ok cool, i thought u ment the addition of the cross cheapens the hole image. Cause I can see how a cross can be a very ācheapā way to add symbolism to a picture. 
so hereās some more variations
which one, if any, works the best?



ok cool, i thought u ment the addition of the cross cheapens the hole image. Cause I can see how a cross can be a very ācheapā way to add symbolism to a picture. 
so hereās some more variations
which one, if any, works the best?



Hi Captain, great pic. I think the cross on the right arm is the best in terms of composition.
Justy: thanx mate
Heres an alternative for the background, right now I donāt know if i like this as much but maybe with work it would be alright?
workin on another idea for a scene, like this one a bit more 
Iām gonna place the guy to the right obviously, things still need work, like the window and blood. I also need to make the body in the tub clearer, and make one arm hang over the side a bit. Im also going to have some jars with organs in them on the window sill
Done a quick composite with my scene so far, does it work? Iām still debating whether I should use this or the design seen in earlier posts.
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ps i also think it looks better with bordersā¦
it looks great , but the person inside the bath tub looks too small or maybe the bath tub is too big? i wonder what might had happend in that room , too scary i can look at it no more 
I think the thing that bothers me with that tub BG is that the perspective is off comparitivly but i LOVE the effect that it produces. None of the other BGs have been quite dramatic at the tub. :applause:
magnetos: haha thanx, yeah when i look at it the person in the bath looks tiny. But i did use references (this background is from the cell, i used it for reference and drew it from scratch). Clawfoot bathes are huge though, iāve got one that I can stretch my legs out in and Iām 6 foot 4. Maybe I should change it though?
Hana-chan: yeah the perspective is way off. I did an edit so you can compare to what it should probably look like. Tell me what you think works better, the effect from the distorted perspective or the realistic perspective? Thanx for your reply 
i also need to fix that bluring around the killer (casued by the lazyness from very quick compositing lol). Then Iāll go in and detail the edges of everything to add a little detail
Since you are going for a more serious look a realistic perspective would be the best choice at least in my opinion.
Also after you fix the little blur I think the killer is going to have a stronger and more definite presence in the room.
Personaly I think its a good mood/ Idea overall.
MagicRubber: thanx for your input! and i think youāre very right about the blur/presence thing
I 2 am finding the realistic perspective better, so i think this one it is!
Nothing pretty to add just a haiku to accompany the image:
I repent my sins,
My indulgence is my virtue,
I am ill at ease
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A gun AND a knife? Well at least heās thorough. I guess if youre going to be a sloppy murderer, you might as well diversify your tools of destruction eh?
Lol! I agree with Ognus ā the gun and knife at the ready seem too much. Usually a killer is either a gun OR a knife guy. The gun tucked into his pants while he slices with the knife (he likes to keep one hand free) is always an option. The knife OR the gun in one hand with the cross in the other seems like a good idea ā either he took it off the dead body or heās saying the Rosary after having commited murder? How about the gun in one hand and a gas can in the other so he can destroy the evidence? That would explain the kerchief over his face ā he canāt stand the fumes.
Sorry, Iāve been watching too much CSI, Law & Order, etc. :sad:
Its his first time⦠heās still in his larvae stage as a killer⦠in time, with practice his killings will come more easily, heāll stop carying two weapons because heās become comfortable with the otherā¦
This ended up looking pretty good. And Iām happy with how you handled the cross issue. It looks much better. Even though I like the atmosphere you got with your filter, there are sure to be detractors who will dismiss your work because of the filter.
Ognus: haha yeah he does a propper but amateur job
Ilikesoup: thats kinda y i gave him both, for something different. He has his own style and a gun and a knife works best for him. But your ideas with gun in the pants and cross in the other hand sound tempting⦠Youāve got some very good ideas
But im not sure if i want to change too much this late (i was hoping to finish it soon, but i might have a play around to see wat i can come up with)
āSorry, Iāve been watching too much CSI, Law & Order, etc.ā
How can you not, its on every channel every hour of the day lol
Lord Dubu: thanx, i know wat u mean about the filters. I wasnāt gonna use it on this image but the test I did on the killer looked awesome (i think anyway lol). People seem to think that by using filters, the artist is somehow cheating the viewer or that the artist has no skill and is hiding behind a mirage of filters. I personally do it because I like the final result and like you said, i feel it adds to this image. I just hope the 2d community wonāt crucify or disregard me for it 
just small changes, working on the āpresenceā of the killer in the scene. Some things here and there i dont like but here we goā¦
Been a while, havenāt done a great deal on this lately. Had a play with a black and white version, just messing around
I like the b/w one it has a scary 1960ās horror feel⦠maybe you could add those camera film lines to the colored version maybe it will look better :shrug:
Looks great the way its coming keep it up!!!
vivien_drums: yeah its got a bit of that feeling hey
I love those games
TwistedReality: haha yeah. theres a really old film I watched in art when I was at high school. It was an old horror film (around 1940-45 i think) and it was really disturbing. I canāt remember what its called or who it was by (i think it may have been russian or french or something). I was trying to find it for a 3d project Iām working on but havenāt had any luck yet. Maybe I need to go back to school lol.
I added the lines to the colour version to see what its likeā¦
Dude I love the lines it sort of helps balance the huge ball of light i like it very much now⦠I hope you do more things like this⦠its great :buttrock: 