WIP - Keira

#68

Ive only just begun to notice how awful those eyes look… Im not really sure whats wrong with them. They dont come up very well in this render so it may be best to look at the couple before this post - please advise!

Thanks

#69

Allready looking better. Still think her eyes are too small though - but it is coming on.

#70

Oky doky :slight_smile:

A picture says a thousand words, so prepare to read an essay (or two, technically). Comments please!!

(btw, there is actually quite a large difference between the models, although it may not all be visible from the front. I will try to post other angles soon.)

#71

and again… :smiley:

Note - the jaw is different again, please crit. Thanks

#72

Good, good. Just the jaw still seems too long. It typically looks like someone who’s lower teeth extends further out than the upper teeth. (Like she’s pushing out her jaw forward.)

Hey, if I didn’t believe in your work, I would have just let it go by, but I want to see this work completed and great!

Stay on it!

#73

Ok, done another update.

Lowered the eyes
Filled up the eyebrow area
Changed shape of forhead
Changed shape of bottom lip
Lowered entire forhead (it was too tall apparently)
Some other minor tweaks.

Please crit :slight_smile: Thanks

#74

Jaw now much better!

#75

The jaw is looking good…carry on mate.

#76

i like this “jaw” better… maybe it could be moved a LITTLE (VERY little) inwards… but i have noticed that kiera has that to her… that jaw… i have seen alot of movies with her and i always notice that her jaw has that “special” somthing to it… and in this image i thing you hit it (almost) spot on…

#77

Good Lord i need to stop working on this…

Ok, update. Eyes have had a huge makeover, although (eeek!) it may not appear THAT obvious. They now have proper “innie bits” instead of flaps of skin, and… well, just let me know what you think :slight_smile: I have also made the new eyes much wider. Unfortunately i suck at proper eyes. So er… i’ll have to learn. If you’ve been following this thread you’ll already know that :slight_smile:

lots of other changes made here too, so if ive gone too far with anything and need to take it back a little, please let me know.

Thanks

Ooh, edit: Sorry for the low quality render (1 minute - couldnt be bothered)! GRIN

#78

Two photomixes, just for the hell of it. One with keira’s eyes, and one with angelina jolie’s eyes. I tried angelina’s to check if different eyes still look ok. Big problem comes when i have to do this in 3d :frowning:

Anyway, no real artistic value here, just “doodling”.

#79

hey mate…u r getting close to finishing it…i hope u make the eyes as above.besta luck mate.

#80

Well, here is my first attempt at making eyes.

please crit :slight_smile:

#81

hey dude…good work…gr8 going…can you plz share some info on skin shader…is it SSS fast skin?

#82

SSS fast skin for both eyes and skin shader. Skin has no textures yet. If you dont know how to use it, i more than stronly recommend master zap’s globulus tutorial, found here:

http://www.lamrug.org/resources.html#sss
(see “skin tutorial” and “skin files”)

It explains how to set it up for any given model - gives you a great introduction to the shader.

#83

hi,

I think you go very long way to get the target. The eyes looks good but I cant tell who she is yet
.something is missing in the face notes
.i donÂ’t know to spot it because you really made a great job in the anatomy
.i think it falls in the perspective view of your viewport against the real camera position
it just miss the one cent to get the complete dollar
.its good
keep it up!

#84

Thanks samifox and jet-black. I changed the eye shader network - its a little more complicated now but i think its an improvement :slight_smile:

Ive also started the eyelashes. Samifox - do you think it looks more or less like keira knightley than it did before (on page 5). Do i need to go backwards a bit with the model?
For anybody else watching this thread, please let me know what you think is not quite “keira” about this model.

Thank you
Ben

#85

hi benvan,
J really love your skin shader. Im working on one myself and I just cant get it right. So if it`s not a problem could you send how did you set the sss up? I would really aprreciate it :slight_smile:
my e-mail: matti3@op.pl
As for the model it looks really good. Keep it up.
greets

#86

Matti3d- SSS is really not something you can send somebody, simply because it depends entirely on the size of the object in your scene. I would strongly recommend you take the tutorial i refered to above - if you are having trouble with sss then you wont be if you follow the tutorial. Make sure you read it all and DO it all! At the end of it, as ive said before, you will have an understanding of sss capable of producing decent results :slight_smile:

Here’s another angle - hopefully this will help show up problem areas (the eyes look a bit cross-eyed - they are pointing straight forwards but im not quite sure how they should be pointing… i know that in real life eyes dont look straight forwards very often though. Egh…)

#87

hi,

i think it will help you if you look more picture of this beautiful woman : http://www.keiraknightleypalace.com/photos.asp

she have facial expression in your references that leads you to make some wrong notes. I compare the original image with your last update. There are still some feature missing. There is fatty tissue above the eye which is very important. Also the cheek bones doesnÂ’t have the same curvature and mass. The nose of your model have to be less soft. In real she has wider bone. This is what I could see and maybe if you observe it the model will look more like her.

Good luck