlos and they were in the midst of finding a PA system and tightening up some last minute stuff.

I must also add that they were super nice and cool as what you’d expect! Thanks for the hook-up Bobby - you rock my world!

#660

thanks for the update Adam… how are you enjoying the conference (with the exception of the kickass experience of being able to chill with the worlds best)